How do you stop illegal guns, stings and police work, who says? Chicago police...

[2aguy]

Since guns are sold illegally to felons....you know, the felon knows they can't buy, own or carry guns....background checks don't stop them from getting guns...not even universal background checks.

So how do you catch people selling illegal guns to criminal?......you find a snitch, and use a police sting.

Who says so? The Chicago police....

Chicago Police Know Where Gun Violence Is Coming From, But They Can’t Stop It

Illegal guns get into Chicago through lone dealers, not large trafficking organizations, and that makes any legislative action taken to stop the flow totally impractical, according to Chicago police.

Police researchers say that most illegal guns come from nearby states like Indiana and Iowa after being stolen or resold by their original owners, according to a Tuesday report from the Chicago Sun Times. In this way, the trafficking of firearms is different from the trafficking of illegal substances, which relies heavily on national and even international crime organizations. As a result, the arrest of individual gun dealers does virtually nothing to stop the flow of illegal firearms.

“You are a single salmon swimming upstream at Niagara Falls,” Chicago Police Department spokesman Anthony Guglielmi told the Sun Times. “If your policing strategy is to decrease the number of guns in your city, good luck, because there are too many guns out there. It’s better to go after the person with the gun.”

Police operations to take down these individual gun dealers usually take the form of sting operations and bribing street level offenders for information.

In one case, a police informant convinced a dealer, John Thomas, to broker a gun sale bigger than any he’d sought before. He sold seven guns, all of which were obtained illegally: four handguns, two semi-automatic rifles, and one shotgun. The buyer paid $7,200. “The most money I’ve seen or made,” Thomas said.

 

[cnm]

You get legislation effectively banning handguns upheld by the USSC. That's how you do it.

 

[JoeB131]

Since guns are sold illegally to felons....you know, the felon knows they can't buy, own or carry guns....background checks don't stop them from getting guns...not even universal background checks.

If no one is manufacturing them, they can't get them. This isn't complicated.

Look, I know the NRA Shills have been in full on panic mode since last week, but I think even regular gun owners are saying , "Enough" when concerts they like to go to are getting shot up.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Since guns are sold illegally to felons....you know, the felon knows they can't buy, own or carry guns....background checks don't stop them from getting guns...not even universal background checks.

If no one is manufacturing them, they can't get them. This isn't complicated.

Look, I know the NRA Shills have been in full on panic mode since last week, but I think even regular gun owners are saying , "Enough" when concerts they like to go to are getting shot up.

If you put every gun manufacturer in the world out of business then people will make their own guns
And then there is the pesky little fact that a well maintained firearm can remain operative for many decades

 

[JoeB131]

If you put every gun manufacturer in the world out of business then people will make their own guns

And then you arrest them when they do it. Put them into a cell with a large black man and a jar of vasoline. Problem solved.

 

[Skull Pilot]

If you put every gun manufacturer in the world out of business then people will make their own guns

And then you arrest them when they do it. Put them into a cell with a large black man and a jar of vasoline. Problem solved.

We have too many people in jail
'we lock up more people than anyone

Sound familiar?

 

[JoeB131]

We have too many people in jail
'we lock up more people than anyone

Sound familiar?

Yeah, but some people you need to make a fucking example out of.

 

[Skull Pilot]

We have too many people in jail
'we lock up more people than anyone

Sound familiar?

Yeah, but some people you need to make a fucking example out of.

Funny how when I call for strict mandatory sentencing for gun crimes you dismiss it.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

You get legislation effectively banning handguns upheld by the USSC. That's how you do it.

Unconstitutional.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Since guns are sold illegally to felons....you know, the felon knows they can't buy, own or carry guns....background checks don't stop them from getting guns...not even universal background checks.

If no one is manufacturing them, they can't get them. This isn't complicated.

Unconstitutional.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I think even regular gun owners are saying , "Enough" when concerts they like to go to are getting shot up.

Your evidence?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Since guns are sold illegally to felons....you know, the felon knows they can't buy, own or carry guns....background checks don't stop them from getting guns...not even universal background checks.

If no one is manufacturing them, they can't get them. This isn't complicated.

Look, I know the NRA Shills have been in full on panic mode since last week, but I think even regular gun owners are saying , "Enough" when concerts they like to go to are getting shot up.

So go tell Russia and China and other Socialist Countries to stop making them Joe, demand that they stop, for the good of humanity, Joe. Man up and be bold...

 

[peach174]

Since guns are sold illegally to felons....you know, the felon knows they can't buy, own or carry guns....background checks don't stop them from getting guns...not even universal background checks.

If no one is manufacturing them, they can't get them. This isn't complicated.

Look, I know the NRA Shills have been in full on panic mode since last week, but I think even regular gun owners are saying , "Enough" when concerts they like to go to are getting shot up.

There will always be black markets for guns, especially so, when anything is banned like manufacturing them.
Do you realize that 3d printers can make them?
Banning the manufacturing of guns will make it even worse.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Since guns are sold illegally to felons....you know, the felon knows they can't buy, own or carry guns....background checks don't stop them from getting guns...not even universal background checks.

If no one is manufacturing them, they can't get them. This isn't complicated.

Look, I know the NRA Shills have been in full on panic mode since last week, but I think even regular gun owners are saying , "Enough" when concerts they like to go to are getting shot up.

There will always be black markets for guns, especially so, when anything is banned like manufacturing them.
Do you realize that 3d printers can make them?
Banning the manufacturing of guns will make it even worse.

Attempting to ban the manufacture of firearms would cause those who would ban it to discover just how many firearms there really are in the United States.

 

[RealDave]

Since guns are sold illegally to felons....you know, the felon knows they can't buy, own or carry guns....background checks don't stop them from getting guns...not even universal background checks.

So how do you catch people selling illegal guns to criminal?......you find a snitch, and use a police sting.

Who says so? The Chicago police....

Chicago Police Know Where Gun Violence Is Coming From, But They Can’t Stop It

Illegal guns get into Chicago through lone dealers, not large trafficking organizations, and that makes any legislative action taken to stop the flow totally impractical, according to Chicago police.

Police researchers say that most illegal guns come from nearby states like Indiana and Iowa after being stolen or resold by their original owners, according to a Tuesday report from the Chicago Sun Times. In this way, the trafficking of firearms is different from the trafficking of illegal substances, which relies heavily on national and even international crime organizations. As a result, the arrest of individual gun dealers does virtually nothing to stop the flow of illegal firearms.

“You are a single salmon swimming upstream at Niagara Falls,” Chicago Police Department spokesman Anthony Guglielmi told the Sun Times. “If your policing strategy is to decrease the number of guns in your city, good luck, because there are too many guns out there. It’s better to go after the person with the gun.”

Police operations to take down these individual gun dealers usually take the form of sting operations and bribing street level offenders for information.

In one case, a police informant convinced a dealer, John Thomas, to broker a gun sale bigger than any he’d sought before. He sold seven guns, all of which were obtained illegally: four handguns, two semi-automatic rifles, and one shotgun. The buyer paid $7,200. “The most money I’ve seen or made,” Thomas said.

According to you, they all should be legal in which case the cops can't do shit unless they catch the culprit in the act of using a gun.

This is yet another example of your stupid posting.

 

[cnm]

Unconstitutional.

Not if the USSC says it's not.

 

[cnm]

Unconstitutional.

Not if the USSC says it's not.

 

[cnm]

Notice how arguments about gun control are not framed in a constitutional setting until practical remedies are floated, then it's the first refuge of scoundrels.

 

[cnm]

Attempting to ban the manufacture of firearms would cause those who would ban it to discover just how many firearms there really are in the United States.

Held by law abiding owners too by the look of it.

 

[Taz]

Since guns are sold illegally to felons....you know, the felon knows they can't buy, own or carry guns....background checks don't stop them from getting guns...not even universal background checks.

So how do you catch people selling illegal guns to criminal?......you find a snitch, and use a police sting.

Who says so? The Chicago police....

Chicago Police Know Where Gun Violence Is Coming From, But They Can’t Stop It

Illegal guns get into Chicago through lone dealers, not large trafficking organizations, and that makes any legislative action taken to stop the flow totally impractical, according to Chicago police.

Police researchers say that most illegal guns come from nearby states like Indiana and Iowa after being stolen or resold by their original owners, according to a Tuesday report from the Chicago Sun Times. In this way, the trafficking of firearms is different from the trafficking of illegal substances, which relies heavily on national and even international crime organizations. As a result, the arrest of individual gun dealers does virtually nothing to stop the flow of illegal firearms.

“You are a single salmon swimming upstream at Niagara Falls,” Chicago Police Department spokesman Anthony Guglielmi told the Sun Times. “If your policing strategy is to decrease the number of guns in your city, good luck, because there are too many guns out there. It’s better to go after the person with the gun.”

Police operations to take down these individual gun dealers usually take the form of sting operations and bribing street level offenders for information.

In one case, a police informant convinced a dealer, John Thomas, to broker a gun sale bigger than any he’d sought before. He sold seven guns, all of which were obtained illegally: four handguns, two semi-automatic rifles, and one shotgun. The buyer paid $7,200. “The most money I’ve seen or made,” Thomas said.

The problem is that those "illegal" guns were made by legal manufacturers, so the question is, how are those legal guns becoming illegal guns so easily and in such large quantities?