How do we know?

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    How do we know that Jesus was actually dead when he was removed from the cross and put in the tomb?

    Its much more logical of an explanation to say that the people who buried him mistakenly assumed he was dead, when he wasn't really. He was only on the cross for a few hours, then he was stabbed, and taken down. People have recovered from stab wounds before.
     
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    :wtf:

    It's Easter weekend...what the hey moma forget to get you a Easter basket or what? Then again maybe Jesus is like the "Energizer Bunny" He just keeps onna going! :bye1:
     
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    Well how about we do this, we crucify you, then bury you for three days and if you can get up after that, then maybe we will accept that your theory could be possible.

    Being as I doubt you actually want to test your theory, what does it matter?

    The eye witnesses say that Christ ascended to heaven afterwards. I think that would have been pretty difficult to fake if He hadnt actually risen from the dead. But let me ask you this, why do you think His disciples who had witnessed the Resurrection would have gone to their deaths telling people of the joyous news it was just some fraud?
     
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    He was put in a tomb. His body wasn't covered with dirt. And they took the people down from the crosses after only a few hours bc the Sabbath was approaching. It normally takes days to die from crucifiction.


    And a substatial portion of the population thinks they've been kidnapped by aliens. Must be true.

    Plenty of Budhists have died for their faith, this must mean Budhism is also the one true religion. So have the Jews, by your logic, this means Jesus didn't rise from the dead since the Jews don't believe he did, and they died for their beliefs. How can Jesus both have risen from the dead and not have risen from the dead?
     
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    to one spidey...... "You gotta shout-shout knock yourself out...you gotta yell-yell loud and swell...you gotta scream-scream loud and mean... put another dime in the record machine"!!!! :rotflmao:
     
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    I'll know I've found the one true religion when it doesn't claim to be the one true religion. That's the signifier.
     
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    So shoot ST, he's claiming such.
     
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    Seems like he's more interested in casting doubt upon the resurrection than being a proponent of anything. Or is he? I don't read all his posts.
     
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    Roman guards were very experienced at telling when people were dead. They routinely broke the legs of criminals to hasten their deaths on crosses. The guards came to Jesus, and saw that he was already dead, so they didn't need to break his legs. When they pierced his side, blood and water flowed out, indicating that the sac around the heart was punctured. It would have filled with fluid as he was slowly asphixiated.

    He was placed in a tomb, with hard-nosed Roman guards, men accustomed to death and war. But, when the women went to the tomb on Resurrection morning, the guards were missing. Roman guards could be put to death for deserting their posts. What could have made them so fearful?

    Are we to believe that a man beaten and bloodied, with a pierced heart, with no food or hydration for days in the tomb was strong enough to roll aside a huge stone and overcome more than one Roman guard?
     
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    Oh GOD!!!! Why do people want to :poke: or :flameth: or :chains: those of different beliefs? :rolleyes:
     

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