How is it that Americans can't produce a competitive bath towel?

[Psychoblues]

I think they can and would be more than willing, given the opportunity, to do so. This applies to much more than bath towels.

As having been an elected politician for many years I had the distinct opportunity to listen to all sides of thousands of issues. Here's one that always broke my heart. It's our trade policy.

I don't for one second condemn any business decision to "outsource" in the interest of remaining competitive. But I have a huge problem with any out-sourcing entity that doesn't also reflect a reduction in retail pricing as a result of "outsourcing". To date, I haven't seen any reductions in pricing as a result of giving our jobs to others, ie. other countries. Americans can, do and will remain competitive. So what's the problem?

In meeting after meeting I am astonished when the only reasons presented for potential "outsourcing" is wages and benefit considerations. Over and over again these concerns are dispeled by responsible and credible sources and criterion but the decisions to "outsource" remain firm. They "outsource" and the prices they charge just don't reflect any significant change. Amazing. Eventually, even their more solid American competitors relinquish and also decide to "outsource", move their headquarters offshore or abide the "new" accounting principles as embraced by their more unAmerican competitors for purely "profit potential" reasoning. It doesn't mean a damn thing to regular Americans except a loss of jobs.

As a Democrat elected type I always have diligently fought this propensity. Admittedly, I've failed. Over and over again I just couldn't compile the resourses to give an honest fight against such a dishonest opponent. The enormous profits prevailed for the stockholders but mostly for the administrators. But, being a Democrat, I'm proud of what I did. We were warned of all this by GREAT AMERICANS such as Abraham Lincoln and Dwight D. Eisenhower and many others. We didn't really listen then and apparently we aren't listening now. What a regretful shame.

Psychoblues

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by Psychoblues
I think they can and would be more than willing, given the opportunity, to do so. This applies to much more than bath towels.

As having been an elected politician for many years I had the distinct opportunity to listen to all sides of thousands of issues. Here's one that always broke my heart. It's our trade policy.

I don't for one second condemn any business decision to "outsource" in the interest of remaining competitive. But I have a huge problem with any out-sourcing entity that doesn't also reflect a reduction in retail pricing as a result of "outsourcing". To date, I haven't seen any reductions in pricing as a result of giving our jobs to others, ie. other countries. Americans can, do and will remain competitive. So what's the problem?

In meeting after meeting I am astonished when the only reasons presented for potential "outsourcing" is wages and benefit considerations. Over and over again these concerns are dispeled by responsible and credible sources and criterion but the decisions to "outsource" remain firm. They "outsource" and the prices they charge just don't reflect any significant change. Amazing. Eventually, even their more solid American competitors relinquish and also decide to "outsource", move their headquarters offshore or abide the "new" accounting principles as embraced by their more unAmerican competitors for purely "profit potential" reasoning. It doesn't mean a damn thing to regular Americans except a loss of jobs.

As a Democrat elected type I always have diligently fought this propensity. Admittedly, I've failed. Over and over again I just couldn't compile the resourses to give an honest fight against such a dishonest opponent. The enormous profits prevailed for the stockholders but mostly for the administrators. But, being a Democrat, I'm proud of what I did. We were warned of all this by GREAT AMERICANS such as Abraham Lincoln and Dwight D. Eisenhower and many others. We didn't really listen then and apparently we aren't listening now. What a regretful shame.

Psychoblues

Because under NAFTA and GATT, both fully enabled under Goatboy Clinton, wage and labor standards are so low in the third world that manufactures will cheerfully set up operations where they aren't bothered by thos pesky wage and hour laws, OSHA regulations or the EPA. Were labor and environmental standards given the same protections as business standards are, the situation would be quite different.

 

[Psychoblues]

Those standards were certainly included in both Nafta and Gatt, Bullypulpit, but they are ignored by a profit oriented congress and now a very profit oriented pResident. Like OSHA and EPA, as I was very instrumental in bringing into law, the NAFTA and GATT acts are certainly flawed but in light of their international importance and flexibility they can be repaired. You can believe that we tried to repair the flaws before enactment but the Republicans insisted on only the flaws. I guess that's feathers in their hats, don't you think?

Psychoblues

 

[Annie]

posted by PsychobluesYou can believe that we tried to repair the flaws before enactment but the Republicans insisted on only the flaws. I guess that's feathers in their hats, don't you think?

Could you please source this please?

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by Kathianne
Could you please source this please?

Still waiting...

 

[Psychoblues]

I am the source and you'll get nothing more than that regardless your curiosities. From me, anyway. Read up on some legislative history, I can't and won't do that for you. Punk.

Psychoblues

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by Psychoblues
I am the source and you'll get nothing more than that regardless your curiosities. From me, anyway. Read up on some legislative history, I can't and won't do that for you. Punk.

Psychoblues

For some reason I don't consider you a reliable source. It's not my responsibility to look for non-existant legislative history. No one can prove a negative-that was your problem and you shouldn't be throwing out red herrings.

 

[Psychoblues]

I didn't present the negative, Bullypulpit did. Like most neocons, you get your facts a little twisted. You got something to say, say it straight out, OK?

Psychoblues

 

[jimnyc]

Originally posted by Psychoblues
I am the source and you'll get nothing more than that regardless your curiosities. From me, anyway. Read up on some legislative history, I can't and won't do that for you. Punk.

Psychoblues

I suggest you lose that fucking attitude with Kathianne. No need to call her a 'punk' for asking for a source. Your now on limited time here, keep up in your usual fashion and your sorry drunk ass will be banned.

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by Psychoblues
I didn't present the negative, Bullypulpit did. Like most neocons, you get your facts a little twisted. You got something to say, say it straight out, OK?

Psychoblues

Strait out: You have no frickin' justification for what you are posting as 'fact'. Your only source is yourself, which has no authority.

What I was and am referring to is your quote:

You can believe that we tried to repair the flaws before enactment but the Republicans insisted on only the flaws.

, not Bully's.

 

[OCA]

Psycho was never an elected official, probably not even a veteran. He's been asked time and time again to prove these two things which shouldn't be too difficult to prove and to date we have nothing.

I personally find it difficult that a Busch swilling, drunken socialist would be electable in the first place.

 

[Psychoblues]

You are correct, jimnyc. I had no right to refer to anyone and especially Kathianne as a "punk". I apologise and it won't happen again. USMB showed me plenty of respect when my brother passed away back in January. I'll never forget that.

As far as the overly curious are concerned by asking me personal or otherwise self identifying questions, fuck 'em. I don't know exactly who you are, or them, and I make my own judgements about how much credence I give your's or their statements. I, like all of you, reserve that freedom.

Psychoblues

 

[OCA]

Originally posted by Psychoblues
You are correct, jimnyc. I had no right to refer to anyone and especially Kathianne as a "punk". I apologise and it won't happen again. USMB showed me plenty of respect when my brother passed away back in January. I'll never forget that.

As far as the overly curious are concerned by asking me personal or otherwise self identifying questions, fuck 'em. I don't know exactly who you are, or them, and I make my own judgements about how much credence I give your's or their statements. I, like all of you, reserve that freedom.

Psychoblues

Well then the credence we give your claims is that they are simply bullshit, fair enough?

 

[MtnBiker]

Maybe with the excess moisture not being removed by his cheap towels, Psychoblues is developing mold.


I have no problem drying off every day.

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by MtnBiker
Maybe with the excess moisture not being removed by his cheap towels, Psychoblues is developing mold.


I have no problem drying off every day.

LOL :

 

[5stringJeff]

Psycho, I suggest going to Walmart. Everything is cheap there, including bath towels. Plus, you know you are supporting hard working Americans who work in Walmarts all over the US.

 

[dilloduck]

Originally posted by Psychoblues
I think they can and would be more than willing, given the opportunity, to do so. This applies to much more than bath towels.

As having been an elected politician for many years I had the distinct opportunity to listen to all sides of thousands of issues. Here's one that always broke my heart. It's our trade policy.

I don't for one second condemn any business decision to "outsource" in the interest of remaining competitive. But I have a huge problem with any out-sourcing entity that doesn't also reflect a reduction in retail pricing as a result of "outsourcing". To date, I haven't seen any reductions in pricing as a result of giving our jobs to others, ie. other countries. Americans can, do and will remain competitive. So what's the problem?

In meeting after meeting I am astonished when the only reasons presented for potential "outsourcing" is wages and benefit considerations. Over and over again these concerns are dispeled by responsible and credible sources and criterion but the decisions to "outsource" remain firm. They "outsource" and the prices they charge just don't reflect any significant change. Amazing. Eventually, even their more solid American competitors relinquish and also decide to "outsource", move their headquarters offshore or abide the "new" accounting principles as embraced by their more unAmerican competitors for purely "profit potential" reasoning. It doesn't mean a damn thing to regular Americans except a loss of jobs.

As a Democrat elected type I always have diligently fought this propensity. Admittedly, I've failed. Over and over again I just couldn't compile the resourses to give an honest fight against such a dishonest opponent. The enormous profits prevailed for the stockholders but mostly for the administrators. But, being a Democrat, I'm proud of what I did. We were warned of all this by GREAT AMERICANS such as Abraham Lincoln and Dwight D. Eisenhower and many others. We didn't really listen then and apparently we aren't listening now. What a regretful shame.

Psychoblues

Two things came to mind reading your post. One is that you also haven't seen an increase in the price of your bathtowels which could result with all the expensive restrictions placed on businesses operating in the United States. The other thing is that you seems to object to people making profits. Why would anyone even start a business unless they hoped to make money? If you are saying they make too much money, what would you propose as an acceptable profit margin?

 

[nycflasher]

What gets wetter and wetter the more it dries?

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by nycflasher
What gets wetter and wetter the more it dries?

A towel! What do I win?

 

[HGROKIT]

Originally posted by nycflasher
What gets wetter and wetter the more it dries?

A drunk.