How can libs/far left ridicule creationists

[LoneLaugher]

The reason that anyone can deny creationism is that they do not believe there is anything greater in the Universe then themselves. They are the be all of all things. The decider of what is right and what is wrong the creator of life, or at least the decider on what life lives.

Biden does what he does because he just does not care. He pretends to be a Catholic, supposedly, because of convenience, because it makes him feel good. He is not a Catholic. Unless one holds that belonging to a group does not mean that a person needs to believe what the groups SAYS they believe. To that end the RCC is nothing but money grabbing hypocrites that will be judged, in my opinion, far worse then abortionists like Biden and Pelosi ever will be judged. If the RCC had an ounce of integrity they would purge themselves of those who say they believe life begins at conception yet supports the killing of such life. I think if the RCC did they would grow, but they do not thus their numbers are falling. No one should wish to be associated with a group that will not uphold its own standards.

Back to the original question. The liberal, or atheists, have to deny a higher being something greater then themselves. If they did not then their support of "choice" would put them into the league of some of the most sinister people ever to walk the Earth. They are not like that so they have to invent excuses to have them believe in duality. So they say things like, you can't force your religion on me and they will say that life starts with the first breath. A duality of convenience. Of course those who believe in life starting at conception are really not a whole lot better if they say nothing. Kinda of like the Germans seeing the death camps and wring their hands saying that the Nazis should be doing that but not doing a damn thing about it. Kinda like when people openly held slaves. Do you think that those people believed that slavery was OK? If so what do you think would be the reaction of the slave owner if his daughter was abducted and sold into slavery? No they convinced themselves that the black man was inferior, cattle if you will, thus they were the slave master's property not a person. Duality for sure and until that thought was changed, that all men are indeed created equally, racism and slavery continued.

So be it with creationism. The liberal left and atheist do not have an explanation of how the complexity of life started here on Earth yet they reject even the idea that life may have been STARTED on Earth and not just a product of such random chance that if this were a Vegas casino no one would ever win with such odds. They deny the creation account, held by many religions, by taking the accounts with absolute literalism. Yet strangely their argument against almost always includes that creationist are wrong because they take the accounts literally. They point out the smallest of apparent error in a book that is thousands of years old as proof of it not being accurate. Yet they have no proof it is not other then claiming evolution proves the creation story incorrect. Which, if anyone is actually paying attention, evolution theory does not explain the origin of life.

So as one person posted they deny creationism with the ease of a closed mind.

Would you be so kind as to repost that with spaces between each sentence so I can rip it apart without having to do it myself.

What a load of shit.

 

[Freewill]

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Would you be so kind as to repost that with spaces between each sentence so I can rip it apart without having to do it myself.

What a load of shit.[/QUOTE]

No, totally off the cuff so the English may not be up to snuff but I do have a better idea.

Why don't you just post what you believe to be the origin of life and defend that with something other then your opinion. Instead of trying to do what liberals seem to think is intelligent response by attacking? Seems like a simple thing to do.

Or in a nutshell respond to these questions:

Do you believe that all people believe in a god/God?

What is your definition of a god/God?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The reason that anyone can deny creationism is that they do not believe there is anything greater in the Universe then themselves. They are the be all of all things. The decider of what is right and what is wrong the creator of life, or at least the decider on what life lives.

Wasn't it humans who decided there was a Creator?

Are you saying that it would impossible for a human society to decide, for example, that it was wrong to steal from others,

if they were incapable of believing that some supernatural being told them so?

Is your opinion of the human intellect so low that you believe we are not capable of functioning without a superhuman puppetmaster?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yet Joe Biden believes that life begins at conception...hmmmmmm

So? Can you not still be willing to let others have the choice of having an abortion? What's the problem?

Killing kids....not my thing...IF you believe life begins at conception (I do and think it's not even that close), then you believe they are killing people.......

Paul Ryan believes life begins at conception, BUT, if you believe his latest position,

he also believes that it's okay for states to decide to allow abortion, or, as you would call it, killing that life, so,

Ryan is either

a. Pro-choice

b. Lying about his true beliefs

Which is it?

 

[Harry Dresden]

What I find funny is that there are those out there who go out of their way to mock and ridicule Religion, Christianity and Christians, make fun and just downright be nasty. Saying things like, "How can you believe in some fairy tale in the sky?", you know what I'm talking about.

Then, they turn around and believe in the Paranormal, ghosts and aliens. They've never seen a ghost, never laid their eyes on a UFO. They take the word of some guy who had a dream about being abducted and said it actually happened. They take it on faith that these things happen.

It's funny as hell.

I think that most UFO stories are bullshit, too. Especially when people see things that directly match what Hollywood shows in Sci-Fi films.

But the notion of life on other planets is hardly incredible. There are billions of other stars, with trillions of planets around them. That life might have evolved on some of them isn't a far-fetched notion.

The notion that there is an eternal, omnipotent, omniscient being who is really concerned if you eat meat on Fridays during Lent or cares what church you go to or is really upset if you're masturbating, is just plain silly.

If such a being existed, he'd be above such things by his very definition. And the idea that of 7 billion humans, he'd decide he was going to talk to Ratzinger or Monson is just kind of dumb.

The notion that there is an eternal, omnipotent, omniscient being who is really concerned if you eat meat on Fridays during Lent or cares what church you go to or is really upset if you're masturbating, is just plain silly.


what if that story has just been twisted through the years by the various Churches for their own gain and in reality.....and we were "seeded" here by a incredibly advanced civilization....who every now and then visit to see how we are doing and maybe "tweak" us here and there......i know sounds just as incredible....

 

[koshergrl]

denial of valid facts....creationists

life at conception.....read atwoods book.....a handmaiden's tale.....

I've read it. It doesn't explain away creation.

Creationists don't deny *valid facts*. They just propose a theory for the creation of life that anti-Christians don't like.

 

[koshergrl]

So? Can you not still be willing to let others have the choice of having an abortion? What's the problem?

Killing kids....not my thing...IF you believe life begins at conception (I do and think it's not even that close), then you believe they are killing people.......

Paul Ryan believes life begins at conception, BUT, if you believe his latest position,

he also believes that it's okay for states to decide to allow abortion, or, as you would call it, killing that life, so,

Ryan is either

a. Pro-choice

b. Lying about his true beliefs

Which is it?

^^^^Logical fallacy.

Or complete crap?

Which is it?

(Both).

 

[Seawytch]

So? Can you not still be willing to let others have the choice of having an abortion? What's the problem?

Killing kids....not my thing...IF you believe life begins at conception (I do and think it's not even that close), then you believe they are killing people.......

Paul Ryan believes life begins at conception, BUT, if you believe his latest position,

he also believes that it's okay for states to decide to allow abortion, or, as you would call it, killing that life, so,

Ryan is either

a. Pro-choice

b. Lying about his true beliefs

Which is it?

The answer is that it is the Romney/Ryan ticket and the guy on top changes positions more than a porn star.

 

[Mac1958]

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As a pro choice agnostic, I often wonder how people who claim to be devout Christians can support abortion. Would Jesus hold a woman's legs open while the abortion doctor inserted the instrument that destroyed the fetus?

Meh, that's just me.

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[uscitizen]

When the govt starts allowing a child tax deduction at the beginning of pregnancy...

When the govt bans sex with a pregnant lady becuses of having sex in the presence of a minor...

When the govt bans drinking and smoking by pregnant women becuase the child will be drinking and smoking by proxy...

When insurance companys will pay a death benefit for a miscarried fetus...
When insurance companys pick up the child on the family policy at conception.

 

[Seawytch]

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As a pro choice agnostic, I often wonder how people who claim to be devout Christians can support abortion. Would Jesus hold a woman's legs open while the abortion doctor inserted the instrument that destroyed the fetus?

Meh, that's just me.

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Oh I don't know...the bible is pretty squishy on the whole infanticide thing. When Jesus was wandering around the Middle East, it was fairly common practice to leave children to die in the elements because they had some deformity or were born to the wrong parents, etc.

Exodus: If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life.

"Life for life" only if the woman dies, not if her "fruit departs".

Leviticus: And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.

Kids aren't worth a damn (or a shekle) until they're a month old.

Numbers: Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD.

Not considered worthy of being counted.

Christians will dismiss it all as "Old Testament stuff"...but they use the same "stuff" to justify their, very contradictory, views on the Death Penalty.

 

[Freewill]

The reason that anyone can deny creationism is that they do not believe there is anything greater in the Universe then themselves. They are the be all of all things. The decider of what is right and what is wrong the creator of life, or at least the decider on what life lives.

Wasn't it humans who decided there was a Creator?

Are you saying that it would impossible for a human society to decide, for example, that it was wrong to steal from others,

if they were incapable of believing that some supernatural being told them so?

Is your opinion of the human intellect so low that you believe we are not capable of functioning without a superhuman puppetmaster?

First question: Not if there is a Creator.

Second Question: I don't see where I made a comment on that subject. But what I will say is that the knowledge that stealing is wrong is built into humans unlike other animals. Now obviously there have been groups who made their living off of stealing, such as pirates. But even they had a code of conduct where it was wrong to steal off of each other. I am not sure what the last part of your question means.

Third. Where in the hell, or how in the hell did you get that from what I posted? Did you get the freewill part of my handle? And who in the hell are YOU that YOU think YOU can tell me it is wrong to steal? Up yours I am bigger, smarter and faster then YOU and I am going to take YOUR stuff. Society has no right to infringe on my ability to do so. The strongest survive so take a seat in the back of the bus. That bit of hyperbole aside, have you ever notice children when they "steal" something off of other children?

 

[Freewill]

When the govt starts allowing a child tax deduction at the beginning of pregnancy...

When the govt bans sex with a pregnant lady becuses of having sex in the presence of a minor...

When the govt bans drinking and smoking by pregnant women becuase the child will be drinking and smoking by proxy...

When insurance companys will pay a death benefit for a miscarried fetus...
When insurance companys pick up the child on the family policy at conception.

So it is government that decides your morality, gottja.

 

[Freewill]

What I find funny is that there are those out there who go out of their way to mock and ridicule Religion, Christianity and Christians, make fun and just downright be nasty. Saying things like, "How can you believe in some fairy tale in the sky?", you know what I'm talking about.

Then, they turn around and believe in the Paranormal, ghosts and aliens. They've never seen a ghost, never laid their eyes on a UFO. They take the word of some guy who had a dream about being abducted and said it actually happened. They take it on faith that these things happen.

It's funny as hell.

I think that most UFO stories are bullshit, too. Especially when people see things that directly match what Hollywood shows in Sci-Fi films.

But the notion of life on other planets is hardly incredible. There are billions of other stars, with trillions of planets around them. That life might have evolved on some of them isn't a far-fetched notion.

The notion that there is an eternal, omnipotent, omniscient being who is really concerned if you eat meat on Fridays during Lent or cares what church you go to or is really upset if you're masturbating, is just plain silly.

If such a being existed, he'd be above such things by his very definition. And the idea that of 7 billion humans, he'd decide he was going to talk to Ratzinger or Monson is just kind of dumb.

The notion that there is an eternal, omnipotent, omniscient being who is really concerned if you eat meat on Fridays during Lent or cares what church you go to or is really upset if you're masturbating, is just plain silly.


what if that story has just been twisted through the years by the various Churches for their own gain and in reality.....and we were "seeded" here by a incredibly advanced civilization....who every now and then visit to see how we are doing and maybe "tweak" us here and there......i know sounds just as incredible....

Maybe, He doesn't care. Maybe He left instructions on how to get along. Maybe He left instructions in what not to eat when it was unsafe. Maybe He gave us instructions in how to live together as a society. I see nothing in the Ten Commandments that an atheist should have a hard spot with. Sure they don't believe in a God but so what? I assume they don't believe in the Easter bunny either. It should make no difference to them if anyone else believes in the Easter bunny or a God. But somehow it does. For some reason the atheist isn't happy just not believing they want us all not to believe or more to the point, believe as they believe. It is not the other way around as the atheist would try and make us believe. In my opinion the atheist wants validation of their beliefs and that only comes from everyone believing as they do.

 

[Harry Dresden]

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As a pro choice agnostic, I often wonder how people who claim to be devout Christians can support abortion. Would Jesus hold a woman's legs open while the abortion doctor inserted the instrument that destroyed the fetus?

Meh, that's just me.

.

Jesus wasnt as Liberal as some people seem to think,one poster here in another thread said he was a "flaming" Liberal.......i would think he would frown on Abortion....and that alone would get many Woman in his face.....to a point where he would be labeled by many a Woman..... a right winger....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I think that most UFO stories are bullshit, too. Especially when people see things that directly match what Hollywood shows in Sci-Fi films.

But the notion of life on other planets is hardly incredible. There are billions of other stars, with trillions of planets around them. That life might have evolved on some of them isn't a far-fetched notion.

The notion that there is an eternal, omnipotent, omniscient being who is really concerned if you eat meat on Fridays during Lent or cares what church you go to or is really upset if you're masturbating, is just plain silly.

If such a being existed, he'd be above such things by his very definition. And the idea that of 7 billion humans, he'd decide he was going to talk to Ratzinger or Monson is just kind of dumb.

The notion that there is an eternal, omnipotent, omniscient being who is really concerned if you eat meat on Fridays during Lent or cares what church you go to or is really upset if you're masturbating, is just plain silly.


what if that story has just been twisted through the years by the various Churches for their own gain and in reality.....and we were "seeded" here by a incredibly advanced civilization....who every now and then visit to see how we are doing and maybe "tweak" us here and there......i know sounds just as incredible....

Maybe, He doesn't care. Maybe He left instructions on how to get along. Maybe He left instructions in what not to eat when it was unsafe. Maybe He gave us instructions in how to live together as a society. I see nothing in the Ten Commandments that an atheist should have a hard spot with. Sure they don't believe in a God but so what? I assume they don't believe in the Easter bunny either. It should make no difference to them if anyone else believes in the Easter bunny or a God. But somehow it does. For some reason the atheist isn't happy just not believing they want us all not to believe or more to the point, believe as they believe. It is not the other way around as the atheist would try and make us believe. In my opinion the atheist wants validation of their beliefs and that only comes from everyone believing as they do.

Maybe, He doesn't care.

who is HE?.....God?....

 

[Mr. Shaman]

How can libs/far left ridicule creationists

Seriously?????​

October 12, 2012

Math-Challenged Jesus-Freaks​

"Rep. Paul Broun, R-Ga., called evolution “lies from the pit of hell” in a speech last month and argued that the Earth is 9,000 years old. Scientists have determined the Earth’s age is 4.5 billion years, based on evidence from meteorites and molecular decay rates. How do biblical literalists come up with their estimates?

Using Greek history, The Bible provides plenty of internal chronological information. Adam lived 930 years, and his son Seth 912 years. "

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[ginscpy]

Flat Earth Society doesnt believe life begins at conception - uses euphmisms lie "personhood".

Sounds like The Final Solution.