How Can Republicans Win Again?

[007]

Ta hell with the republicans WJ. What we really need to do is break up this dem, repub stranglehold on our nation and get a third party elected, like a libertarian, or a constitution party. I'm afraid the republican party is already FUBAR.

 

[KGB]

They have to stop emulating the Democrats.

 

[t_samford]

1. They can't. They are 90 percent white and minorities won't join. America is about to become minority white, so, bye-bye Republicans for good.

2. They can, if they reach out to minorities and support issues they want, like amnesty for illegals and affirmative action.

3. They can, if they reach out to whites more explicitly by opposing illegal aliens and affirmative action.

Your idea?

Duh!!! The white folks have steadily become the minority and we need to do something about it.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Republicans have to stop appealing to anti-intellectualism so blatantly. Its embarrassing.

ROFL... This is just delicious... Conservatives are anti-intellectual?


Which is to say that leftists apparently are the harbingers of intellect?

SO Shogun, a professed pedophile... a moron of such depth that no level of exposure to reasoned thought could ever hope to produce a cogent, lucid, well reasoned thought... THIS stands for that which is "Intellectual?"

Toro, why don't you give us an argument which provides a well reasoned, intellectually sound, logically valid basis for you thesis that 'Republicans are anti-intellectual?'

(WARNING: HOLDING ONE'S BREATH WHILE WAITING ON A LEFTIST TO SUPPORT THEIR ASSERTIONS WILL RESULT IN ONE'S DEATH)

Are you being deliberately anti-intellectual now or are you doing so in a sarcastic manner?

For, an intelligent person would realize that I never said that all conservatives weren't intellectuals, that there is a difference between "Republicans" and "conservatives," and that all Republicans are anti-intellectual.

But you sure are. You are a walking, talking, breathing, typing example of the anti-intellectualism that permeates through the GOP today. Its hilarious that you want proof of anti-intellectualism on one hand then say that leftists aren't "real" Americans on the other. HELLO! Is anybody in there?

So you can't actually comply with the open and honest request... YEeeaahh

Hmmm... Now could that be due to you not actually knowing what 'intellectual' means? 'Cause it looks a LOT like you're under the mistaken impression that you're an intellectual and conluding that someone found opposing you would then necessarily fall under the rubric "Anti-Intellctual."



Now I've stated several dozen times on this board what I believe an American to be... and I've done so several times either FOR YOU or on threads in which you were actively engaged... so it's not reasonable to conclude that you're ignorant of my position... beyond that my position on the issue hasn't changed in the slightest and there is certainly no evidence on the table whcih could potentially mislead some unsuspecting member to such a conclusion...

Yet you return time and again to project this erroneous notion that I consider anyone who disagrees with me to be un-American... So you're either a cognitive deficient or you're a liar...

Tell us Toro... which is it?

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

You are right. Stand upon the priciples on which this nation was founded.: Atheism, reason, and the desire to escape religious fundamentalism and it's use as a means by which to control the masses. The founding fathers were progressive deists, who would be considered atheists today.

ROFLMNAO... And THIS opinion is one wherein the deceiver has carried the day, within what stands for intellect within this member’s mind.

First, Deism is the diametric opposite of Atheism... Atheists 'believe' that there is absolutely NO GOD... They believe, that there is NO evidence of God, thus there can be no God... Atheist flat out REJECT the very POTENTIAL of a DEITY.

Second, The Founders of the United States were individuals, who had varying beliefs; just like individuals today... but they were on whole, DEVOUT CHRISTIANS, who believed that the power associated with government corrupts all things and religion was no exception; thus they recognized that religion must be distinct from government; meaning that they recognized that any religion which became associated in terms of doctrinal influence, meaning that where the church rules rose to the function of government, the natural result would be to stifle religious freedom, just as government naturally tends to stifle individual freedom, thus freedom on the whole; they believed that where religious freedom was maintained distinct from government, there was always hope that the people would find the courage to repel an abusive government, which could never take place where the church was set as government.

Of course we see that truth being born out today as The Church of Secular-Humanism (Atheism)rises to establish it’s DOCTRINAL LAW as STATE; which is of course that tired old saw… MARXISM. But I digress…

Thomas Jefferson was a CHRISTIAN... NOT a DEIST. Jefferson's supposed Deism is a myth created by the atheist left, which lies on little else beyond the taking of out of context quotes from assorted Jefferson correspondence... The most widely abused is of course the Danbury letter, where Jefferson is informing constituents that the Federal government can't influence the church, because of the 'wall' in the constitution which separates church from state... A letter which the left trots out to erroneously prove just the opposite... meaning that the left tries to project that Jefferson was telling the Church that they cannot influence the GOVERMENT due to this rhetorical wall. The second most egregiously abused correspondence is the Jefferson letter his nephew Peter Carr, where Uncle Tom encourages Peter to consider and study all religions... which is the extent of the letter that you'll find in Atheist propaganda... but Jefferson went on the explain that from such a full and comprehensive consideration, Carr's faith will be established on the bed rock of his full intellect; a path which Jefferson believed would bring him to the truth of Christ's good news. Jefferson abhorred organized religion, feeling that it stifled the intellect… and it is from this, that atheism has managed to set this ethereal myth.

Apart from Jefferson's correspondence, the Atheist propaganda machine loves to trot out Adams words in a treaty with the Barbary Coast wherein he states that the US was not founded upon any religion. More often than not, this flaccid little exercise comes to prove that the US is not a Christian nation and that Adams himself was a Deist; which is again the absolute pinnacle of ignorant absurdity. John Adams was a deeply devout Christian and the treaty speaks to the government of the US, not the people of the US and it speaks to specific religious Doctrine established at the head of law and decidedly NOT religious principle resting at the foundation of law; a simple point of distinction which the ideological left is simply incapable of recognizing; bringing me to your next point...

It is true that the founders of the US were men of substantial reason. And it is thus true that IF we were somehow able to transport the US Founder's to our present... they would no doubt look upon the whole of the ideological left as being comprised of little more than blind madness. And this on little more than the little leftist canards such as "You can't force Freedom on people" and so on... I imagine that their reaction to the election of a Marxist Muslim to the Presidency would be one of pure terror... horror and soul wrenching disappointment, which is to say, grief.

It is NOT TRUE that the founders sought escape religious fundamentalism... the assertion is quite absurd. Those that fled England to escape STATE Religion... meaning they sought the freedom to PRACTICE THEIR FUNDAMENTAL FAITH, which was devoutly CHRISTIAN and to not be restrained by long standing doctrine of the STATE CHURCH which they believed corrupted, stifled and otherwise prevented the believer from walking in the light of the Father.

You use the word “Progressive” in your description of the Founders and that is a good word to describe them. However, that word does not fit with the ideological left, as that ideology is utterly REGRESSIVE. The Founders were men who believed that the key to freedom was INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY… The ideological left stands wholly AGAINST the freedom of the individual, except where the respective freedom is founded in self destruction and debauchery.

The Ideological left demands three and only three freedoms:

• The freedom to be overt, unambiguous homosexuals
• The freedom to abuse illicit drugs
• The freedom to murder the unborn child

Freedoms wherein the left on the whole rejects ANY SENSE of INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY as being inherent in these freedoms; beyond that the ideological left has absolutely no kinship with the concept of INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY .

As such Socialism has created fallacious absurdities such as people should be FREE FROM WANT AND NEED… the intellectual basis of which must necessarily reject by default, ANY SENSE OF INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY, THUS CAN NEVER REALIZE ANYTHING RESEMBLING INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY… a notion the imminently reasonable Founder’s of the United States would instantly recognize as patently impossible and thoroughly bereft of reason; thus the ideology represented in left-think can only RETURN MEN TO THAT WHICH THE FOUNDERS ESCAPED: THE TYRANNY OF OPPRESSIVE GOVERNANCE!

HA! HA! I knew that would get your panties in wad. Man you're a freak.

Wow... That is so wierd... Toro and I were just talking about you...

Has anyone ever accused you of being anti-Intellectual?

 

[Toro]

So you can't actually comply with the open and honest request... YEeeaahh

Hmmm... Now could that be due to you not actually knowing what 'intellectual' means? 'Cause it looks a LOT like you're under the mistaken impression that you're an intellectual and conluding that someone found opposing you would then necessarily fall under the rubric "Anti-Intellctual."



Now I've stated several dozen times on this board what I believe an American to be... and I've done so several times either FOR YOU or on threads in which you were actively engaged... so it's not reasonable to conclude that you're ignorant of my position... beyond that my position on the issue hasn't changed in the slightest and there is certainly no evidence on the table whcih could potentially mislead some unsuspecting member to such a conclusion...

Yet you return time and again to project this erroneous notion that I consider anyone who disagrees with me to be un-American... So you're either a cognitive deficient or you're a liar...

Tell us Toro... which is it?

Your greatest skill seems to be building quote pyramids. Is that what they are showing on Sesame Street now?

Democracy is the cornerstone of being an American. Democracy is government by the people. Laws implemented through democracy germinate through the political will of the nation. The political will is made up of competing ideas debated and decided on by the people. To suppress or exclude the ideas of people because they do not fit a pre-conceived notion of nationalism, or worse, the people themselves is the antithesis of democracy. Since democracy is at the cornerstone of being an American, and that people who have ideas that contradict your pre-conceived notions of nationalism, it appears that you are not a "real" American because you do not believe in democracy.

 

[sparky]

perhaps if they cut off their tails at birth...?

 

[9 Volt]

Wow... That is so wierd... Toro and I were just talking about you...

Has anyone ever accused you of being anti-Intellectual?

Only you sweetheart. You're a smart man, I'll give you that, but obviously not smart enough to avoid being bound by emotion. My comment that the founding fathers were Atheists escaping religious fundamentalism was a deliberate twist of the truth. It was a statement made only to get those red, white and blue panties of yours in an uncomfortable wad. It worked. Comments like "ROFLMNAO" and "That's Precious" expose you as the emotional trainwreck that you are. You're good on the message boards, but I suspect socially inept and alienated by your peers, which probably also makes it difficult to advance professionally. A lesson in Pragmatism would do you well.

 

[t_samford]

Only you sweetheart. You're a smart man, I'll give you that, but obviously not smart enough to avoid being bound by emotion. My comment that the founding fathers were Atheists escaping religious fundamentalism was a deliberate twist of the truth. It was a statement made only to get those red, white and blue panties of yours in an uncomfortable wad. It worked. Comments like "ROFLMNAO" and "That's Precious" expose you as the emotional trainwreck that you are. You're good on the message boards, but I suspect socially inept and alienated by your peers, which probably also makes it difficult to advance professionally. A lesson in Pragmatism would do you well.

Damn!! 9 Volt got you!!!

 

[t_samford]

Only you sweetheart. You're a smart man, I'll give you that, but obviously not smart enough to avoid being bound by emotion. My comment that the founding fathers were Atheists escaping religious fundamentalism was a deliberate twist of the truth. It was a statement made only to get those red, white and blue panties of yours in an uncomfortable wad. It worked. Comments like "ROFLMNAO" and "That's Precious" expose you as the emotional trainwreck that you are. You're good on the message boards, but I suspect socially inept and alienated by your peers, which probably also makes it difficult to advance professionally. A lesson in Pragmatism would do you well.

Damn!! 9 Volt got you!!!http://www.usmessageboard.com/images/smilies/clap2.gif

 

[9 Volt]

Damn!! 9 Volt got you!!!

I think most posters here would agree. We know this guy all too well.

 

[Toro]

The Ideological left demands three and only three freedoms:

• The freedom to be overt, unambiguous homosexuals
• The freedom to abuse illicit drugs
• The freedom to murder the unborn child

My eyes usually glaze over when ExtremusInfinitus posts something, so I missed this the first time around.

But damn, this made me laugh out loud.

My new sig!

 

[9 Volt]

My eyes usually glaze over when ExtremusInfinitus posts something, so I missed this the first time around.

But damn, this made me laugh out loud.

My new sig!

I love Pubic Infinity. He makes me laush too.