How is Barak Obama "far left"?

[editec]

Obama's policies are anything but FAR left.

Those of you who imagine that this government (regardless of party) are leefties clearly understand nothing about leftest political thiking.

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama's policies are anything but FAR left.

Those of you who imagine that this government (regardless of party) are leefties clearly understand nothing about leftest political thiking.

That's right.....to leftists....everyone else is far-right.

 

[Bfgrn]

I wonder what makes you think he's all that smart.

He can't seem to put a speech together without a TelePrompTer.

He constantly assails our ears with Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh's.

He has to read his speeches rather then ad-lib them because the collective is fearful he'll ether say something revealing or something stupid.

Bill Clinton was smart. Obama's intelligence is marginal.

President Obama WRITES many of his speeches and has much more to do with authoring his words...that kind of shoots down your argument...

BTW, you cannot attribute words to Abraham Lincoln that he didn't say...

NOW that you know the truth, I'm sure you will delete your signature...IF you have integrity

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Alleged quotes from Abraham Lincoln about the poor, the weak, prosperity, workers, class hatred, and character.

The Truth:
These words are often attributed to Abraham Lincoln, but according to the book They Never Said it: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, & Misleading Attributions, they are not from Lincoln.

The quotes were published in 1942 by William J. H. Boetcker, a Presbyterian minister. He released a pamphlet titled Lincoln On Limitations, which did include a Lincoln quote, but also added 10 statements written by Boetcker himself.

Bits of Wisdom From Abraham Lincoln-Fiction!

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"The legitimate object of Government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done but cannot do at all, or cannot so well do, for themselves in their separate and individual capacities. But in all that people can individually do as well for themselves, Government ought not to interfere."
President Abraham Lincoln

Obama doesn't have time to write his own speeches because the prick is always giving them.

Some people can chew gum and walk at the same time...Hey, WTF was Bush doing while in office? The man said more truly ignorant things in his 8 years than any president in history ...should we blame Bush OR President David Frum...

"I always believed as a speechwriter that if you could persuade the president to commit himself to certain words, he would feel himself committed to the ideas that underlay those words. And the big shock to me has been that although the president said the words, he just did not absorb the ideas. And that is the root of, maybe, everything."
David Frum - Speechwriter for George W. Bush

BTW, are you going to continue using a phony Lincoln quote as your signature?

 

[mudwhistle]

President Obama WRITES many of his speeches and has much more to do with authoring his words...that kind of shoots down your argument...

BTW, you cannot attribute words to Abraham Lincoln that he didn't say...

NOW that you know the truth, I'm sure you will delete your signature...IF you have integrity

-------------------------------------------------------------
Alleged quotes from Abraham Lincoln about the poor, the weak, prosperity, workers, class hatred, and character.

The Truth:
These words are often attributed to Abraham Lincoln, but according to the book They Never Said it: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, & Misleading Attributions, they are not from Lincoln.

The quotes were published in 1942 by William J. H. Boetcker, a Presbyterian minister. He released a pamphlet titled Lincoln On Limitations, which did include a Lincoln quote, but also added 10 statements written by Boetcker himself.

Bits of Wisdom From Abraham Lincoln-Fiction!

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"The legitimate object of Government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done but cannot do at all, or cannot so well do, for themselves in their separate and individual capacities. But in all that people can individually do as well for themselves, Government ought not to interfere."
President Abraham Lincoln

Obama doesn't have time to write his own speeches because the prick is always giving them.

Some people can chew gum and walk at the same time...Hey, WTF was Bush doing while in office? The man said more truly ignorant things in his 8 years than any president in history ...should we blame Bush OR President David Frum...

"I always believed as a speechwriter that if you could persuade the president to commit himself to certain words, he would feel himself committed to the ideas that underlay those words. And the big shock to me has been that although the president said the words, he just did not absorb the ideas. And that is the root of, maybe, everything."
David Frum - Speechwriter for George W. Bush

BTW, are you going to continue using a phony Lincoln quote as your signature?

Gosh....you threw me there for a min.

I was expecting your quote to be about Obama. And seriously it fits him better then Bush.

Oft times everyone is scratching their heads when Obama gives a speech that everyone knows isn't his own thoughts.

It for sure isn't his own beliefs....because those beliefs would scare the Holy Shit out of most of America.

 

[Bfgrn]

Obama doesn't have time to write his own speeches because the prick is always giving them.

Some people can chew gum and walk at the same time...Hey, WTF was Bush doing while in office? The man said more truly ignorant things in his 8 years than any president in history ...should we blame Bush OR President David Frum...

"I always believed as a speechwriter that if you could persuade the president to commit himself to certain words, he would feel himself committed to the ideas that underlay those words. And the big shock to me has been that although the president said the words, he just did not absorb the ideas. And that is the root of, maybe, everything."
David Frum - Speechwriter for George W. Bush

BTW, are you going to continue using a phony Lincoln quote as your signature?

Gosh....you threw me there for a min.

I was expecting your quote to be about Obama. And seriously it fits him better then Bush.

Oft times everyone is scratching their heads when Obama gives a speech that everyone knows isn't his own thoughts.

It for sure isn't his own beliefs....because those beliefs would scare the Holy Shit out of most of America.

Gosh...you're attempting to critique presidential speeches and words whilst stating YOUR right wing dogma on every post, and then trying to legitimize your ignorance by falsely attributing those words to one of the great liberal thinkers...Abraham Lincoln...

IRONY...

"Obama has both a first-class intellect and a first-class temperament."
Charles Krauthammer

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I do not understand how Pravda can see this and you cannot.

America Moving from Kingdom of Cash to Socialism Slowly but Surely - Pravda.Ru

Socialism = far far far left.

Still fighting the cold war Ollie? Did you go to the movies to see Reefer Madness tonight?

BTW, Russia is one of the most conservative countries in the world...THAT would make Stalinists far RIGHT. It's your provincialism and western indoctrination that confuses you; and too many Joe McCarthy speeches...

Here's an excerpt from one of the greatest speeches given by a US President...it's about a radical idea...PEACE...

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Truly, as it was written long ago: "The wicked flee when no man pursueth." Yet it is sad to read these Soviet statements--to realize the extent of the gulf between us. But it is also a warning--a warning to the American people not to fall into the same trap as the Soviets, not to see only a distorted and desperate view of the other side, not to see conflict as inevitable, accommodation as impossible, and communication as nothing more than an exchange of threats.

No government or social system is so evil that its people must be considered as lacking in virtue. As Americans, we find communism profoundly repugnant as a negation of personal freedom and dignity. But we can still hail the Russian people for their many achievements--in science and space, in economic and industrial growth, in culture and in acts of courage.

Among the many traits the peoples of our two countries have in common, none is stronger than our mutual abhorrence of war. Almost unique among the major world powers, we have never been at war with each other. And no nation in the history of battle ever suffered more than the Soviet Union suffered in the course of the Second World War. At least 20 million lost their lives. Countless millions of homes and farms were burned or sacked. A third of the nation's territory, including nearly two thirds of its industrial base, was turned into a wasteland--a loss equivalent to the devastation of this country east of Chicago.

Today, should total war ever break out again--no matter how--our two countries would become the primary targets. It is an ironic but accurate fact that the two strongest powers are the two in the most danger of devastation. All we have built, all we have worked for, would be destroyed in the first 24 hours. And even in the cold war, which brings burdens and dangers to so many nations, including this Nation's closest allies--our two countries bear the heaviest burdens. For we are both devoting massive sums of money to weapons that could be better devoted to combating ignorance, poverty, and disease. We are both caught up in a vicious and dangerous cycle in which suspicion on one side breeds suspicion on the other, and new weapons beget counterweapons.

In short, both the United States and its allies, and the Soviet Union and its allies, have a mutually deep interest in a just and genuine peace and in halting the arms race. Agreements to this end are in the interests of the Soviet Union as well as ours--and even the most hostile nations can be relied upon to accept and keep those treaty obligations, and only those treaty obligations, which are in their own interest.

So, let us not be blind to our differences--but let us also direct attention to our common interests and to the means by which those differences can be resolved. And if we cannot end now our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity.

For, in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's future. And we are all mortal.

Commencement Address at American University

President John F. Kennedy
Washington, D.C.
June 10, 1963

JFK has no place in todays Al Franken's Democrat Party

 

[Jaded vet]

Obama is far left when compared to republicans who are to the righ of the John Birch society

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I knew the OP sounded familiar:

Chief Inspector Dreyfus: The beggar was the lookout man for the gang.
Inspector Clouseau: That is impossible.
Chief Inspector Dreyfus: Why?
Inspector Clouseau: Because he was blind. How can a blind man be a lookout?
Chief Inspector Dreyfus: How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!
Inspector Clouseau: Well, that is very simple. All he has to do is enlist.
Chief Inspector Dreyfus: Shut up!

 

[Wry Catcher]

Only those so far out on the right wing - proud members of the idiot fringe - characterized Obama as far left.

 

[alan1]

Only those so far out on the right wing - proud members of the idiot fringe - characterized Obama as far left.

Only those so far out on the left wing - proud members of the idiot fringe - characterized Obama as moderate.

Fixed it for you.

 

[mdn2000]

Rhetoric. Give me an example of what "far left" is, and show how Obama is that.

How about if you give me proof that he is a moderate democrat first, since that is the claim you made.

Proof?

This isn't a logic problem - there's no "proof" of anything involved. I can give evidence though.

We're still in Iraq.
Obama doesn't support same-sex marriage.
Obama doesn't support single-payer or nationalized healthcare.
Obama hasn't taken anyone's guns.

Also (I wouldn't consider these things to be "far left", but still the rhetoric comes)

Obama isn't trying to institute Sharia law.
Conservatives aren't being rounded up in FEMA camps.

There's plenty more evidence, if you'd like I could continue.

Now, do you have any evidence that he is "far left"?

Care for more grape kool aid.

If Obama aint anti gun why not explain Robert Bauer's attack threatening television and radio with losing their licsenses. Explain that or have you not heard of this.

 

[HUGGY]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

The neo cons make up crap all the time. They are not interested in facts. They are overt and closet racists that have voted for and listened to those who would use thier ignorance against thier own best interests. They are engaged in faith based politics with no clue what they are doing to themselves and our country with thier will to see Obama fail.

 

[mdn2000]

The liberals make up crap all the time. They are not interested in fact. They are overt and closet racists that have voted for and listended to those who would use their ignornance against their own interests. The are engaged in faith based politics with no clue what they are doing to themeselves and our country with their will to see the USA fail.

I hope obama fails, that mean Marxism fails, that means "hate america" fails, that means the beuacrats that are ruining my life will be out of a job and will begin to fail.

 

[Annie]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

The neo cons make up crap all the time. They are not interested in facts. They are overt and closet racists that have voted for and listened to those who would use thier ignorance against thier own best interests. They are engaged in faith based politics with no clue what they are doing to themselves and our country with thier will to see Obama fail.

NATIONAL JOURNAL: 2007 Vote Ratings (03/07/2008)

They left him out for most of 2008, as he wasn't there:

National Journal Magazine - Senate Ratings

 

[HUGGY]

The liberals make up crap all the time. They are not interested in fact. They are overt and closet racists that have voted for and listended to those who would use their ignornance against their own interests. The are engaged in faith based politics with no clue what they are doing to themeselves and our country with their will to see the USA fail.

I hope obama fails, that mean Marxism fails, that means "hate america" fails, that means the beuacrats that are ruining my life will be out of a job and will begin to fail.

You think being glib is what your job is because you align yourself with glib neo con media personalities. I am not a liberal. The destruction I am refering to is real like the collapse of the bridge in Minnisota that should have been maintained by the neo con governor. A real republican like Dwight Eisenhower built highways...he didn't allow them to fall down and kill people.

You are a moron that tries to reduce everything meaningful to an idiot sound bite...here is a bite for you


BITE ME!

 

[mdn2000]

The liberals make up crap all the time. They are not interested in fact. They are overt and closet racists that have voted for and listended to those who would use their ignornance against their own interests. The are engaged in faith based politics with no clue what they are doing to themeselves and our country with their will to see the USA fail.

I hope obama fails, that mean Marxism fails, that means "hate america" fails, that means the beuacrats that are ruining my life will be out of a job and will begin to fail.

You think being glib is what your job is because you align yourself with glib neo con media personalities. I am not a liberal. The destruction I am refering to is real like the collapse of the bridge in Minnisota that should have been maintained by the neo con governor. A real republican like Dwight Eisenhower built highways...he didn't allow them to fall down and kill people.

You are a moron that tries to reduce everything meaningful to an idiot sound bite...here is a bite for you


BITE ME!

Eisenhower was a lousy liar, Eisenhower stated Stimson revealed a "Top Secret" to Eisenhower that Eisenhower was not authorized with the "Need to Know". Eisenhower was a poor president that got us into Vietnam. Eisenhower gave us North and South Korea.

Shit you dumb asses elected a pro wrestler as governor, what did he do for that damned bridge, hell, if your so smart why did you not address the problem with the bridge.

Care to debate Eisenhower and his lies, I do, I will start by showing Eisenhower's two versions to one story.

Eisenhower, what a prick, all the revisionist love him though, the anti-american Noam Chomsky crowd cite Eisenhower all the time, that ought to tell you something.

Eisenhower, democrat today, republican tomorrow, thats a leader I can follow, hell we all have to change when the wind blows a different direction.

Thanks for bringing up Eisenhower as your hero, it really shows you to be igorant, you got to be an old man to admire Eisenhower.

Anyhow tell us about Eisenhower and Stimson than tell us how the Bay of Pigs was planned under the Eisenhower administration, hell, tell us the story of how Cuba fell ro the Maoist Marxist Communist under Eisenhower's watch than tell us about Laos and Vietnam. I cant wait.

 

[Polk]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

The neo cons make up crap all the time. They are not interested in facts. They are overt and closet racists that have voted for and listened to those who would use thier ignorance against thier own best interests. They are engaged in faith based politics with no clue what they are doing to themselves and our country with thier will to see Obama fail.

NATIONAL JOURNAL: 2007 Vote Ratings (03/07/2008)

They left him out for most of 2008, as he wasn't there:

National Journal Magazine - Senate Ratings

Pretty easy to look at lot more in one direction than you actually are when you miss most of the votes.

 

[HUGGY]

The liberals make up crap all the time. They are not interested in fact. They are overt and closet racists that have voted for and listended to those who would use their ignornance against their own interests. The are engaged in faith based politics with no clue what they are doing to themeselves and our country with their will to see the USA fail.

I hope obama fails, that mean Marxism fails, that means "hate america" fails, that means the beuacrats that are ruining my life will be out of a job and will begin to fail.

You think being glib is what your job is because you align yourself with glib neo con media personalities. I am not a liberal. The destruction I am refering to is real like the collapse of the bridge in Minnisota that should have been maintained by the neo con governor. A real republican like Dwight Eisenhower built highways...he didn't allow them to fall down and kill people.

You are a moron that tries to reduce everything meaningful to an idiot sound bite...here is a bite for you


BITE ME!

Eisenhower was a lousy liar, Eisenhower stated Stimson revealed a "Top Secret" to Eisenhower that Eisenhower was not authorized with the "Need to Know". Eisenhower was a poor president that got us into Vietnam. Eisenhower gave us North and South Korea.

Shit you dumb asses elected a pro wrestler as governor, what did he do for that damned bridge, hell, if your so smart why did you not address the problem with the bridge.

Care to debate Eisenhower and his lies, I do, I will start by showing Eisenhower's two versions to one story.

Eisenhower, what a prick, all the revisionist love him though, the anti-american Noam Chomsky crowd cite Eisenhower all the time, that ought to tell you something.

Eisenhower, democrat today, republican tomorrow, thats a leader I can follow, hell we all have to change when the wind blows a different direction.

Thanks for bringing up Eisenhower as your hero, it really shows you to be igorant, you got to be an old man to admire Eisenhower.

Anyhow tell us about Eisenhower and Stimson than tell us how the Bay of Pigs was planned under the Eisenhower administration, hell, tell us the story of how Cuba fell ro the Maoist Marxist Communist under Eisenhower's watch than tell us about Laos and Vietnam. I cant wait.

I don't live in Minnesota.

 

[Polk]

The liberals make up crap all the time. They are not interested in fact. They are overt and closet racists that have voted for and listended to those who would use their ignornance against their own interests. The are engaged in faith based politics with no clue what they are doing to themeselves and our country with their will to see the USA fail.

I hope obama fails, that mean Marxism fails, that means "hate america" fails, that means the beuacrats that are ruining my life will be out of a job and will begin to fail.

Yeah, it's the liberals that are racist...

 

[Polk]

And surely the GOP-backed teabaggers aren't racist...