How do pirates take over such huge ships?

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    I've been up close to those container ships. How in the heck do a bunch of pirates in a motorized skiff pull up alongside of and stop a ginormous freighter doing 20 knots?

    Very confused. It seems as though the guys on the freighter would be laughing from 10 stories up, and it also seems the pirates would be easy targets for a couple plinkers on deck of the freighter.

    Am I missing something? (obviously).
     
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    The Merchant Marines have NO weapons. As to how they board I assume there is an external ladder to the ocean level. The Pirates have Ak-47's and RPG's. An RPG can take down a TANK I doubt it would have much trouble opening the hull of an unarmored ship.
     
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    Time to arm those ships - otherwise they are sitting ducks. Now I realize that Obama and Company would oppose arming these ship....well, for the same reason the libs opposed arming commercial airline pilots, and for the same reason they want to close Gitmo:

    "Terrorists have rights!!!!!! Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!


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    Did you read post #2?
     
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    Well Obama wouldn't have much to say about it, you see few ships are American Flagged at all. Costs to much for most companies to flag in the US.
     
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    the ships are privately owned. most don't want to arm their crews for various money related reasons and have chosen not to. piracy is not new; if they felt a compelling reason to arm their ships, they would.

    owners have rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Johnny Depp can do anything.
     
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    Most are boarded at night, so they don't often see them coming. To stand watch around the perimeter of that size boat would take a far larger crew than what they have. Once they are on board they are the only ones with guns, merchant marines don't carry guns. An earlier post is right, an RPG can tear a hole in one of these ships. They are generally single hulled and even with multiple bulkheads, are easily disabled. They're not a solid as they look.
    The U.S. Marine Corp came into being over just this very situation. One of their first actions "on the shores of Tripoli" was a reaction to pirating of this kind. The whole area needs to be occupied by someone. As long as there is no government it's just a free for all, like a kindergarten classroom with no teacher. It help Iran when they try and sneak missiles to the Hamas in Gaza, like they did recently, but got caught and bombed to hell by Israel in Sudan.
     
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    Yeah, they might have to pay the crews a living wage.

    But hey, don't worry about it.

    Americans will inevitably pay to protect those ships anyway.

    That's what Americans are good for.

    Paying to protect everybody's interests but their own.
     
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    It wasn't wages that ran the shipping industry out of the U.S. It was Valdez. Maritime law has never held any ship liable for anything more than the value of the vessel and it's cargo. This has been in place for hundreds of years. Valdez changed all that here in the U.S. It actually took an act of congress to override international maritime law and make Exxon liable for the cost of the spill. Once that happened the liability costs of operating a cargo shipping line in the U.S. became too high and they all moved to Monrovia, Panama, and such.
     

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