Discussion in 'History' started by mudwhistle, Jul 4, 2018.
No.....I reside in the US.
I'm from Montana.
This is the kind of right wing propaganda that I'm talking about.
Propaganda is propaganda, the purpose of its use is the distinguishing characteristic.
Bernays used it at the behest of our capitalist overlords.
This is the type of thing Marx warned about happening generally in a capitalist society. We overthrew a society ruled by heredity and divine right and replaced it with one ruled by economic rulers. A small step for humanity but by no means panacea.
As a liberal and a Marxist I have long been critical of Bernays and his techniques.
I am surprised that you would include Bernays in your little communist witch hunt given his contribution to facilitating the rise of an economic powerhouse that you were willing to put your life on the line for. Greatest country in the world, am I right?
You're showing your commie roots.
You have a problem with profit. You find it problematic.
Nevermind the fact that profit is the engine that drives our economy.
You think a strong economy is an evil thing.
The left has always walked a thin line when it came to communism. FDR had a soft spot for "Uncle" Joe Stalin and when democrats established HUAC they eventually had second thoughts about communism and blamed the whole unfortunate era of outing communists in congressional hearings on a single republican. Instead of "Trumanism" they called it McCarthyism. Even though draft dodger Bill Clinton caught the eye of the KGB while demonstrating against the U.S. as a student in England and was awarded a free KGB trip to Moscow the democrat party downplayed their socialist leanings behind smoke and mirrors. Hypocrite Barry Hussein claimed that corporations were the enemy while he was taking money from Wall Street banks. It wasn't until Sanders was picked as a possible presidential candidate that the democrat party's socialist/communist leanings started to emerge. Since President Trump was elected the democrat party has dropped the mask and revealed itself to be the party of anti-Americanism and hatred. The emergence of a vocal self described socialist who defeated a moderate democrat in the primary signals the democrat party's total shift to the left.
I would be more concerned about conservative fascists as they are everywhere. Republicans are the downfall of America.
And the truth is liberals/leftists, and Democrats have been the root of most of the evil in America.
I wonder if you even understand what fascism is, because it sure looks like Progressive/Democrat rule.
Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality
—J. W. Aldridge
Commies are always with people who are exactly alike.They're so fucking dumb the real owners laugh at them. Like cattle heading to the barn to give milk twice a day
Profit exists naturally in the form of value.
The problem isn't profit, the problem is how it is allocated.
And no, I don't believe in government redistribution and don't agree with the current crop of "democratic socialists". I think that they are as confused as you.
And I believe the economy exists to allocate resources in society. I don't believe it is functioning in an efficient manner, too many people left behind.
Obviously I don't believe a strong economy is an evil thing.
So many misconceptions.
In this thread I'm more interested in your misconceptions about propaganda. The capitalists are the ones that turned it into a source of profit and have perfected it to the point you can't even see how it influences you.
"The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas."
The German Ideology. Karl Marx 1845
Reagan would role over in his grave if he saw Trump praising Putin.
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