How is Barak Obama "far left"?

[theDoctorisIn]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

 

[skookerasbil]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

This message is hidden because skookerasbil is on your ignore list.

Anyone else? Anyone who can write in complete sentences, not MS Paint drawings?

 

[alan1]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

The definition of "Moderate Democrat" is "Far left". To put that in context, the definition of "Moderate Republican" is "Left".

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

The definition of "Moderate Democrat" is "Far left". To put that in context, the definition of "Moderate Republican" is "Left".

Rhetoric. Give me an example of what "far left" is, and show how Obama is that.

 

[alan1]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

The definition of "Moderate Democrat" is "Far left". To put that in context, the definition of "Moderate Republican" is "Left".

Rhetoric. Give me an example of what "far left" is, and show how Obama is that.

How about if you give me proof that he is a moderate democrat first, since that is the claim you made.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The definition of "Moderate Democrat" is "Far left". To put that in context, the definition of "Moderate Republican" is "Left".

Rhetoric. Give me an example of what "far left" is, and show how Obama is that.

How about if you give me proof that he is a moderate democrat first, since that is the claim you made.

Proof?

This isn't a logic problem - there's no "proof" of anything involved. I can give evidence though.

We're still in Iraq.
Obama doesn't support same-sex marriage.
Obama doesn't support single-payer or nationalized healthcare.
Obama hasn't taken anyone's guns.

Also (I wouldn't consider these things to be "far left", but still the rhetoric comes)

Obama isn't trying to institute Sharia law.
Conservatives aren't being rounded up in FEMA camps.

There's plenty more evidence, if you'd like I could continue.

Now, do you have any evidence that he is "far left"?

 

[SFC Ollie]

I do not understand how Pravda can see this and you cannot.

America Moving from Kingdom of Cash to Socialism Slowly but Surely - Pravda.Ru

Socialism = far far far left.

 

[JimH52]

I think he is trying so hard to appear moderate that he is losing focus. He is allowing his desire for GOP acceptance to overshadow his policy. Rather than fight for what he believes in, he sits on the sidelines and appears to be taking a moderate stance.

I do think he is an extremely intelligent President who weighs his decisions well, perhaps even too well. It will come to the point when his supposed "moderate" stance will appear a weakness. Politics can be very cruel to the weak.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I do not understand how Pravda can see this and you cannot.

America Moving from Kingdom of Cash to Socialism Slowly but Surely - Pravda.Ru

Socialism = far far far left.

Did you read the article? Or did you just like the headline. There's nothing in that article that could be considered anything more than just the opinion of one man on the op-ed board of Pravda. There's no evidence of anything "far left", in fact the single "fact" in the entire article is that Obama chose not to develop the missle shield.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I think he is trying so hard to appear moderate that he is losing focus. He is allowing his desire for GOP acceptance to overshadow his policy. Rather than fight for what he believes in, he sits on the sidelines and appears to be taking a moderate stance.

I do think he is an extremely intelligent President who weighs his decisions well, perhaps even too well. It will come to the point when his supposed "moderate" stance will appear a weakness. Politics can be very cruel to the weak.

In politics, at least on a Presidential level, the only way to "appear" moderate is to be moderate. But I agree with you, and I agree that it might come back to bite him in the ass at some point - either from the "far left", or from the GOP.

 

[Modbert]

Asking for evidence in a situation where you're not going to get it.

Barack Obama has not been a Liberal since entering office.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Asking for evidence in a situation where you're not going to get it.

Barack Obama has not been a Liberal since entering office.

I know. But still, I have to try. Otherwise, how would this site eat up all of my free time?

I should be working right now. Election day is in a few days, and there's a lot of work for me to do, between then and now - but still I can't stop posting on this site, asking questions that I know I won't get answers for.

 

[Annie]

Asking for evidence in a situation where you're not going to get it.

Barack Obama has not been a Liberal since entering office.

which 'office' are you referring to? I think there is a communication problem here.

 

[alan1]

Rhetoric. Give me an example of what "far left" is, and show how Obama is that.

How about if you give me proof that he is a moderate democrat first, since that is the claim you made.

Proof?

This isn't a logic problem - there's no "proof" of anything involved. I can give evidence though.

We're still in Iraq.
Obama doesn't support same-sex marriage.
Obama doesn't support single-payer or nationalized healthcare.
Obama hasn't taken anyone's guns.

Also (I wouldn't consider these things to be "far left", but still the rhetoric comes)

Obama isn't trying to institute Sharia law.
Conservatives aren't being rounded up in FEMA camps.

There's plenty more evidence, if you'd like I could continue.

Now, do you have any evidence that he is "far left"?

So, according to your post, somebody that supports single-payer or nationalized health care would be far left.
Since that is your standard, here is your proof. Now shut up.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE]YouTube - Obama on single payer health insurance[/ame]

 

[Zoom-boing]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk]YouTube - SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS saying His Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance[/ame]

 

[theDoctorisIn]

How about if you give me proof that he is a moderate democrat first, since that is the claim you made.

Proof?

This isn't a logic problem - there's no "proof" of anything involved. I can give evidence though.

We're still in Iraq.
Obama doesn't support same-sex marriage.
Obama doesn't support single-payer or nationalized healthcare.
Obama hasn't taken anyone's guns.

Also (I wouldn't consider these things to be "far left", but still the rhetoric comes)

Obama isn't trying to institute Sharia law.
Conservatives aren't being rounded up in FEMA camps.

There's plenty more evidence, if you'd like I could continue.

Now, do you have any evidence that he is "far left"?

So, according to your post, somebody that supports single-payer or nationalized health care would be far left.
Since that is your standard, here is your proof. Now shut up.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE]YouTube - Obama on single payer health insurance[/ame]

No, supporting single-payr healthcare is not a "far left" litmus test. And posting a video of him on the campaign trail for senate, talking to the AFL-CIO isn't proof of his support any more than this video is proof of his non-support.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAPLb-HVcM&feature=related]YouTube - Barack Obama and single payer health care[/ame]

But all that doesn't matter - you should know well enough that it's not what a politician says - it's what they do. So please, feel free to share some "far left" things that Obama has DONE, not said 6 years ago to a crowd of union organizers.

 

[Modbert]

which 'office' are you referring to? I think there is a communication problem here.

Presidential obviously.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

YouTube - SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS saying His Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance

YouTube videos of quotes taken out of context mean nothing.

Tell me something that Obama has DONE that is far left.

 

[rdean]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

The definition of "Moderate Democrat" is "Far left". To put that in context, the definition of "Moderate Republican" is "Left".

Rhetoric. Give me an example of what "far left" is, and show how Obama is that.

Far left.

Obama wants to help middle class America.

Obama wants to rebuild America's infrastructure.

Oboma wants affordable health care for all Americans.

Obama honors the dead soldiers arriving at Dover.

Obama believes education helps America.

Obama believes in diplomacy over war.

All of these are "evidence" that Obama is far left.