How Health Reform Benefits Small Employers (Oops)

[rdean]

Shane focuses his critique of health-care reform on the impact of the small business tax credits—a key component of the law that took effect in 2010—and even implies that the effect has been negative. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, many insurers saw a dramatic increase in small group plan enrollments in 2010. America's largest health insurance company, UnitedHealth Group (UNH), enrolled 75,000 new small business employees; Coventry Health Care (CVH) added 115,000 enrollees; and Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas City attributes its 58 percent increase in small business coverage specifically to the tax credits, noting that 38 percent of the new business came from companies that had not previously offered insurance.

How Health Reform Benefits Small Employers - BusinessWeek

This report, released with Families USA, a non profit consumer health care advocate, determined that about 84% of small businesses across the nation would be eligible for the tax credit on 2010 returns. This is over 4 million companies and is seen as a great benefit overall. It’s clear that there will be some type of improvement for small businesses as they strive to offer affordable health insurance benefits to their employees.

Health Care Reform Helps Small Businesses

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Oops.

Since the most expensive form of health care is "Emergency Room Visits", I guess Republicans want to stick the middle class with the bill.

Since the number one cause of bankruptcies is "medical bills", I guess Republicans want Americans to go bankrupt.

Since no one has been arrested or sent to prison for not buying HC, I guess that means Republicans are now, really, really depressed. Depressed enough to get HC? No, because it's a "pre existing condition".

Hmmm, why don't Republican leaders drop their "Government Health Care"? Isn't that "socialism"?

 

[Old Rocks]

Ah, you mean to tell me that the Health Care Bill actually helps small businesses? That cannot be true, everybody knows that President Obama is the Anti-Christ and working to destroy America. Just ask Willow

 

[rdean]

Ah, you mean to tell me that the Health Care Bill actually helps small businesses? That cannot be true, everybody knows that President Obama is the Anti-Christ and working to destroy America. Just ask Willow

The Republican definition of "small business" is revenue of at least one billion dollars a year.

 

[Mad Scientist]

It obviously doesn't help big business otherwise they wouldn't have asked for and received ObamaCare waivers. Hmm, now why would they want that?

And you guys are dummies if you think the rich are gonna' pay for your ObamaCare. They'll just pass it on to the middleclass.

Like when California put an "Out of State Home Owners Tax" of $75 on my home there I just passed it on to the renter. See how that works?

Morons both of you.

 

[rdean]

It obviously doesn't help big business otherwise they wouldn't have asked for and received ObamaCare waivers. Hmm, now why would they want that?

And you guys are dummies if you think the rich are gonna' pay for your ObamaCare. They'll just pass it on to the middleclass.

Like when California put an "Out of State Home Owners Tax" of $75 on my home there I just passed it on to the renter. See how that works?

Morons both of you.

When people go to the emergency room the cost is passed on to the middle class at 10 times the cost or more.

What's your solution? "Die quickly"?

 

[RDD_1210]

It obviously doesn't help big business otherwise they wouldn't have asked for and received ObamaCare waivers. Hmm, now why would they want that?

And you guys are dummies if you think the rich are gonna' pay for your ObamaCare. They'll just pass it on to the middleclass.

Like when California put an "Out of State Home Owners Tax" of $75 on my home there I just passed it on to the renter. See how that works?

Morons both of you.

When people go to the emergency room the cost is passed on to the middle class at 10 times the cost or more.

What's your solution? "Die quickly"?

Good luck getting an answer out of any of the extreme right wing on this site for that one. Oddball just dodged that very question I asked him in another thread today.

 

[rdean]

It obviously doesn't help big business otherwise they wouldn't have asked for and received ObamaCare waivers. Hmm, now why would they want that?

And you guys are dummies if you think the rich are gonna' pay for your ObamaCare. They'll just pass it on to the middleclass.

Like when California put an "Out of State Home Owners Tax" of $75 on my home there I just passed it on to the renter. See how that works?

Morons both of you.

When people go to the emergency room the cost is passed on to the middle class at 10 times the cost or more.

What's your solution? "Die quickly"?

Good luck getting an answer out of any of the extreme right wing on this site for that one. Oddball just dodged that very question I asked him in another thread today.

Threads like this, they avoid like the plague.

 

[WillowTree]

and never an explanation as to why the wh keeps issuing waivers to their best buddies.. nope.. nope nope..





I smell a demonRat.

 

[Oddball]

Shane focuses his critique of health-care reform on the impact of the small business tax credits—a key component of the law that took effect in 2010—and even implies that the effect has been negative. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, many insurers saw a dramatic increase in small group plan enrollments in 2010. America's largest health insurance company, UnitedHealth Group (UNH), enrolled 75,000 new small business employees; Coventry Health Care (CVH) added 115,000 enrollees; and Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas City attributes its 58 percent increase in small business coverage specifically to the tax credits, noting that 38 percent of the new business came from companies that had not previously offered insurance.

How Health Reform Benefits Small Employers - BusinessWeek

This report, released with Families USA, a non profit consumer health care advocate, determined that about 84% of small businesses across the nation would be eligible for the tax credit on 2010 returns. This is over 4 million companies and is seen as a great benefit overall. It’s clear that there will be some type of improvement for small businesses as they strive to offer affordable health insurance benefits to their employees.

Health Care Reform Helps Small Businesses

Yeah, tax credit.....Read: welfare.

Nothing like gubmint breaking your leg, then handing you a crutch and telling you how "lucky" you are to have them there to save the day.

 

[Mad Scientist]

It obviously doesn't help big business otherwise they wouldn't have asked for and received ObamaCare waivers. Hmm, now why would they want that?

And you guys are dummies if you think the rich are gonna' pay for your ObamaCare. They'll just pass it on to the middleclass.

Like when California put an "Out of State Home Owners Tax" of $75 on my home there I just passed it on to the renter. See how that works?

Morons both of you.

When people go to the emergency room the cost is passed on to the middle class at 10 times the cost or more.

What's your solution? "Die quickly"?

Deny services to illegal aliens. Google "California Emergency Room Closure" and see how many get shuttered due to illegals using them as their primary care facility.

You won't do it though, learning isn't your strong suit.

 

[WillowTree]

Shane focuses his critique of health-care reform on the impact of the small business tax credits—a key component of the law that took effect in 2010—and even implies that the effect has been negative. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, many insurers saw a dramatic increase in small group plan enrollments in 2010. America's largest health insurance company, UnitedHealth Group (UNH), enrolled 75,000 new small business employees; Coventry Health Care (CVH) added 115,000 enrollees; and Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas City attributes its 58 percent increase in small business coverage specifically to the tax credits, noting that 38 percent of the new business came from companies that had not previously offered insurance.

How Health Reform Benefits Small Employers - BusinessWeek

This report, released with Families USA, a non profit consumer health care advocate, determined that about 84% of small businesses across the nation would be eligible for the tax credit on 2010 returns. This is over 4 million companies and is seen as a great benefit overall. It’s clear that there will be some type of improvement for small businesses as they strive to offer affordable health insurance benefits to their employees.

Health Care Reform Helps Small Businesses

Yeah, tax credit.....Read: welfare.

Nothing like gubmint breaking your leg, then handing you a crutch and telling you how "lucky" you are to have them there to save the day.

It won't let me rep you right now.

 

[Bern80]

If there is anything these favors to small business show us, it ought to be the truly nefarious way in which government's breed a dependent citizenry. It breads a society that wants more and more government favors so we get to the point where we actually the removal of beauracracy because we don't want our 'free shit' taken away.

 

[Old Rocks]

Free shit? Right now we pay twice as much as many other industrialized nations for substandard results. We are subsidizing some very rich CEOs in the health insurance companies.

Really, considering the results, we should go to a Canadian system.

 

[elvis]

Free shit? Right now we pay twice as much as many other industrialized nations for substandard results. We are subsidizing some very rich CEOs in the health insurance companies.

Really, considering the results, we should go to a Canadian system.

and pay 40 percent in taxes and wait days instead of hours for routine procedures.... no thanks.

 

[Old Rocks]

And yet their average life span has increased three years more than ours since adapting their system. And their infant and young child mortality is far less than ours.

 

[elvis]

And yet their average life span has increased three years more than ours since adapting their system. And their infant and young child mortality is far less than ours.

pro hoc ergo propter hoc

 

[Mini 14]

Why listen to this guy when you could just ask the small business owners directly?

This is a pretty big messageboard.

I'll bet there are dozens of SBOs here.

I'm one.

I cancelled all insurance for employees in 2009, and now offer allowances to those who provide their own care (I had to because the new COBRA regulations made it cost-prohibitive for me to continue to provide coverage, and then the premiums went through the roof, especially for family plans).

I have fewer than 50 employees, and less than 10Mil in annual gross revenues. By almost any realistic definition, I am the quintessential "small business."

 

[mammastevens]

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[rdean]

Why listen to this guy when you could just ask the small business owners directly?

This is a pretty big messageboard.

I'll bet there are dozens of SBOs here.

I'm one.

I cancelled all insurance for employees in 2009, and now offer allowances to those who provide their own care (I had to because the new COBRA regulations made it cost-prohibitive for me to continue to provide coverage, and then the premiums went through the roof, especially for family plans).

I have fewer than 50 employees, and less than 10Mil in annual gross revenues. By almost any realistic definition, I am the quintessential "small business."

The Republican leadership doesn't see you as a "small business". You have to have revenue between 500 million and a billion for the Republican leadership to see you as a "small business".

BP was willing to help thousands of "small businesses" along the gulf coast until the Republican leadership apologized. Now there's accusations of "stalling".

Look at it this way. If an entire political party was "on your side" and against the American people, what would you do? Republicans in the senate even blocked Obama getting subpoena power to go after BP.

 

[Bern80]

And yet their average life span has increased three years more than ours since adapting their system. And their infant and young child mortality is far less than ours.

Get this this through your skull dumb as rocks. Life expectency has ZERO to do with the quality of a nations health care system.