How can Venezuela be rescued?

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Should America rescue Venezuela on the condition that the Maduro regime step down and allow a new government to be formed?

More than 50 countries urged Venezuela on Thursday to receive aid due to the country’s food and medicine shortages.

Many Venezuelans under the socialist Maduro regime have reverted back to a bartering system to acquire food and medicine.

A June U.N. report said “Venezuelan security forces are suspected of killing hundreds,” yet the police and government were immune from the consequences.

“We are projecting a surge in inflation to 1,000,000 percent by end-2018 to signal that the situation in Venezuela is similar to that in Germany in 1923 or Zimbabwe in the late 2000’s,” said Alejandro Werner, the director of the IMF’s Western Hemisphere Department.

Conditions in the country have worsened, causing Venezuelans to flee to countries like Colombia, Brazil, Chile, and the United States. Colombia has particularly seen an influx of 250,000 Venezuelans since August, with 3,000 people still flowing into the country each day according to a Washington Post report.

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Inflation In Venezuela On Track To Reach 1 Million Percent In 2018

More Than 50 Countries Urge Venezuela To Get Aid Due To Food And Medicine Shortage

Many Venezuelans Forced To Use A Barter System As Inflation Rate Hits 40,000 Percent
 
Should America rescue Venezuela on the condition that the Maduro regime step down and allow a new government to be formed?

More than 50 countries urged Venezuela on Thursday to receive aid due to the country’s food and medicine shortages.

Many Venezuelans under the socialist Maduro regime have reverted back to a bartering system to acquire food and medicine.

A June U.N. report said “Venezuelan security forces are suspected of killing hundreds,” yet the police and government were immune from the consequences.

“We are projecting a surge in inflation to 1,000,000 percent by end-2018 to signal that the situation in Venezuela is similar to that in Germany in 1923 or Zimbabwe in the late 2000’s,” said Alejandro Werner, the director of the IMF’s Western Hemisphere Department.

Conditions in the country have worsened, causing Venezuelans to flee to countries like Colombia, Brazil, Chile, and the United States. Colombia has particularly seen an influx of 250,000 Venezuelans since August, with 3,000 people still flowing into the country each day according to a Washington Post report.

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Inflation In Venezuela On Track To Reach 1 Million Percent In 2018

More Than 50 Countries Urge Venezuela To Get Aid Due To Food And Medicine Shortage

Many Venezuelans Forced To Use A Barter System As Inflation Rate Hits 40,000 Percent
They can be rescued by the price of oil shooting back up to where it used to be. Trump’s helping with that.
 
Should America rescue Venezuela on the condition that the Maduro regime step down and allow a new government to be formed?

More than 50 countries urged Venezuela on Thursday to receive aid due to the country’s food and medicine shortages.

Many Venezuelans under the socialist Maduro regime have reverted back to a bartering system to acquire food and medicine.

A June U.N. report said “Venezuelan security forces are suspected of killing hundreds,” yet the police and government were immune from the consequences.

“We are projecting a surge in inflation to 1,000,000 percent by end-2018 to signal that the situation in Venezuela is similar to that in Germany in 1923 or Zimbabwe in the late 2000’s,” said Alejandro Werner, the director of the IMF’s Western Hemisphere Department.

Conditions in the country have worsened, causing Venezuelans to flee to countries like Colombia, Brazil, Chile, and the United States. Colombia has particularly seen an influx of 250,000 Venezuelans since August, with 3,000 people still flowing into the country each day according to a Washington Post report.

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Inflation In Venezuela On Track To Reach 1 Million Percent In 2018

More Than 50 Countries Urge Venezuela To Get Aid Due To Food And Medicine Shortage

Many Venezuelans Forced To Use A Barter System As Inflation Rate Hits 40,000 Percent
They can be rescued by the price of oil shooting back up to where it used to be. Trump’s helping with that.

The problem is that Maduro has caused their oil industry to decline.
Chavez kicked out the Oil companies that know how to extract the oil and refine it.
 
No! America should not rescue Venezuela nor any other country for that matter!
 
Should America rescue Venezuela on the condition that the Maduro regime step down and allow a new government to be formed?

More than 50 countries urged Venezuela on Thursday to receive aid due to the country’s food and medicine shortages.

Many Venezuelans under the socialist Maduro regime have reverted back to a bartering system to acquire food and medicine.

A June U.N. report said “Venezuelan security forces are suspected of killing hundreds,” yet the police and government were immune from the consequences.

“We are projecting a surge in inflation to 1,000,000 percent by end-2018 to signal that the situation in Venezuela is similar to that in Germany in 1923 or Zimbabwe in the late 2000’s,” said Alejandro Werner, the director of the IMF’s Western Hemisphere Department.

Conditions in the country have worsened, causing Venezuelans to flee to countries like Colombia, Brazil, Chile, and the United States. Colombia has particularly seen an influx of 250,000 Venezuelans since August, with 3,000 people still flowing into the country each day according to a Washington Post report.

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Inflation In Venezuela On Track To Reach 1 Million Percent In 2018

More Than 50 Countries Urge Venezuela To Get Aid Due To Food And Medicine Shortage

Many Venezuelans Forced To Use A Barter System As Inflation Rate Hits 40,000 Percent
They can be rescued by the price of oil shooting back up to where it used to be. Trump’s helping with that.

The problem is that Maduro has caused their oil industry to decline.
Chavez kicked out the Oil companies that know how to extract the oil and refine it.
The price of oil collapsed a few years back, and so did Venezuela. Maduro had nothing to do with oil’s price.
 
Should America rescue Venezuela on the condition that the Maduro regime step down and allow a new government to be formed?

More than 50 countries urged Venezuela on Thursday to receive aid due to the country’s food and medicine shortages.

Many Venezuelans under the socialist Maduro regime have reverted back to a bartering system to acquire food and medicine.

A June U.N. report said “Venezuelan security forces are suspected of killing hundreds,” yet the police and government were immune from the consequences.

“We are projecting a surge in inflation to 1,000,000 percent by end-2018 to signal that the situation in Venezuela is similar to that in Germany in 1923 or Zimbabwe in the late 2000’s,” said Alejandro Werner, the director of the IMF’s Western Hemisphere Department.

Conditions in the country have worsened, causing Venezuelans to flee to countries like Colombia, Brazil, Chile, and the United States. Colombia has particularly seen an influx of 250,000 Venezuelans since August, with 3,000 people still flowing into the country each day according to a Washington Post report.

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Inflation In Venezuela On Track To Reach 1 Million Percent In 2018

More Than 50 Countries Urge Venezuela To Get Aid Due To Food And Medicine Shortage

Many Venezuelans Forced To Use A Barter System As Inflation Rate Hits 40,000 Percent

I think what is happening in Venezuela is horrible.

Really think America invading it will make things better?
 
No. The Venezuelan people got them selves into their current mess because the Left was able to harass, protest, out-scream & demonize ANY AND ALL OPPOSITION until finally there was noone left to fight. Left wing Socialist radicals called the opposition "Bigots" and claimed only the Socialists "cared about poor children"....today, millions are starving in Socialist dominated Venezuela.

Hard working people on the Right (the ones who actually carried Venezuela) were too busy making a living to protest. While they toiled, the Left continued to spread propaganda and lies and FEW stood against it. The Right "hoped" good would prevail and was timid and passive.

That's when the left won and their Constitution fell. Too many people in Venezuela stood by quietly while the Left seized more and more power and control. The Socialist used propaganda to shame the Right wing into silence and the Right wing obeyed....quietly.

The longer the Right Wing opposition put off showing courage, the harder and harder it got until finally guns across the nation of Venezuela were seized in 2012 setting the stage for a Dictator to seize power.

They got the dictator they deserved. All that was required was for the opposition to remain silent.
They dug their own hole. They will have to man up., grow some balls and fight their way out of the mess THEY allowed.

Freedom is not FREE. Surprise!!

If we intervene now the Socialists will simply say the USA interfered with the "Great Progress" they were making...and Socialists in the USa will use that to their advantage here at home.
 
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No. The Venezuelan people got them selves into their current mess because the Left was able to harass, protest, out-scream & demonize ANY AND ALL OPPOSITION until finally there was noone left to fight. Left wing Socialist radicals called the opposition "Bigots" and claimed only the Socialists "cared about poor children"....today, millions are starving in Socialist dominated Venezuela.

That's when the left won and their Constitution fell. Too many people in Venezuela stood by quietly while the Left seized more and more power and control. The Socialist used propaganda to shame the Right wing into silence and the Right wing obeyed....quietly.

The longer the Right Wing opposition put off showing courage, the harder and harder it got until finally guns across the nation of Venezuela were seized in 2012 setting the stage for a Dictator to seize power.

They got the dictator they deserved. All that was required was for the opposition to remain silent.
They dug their own hole. They will have to man up., grow some balls and fight their way out of the mess THEY allowed.

Freedom is not FREE. Surprise!!

If we intervene now the Socialists will simply say the USA interfered with the "Great Progress" they were making...and Socialists in the USa will use that to their advantage here at home.
all through the third world as well
 
No. The Venezuelan people got them selves into their current mess because the Left was able to harass, protest, out-scream & demonize ANY AND ALL OPPOSITION until finally there was noone left to fight. Left wing Socialist radicals called the opposition "Bigots" and claimed only the Socialists "cared about poor children"....today, millions are starving in Socialist dominated Venezuela.

That's when the left won and their Constitution fell. Too many people in Venezuela stood by quietly while the Left seized more and more power and control. The Socialist used propaganda to shame the Right wing into silence and the Right wing obeyed....quietly.

The longer the Right Wing opposition put off showing courage, the harder and harder it got until finally guns across the nation of Venezuela were seized in 2012 setting the stage for a Dictator to seize power.

They got the dictator they deserved. All that was required was for the opposition to remain silent.
They dug their own hole. They will have to man up., grow some balls and fight their way out of the mess THEY allowed.

Freedom is not FREE. Surprise!!

If we intervene now the Socialists will simply say the USA interfered with the "Great Progress" they were making...and Socialists in the USa will use that to their advantage here at home.

The big socialist lie is that they will help the poor and make everyone equal. The truth is that Socialist are nothing but looters who enslave the middle class. Venezulea will need a revolution to get Moduro out of power.
 
Should America rescue Venezuela on the condition that the Maduro regime step down and allow a new government to be formed?

More than 50 countries urged Venezuela on Thursday to receive aid due to the country’s food and medicine shortages.

Many Venezuelans under the socialist Maduro regime have reverted back to a bartering system to acquire food and medicine.

A June U.N. report said “Venezuelan security forces are suspected of killing hundreds,” yet the police and government were immune from the consequences.

“We are projecting a surge in inflation to 1,000,000 percent by end-2018 to signal that the situation in Venezuela is similar to that in Germany in 1923 or Zimbabwe in the late 2000’s,” said Alejandro Werner, the director of the IMF’s Western Hemisphere Department.

Conditions in the country have worsened, causing Venezuelans to flee to countries like Colombia, Brazil, Chile, and the United States. Colombia has particularly seen an influx of 250,000 Venezuelans since August, with 3,000 people still flowing into the country each day according to a Washington Post report.

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Inflation In Venezuela On Track To Reach 1 Million Percent In 2018

More Than 50 Countries Urge Venezuela To Get Aid Due To Food And Medicine Shortage

Many Venezuelans Forced To Use A Barter System As Inflation Rate Hits 40,000 Percent
maybe a volcano can erupt and then the other countries can come in with humanitarian aide to bail their sorry asses out. Worked for Puerto Rico.....
 
all through the third world as well

Mexico is now headed that way. You're right. It's startling. People in modern societies have completely taken freedom for granted.
in their nice luxurious homes and apartments driving their shiny new cars, food always available to the point of mass obesity. They've forgotten (or never knew) that it wasn't long ago that getting a hot bath meant heating water over an open fire. People today are weak and ill prepared to fight for their freedom. Perfect plucking for evil men.

They've forgotten that freedom and comfort are not free and that evil men are ALWAYS looking to conquer the world at the cost of misery to millions.

And here we are in the USA allowing SOCIALISTS who have no problem bragging that their intent is to redistribute wealth and make many changes that go directly against the Constitution that made this nation great...a chance to move into our Congress and take position of authority across the nation. What kind of absolute imbeciles are we who realize this is wrong, yet aren't actively fighting it?

We see what happened in Venezuela when Socialists take over. Why are we casually looking the other way as the EXACT SAME movements are set in motion here in the USA?

Madness is seeing the same thing occurring....and expecting different results.
 
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Haven't American investors and corporations lost enough in Venezuela? Once they overthrow their current government maybe we can help, but we cannot get involved until then.

How Venezuela Ruined Its Oil Industry


Case study: the nationalization of the Venezuelan oil industry
08/07/2017

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Patrick Childress
Attorney
Sidley Austin LLP, Washington, DC

Venezuela is home to the largest proved oil reserves in the western hemisphere, but for a variety of reasons—lack of capital and technical know-how and an unstable government, to name a few—it has never harnessed the full potential of this valuable resource. In the early 1990s, the Venezuelan government hoped to accelerate development in the oil sector through the Apertura Petrolera, or "oil opening." Through this program, Venezuela invited and incentivized foreign investment to help it develop its vast petroleum resources.

The Apertura worked. Major international operators like ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil Corp., Chevron Corp., Total SA, Statoil ASA, and BP PLC brought new technology and expertise to bear, increasing production and reserves.

Soon, however, Hugo Chavez swept into power on a message of populism and resource nationalism. The new president and his government began passing measures that hurt international operators, including but not limited to the following:

• Increasing royalty rates to be paid to the state.

• Exacting an "extraction tax" on each barrel of crude produced.

• Raising the income tax rate for heavy crude projects.

In 2007, the Chavez government passed its most extreme measure: a nationalization program that would transfer ownership of international oil projects to "mixed companies," in which the Venezuelan state would hold a majority interest.

Chevron, Total, Statoil, and BP all complied with the government's demands and negotiated terms to cede ownership rights to the state. ConocoPhillips and ExxonMobil, however, refused. Instead, these two companies sued Venezuela's government for $30 billion and $15 billion, respectively.

The basis of these claims were bilateral investment treaties—international agreements between two countries that protect foreign investors and provide for dispute resolution before a panel of independent arbitrators.

In 2014, an international arbitration tribunal ordered Venezuela to pay ExxonMobil compensation of $1.6 billion—an amount that was later reduced. ConocoPhillips is still awaiting its award of damages, but the tribunal hearing its claim has already declared that the Venezuelan government breached its international obligations.

ConocoPhillips and ExxonMobil are not alone. To date, the Venezuelan government has faced at least 13 oil and gas-related international arbitration claims from foreign companies. While it is defending these costly claims, the government is suffering from flagging domestic production as the industry flounders under state control.
 
Haven't American investors and corporations lost enough in Venezuela? Once they overthrow their current government maybe we can help, but we cannot get involved until then.

The Apertura worked. Major international operators like ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil Corp., Chevron Corp., Total SA, Statoil ASA, and BP PLC brought new technology and expertise to bear, increasing production and reserves.

Soon, however, Hugo Chavez swept into power on a message of populism and resource nationalism. The new president and his government began passing measures that hurt international operators, including but not limited to the following:

• Increasing royalty rates to be paid to the state.

• Exacting an "extraction tax" on each barrel of crude produced.

• Raising the income tax rate for heavy crude projects..

On one hand you can blame greedy corporations for helping the Socialists in Venezuela.
They felt secure with their contracts in hand and all their smart lawyers.

What they didn't count on is that Socialists and Communists don't give a shit about your lawyers and your signed contracts.
When they've got what they want out of you.....they'll tell you to take a hike...keeping whatever you can't take as theirs.

The USA works under assumption that Law & Order rules. Socialists and Communists, not so much.
 
Should America rescue Venezuela on the condition that the Maduro regime step down and allow a new government to be formed?

More than 50 countries urged Venezuela on Thursday to receive aid due to the country’s food and medicine shortages.

Many Venezuelans under the socialist Maduro regime have reverted back to a bartering system to acquire food and medicine.

A June U.N. report said “Venezuelan security forces are suspected of killing hundreds,” yet the police and government were immune from the consequences.

“We are projecting a surge in inflation to 1,000,000 percent by end-2018 to signal that the situation in Venezuela is similar to that in Germany in 1923 or Zimbabwe in the late 2000’s,” said Alejandro Werner, the director of the IMF’s Western Hemisphere Department.

Conditions in the country have worsened, causing Venezuelans to flee to countries like Colombia, Brazil, Chile, and the United States. Colombia has particularly seen an influx of 250,000 Venezuelans since August, with 3,000 people still flowing into the country each day according to a Washington Post report.

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Inflation In Venezuela On Track To Reach 1 Million Percent In 2018

More Than 50 Countries Urge Venezuela To Get Aid Due To Food And Medicine Shortage

Many Venezuelans Forced To Use A Barter System As Inflation Rate Hits 40,000 Percent
They can be rescued by the price of oil shooting back up to where it used to be. Trump’s helping with that.

Oy vey that was an ignorant statement.
 

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