Clinton How can Hillary lose?

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    If she loses Ohio and Nevada, it could be determined by Florida, where Trump now leads Hillary by 4 points. Alarmingly, Trump is leading Hillary in some swing states.

    Poll Date Sample MoE Trump (R) Clinton (D) Spread
    RCP Average 8/19 - 9/12 -- -- 45.1 44.4 Trump +0.7
    CNN/ORC 9/7 - 9/12 788 LV 3.5 50 46 Trump +4
    JMC Analytics* 9/7 - 9/8 781 LV 3.5 46 42 Trump +4
    CBS News/YouGov* 9/7 - 9/9 1193 LV 3.5 42 44 Clinton +2
    Quinnipiac 8/29 - 9/7 761 LV 3.6 47 47 Tie
    PPP (D) 9/4 - 9/6 744 LV 3.6 46 47 Clinton +1
    Mason-Dixon* 8/22 - 8/24 625 LV 4.0 42 44 Clinton +2
    Florida Atlantic University* 8/19 - 8/22 1200 LV 2.7 43 41 Trump +2
     
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    it could also have to do with the way the State has been governed over the years,there aint enough racist out here to sway an election.....
     
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    she got one darkie vote

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    October is coming.

    Do you really want some to spoil your surprise?
     
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    I have altered my prediction. I think Ohio will be red.

    North Carolina - Red
    New Hampshire - Red
    Georgia - Red
    Utah - Red
    Arizona - Red
    Ohio - Red

    Nevada - Blue
    Colorado - Blue
    New Mexico - Blue
    Virginia - Blue
    Pennsylvania - Blue
    Michigan - Blue
    Wisconsin - Blue
    Florida - Blue
    Iowa - Blue
     
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    I predict Hillary will win 310-228.
     
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    Which ones did I guess correctly?

    North Carolina - Red - Right
    New Hampshire - Don't know yet
    Georgia - Red - Right
    Utah - Red - Right
    Arizona - Red - Don't know yet
    Ohio - Red - Right

    Nevada - Blue - Right
    Colorado - Blue - Right
    New Mexico - Blue - Right
    Virginia - Blue - Right
    Pennsylvania - Blue - Don't know yet
    Michigan - Blue - Don't know yet
    Wisconsin - Blue - Very Wrong
    Florida - Blue - Wrong
    Iowa - Blue - Wrong
     
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    I would view the establishment as being the party apparatus. There are people operating the Republican Party that have been deeply entrenched for decades. If I listed their names nobody would know who they were. Being a delegate at the national convention is no small feat. You have to be financed or self financed to attend the convention. You have to be well known at the state level of the party. That takes decades of being well known at your local party level. These are the people that write the official party platform. They mandate what republican politicians pretend to care about. Breaking that establishment apart is entirely possible but would make the party apparatus dysfunctional. The party would be ran by new people that have no idea what to do and will receive no help from the 20+ year veterans of the party that they just kicked to the curb. It would be like a lottery winner purchasing Facebook, firing the entire staff and hiring his buddies to run Facebook. It would be an absolute disaster. These establishment members have seen many political fads come and go. They have seen many popular politicians come and go. Their motivation is to help get Republicans elected. They will bend to the whims of the general population.

    Some people start naming politician's names when they refer to the establishment. They start referring to politicians that have been in office for a long time. They start referring to politicians that have risen to key leadership positions. They call that the establishment. That's silly because that isn't established. Those politicians come and go. How is that considered an establishment? An establishment is something that is established and difficult to topple.

    Since I lack common sense. Treat me like a child and tell me what looney tunes mean when they say, "establishment".
     
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