How Can Dems Confuse Immigrants with Illegals ?

[LogikAndReazon]

In that pretend world democrats inhabit there is no difference....................lol

 

[Vidi]

In that pretend world democrats inhabit there is no difference....................lol

Sorry but if you believe that, the pretend world is yours.

That's not to say the Dems aren't on the wrong side of illegal immigration. They totally are.

 

[BuddyColt]

In that pretend world democrats inhabit there is no difference....................lol

I'm not a Democrat, but you have your story bass ackward.

To begin with, people in the United States are NOT illegals. This is the United States of America and we presume every person to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by their peers. The lynch mob mentality of the National Socialists don't have much consideration for that fact, but if YOU were being judged on that standard, you would have a different tune.

Secondly, entering and being in the United States without papers is a civil offense, NOT a crime.

Next, under Reagan and Bush the foreigners were given amnesties. George W. Bush advocated a Guest Worker program. For the record, Barack Obama holds the record for deporting more undocumented foreigners than any U.S. president in history.

George W. Bush's Attorney General denied to undocumented foreigners a taxpayer funded attorney, ruling that deportation proceedings (based upon Title 8 USC 1325) were civil NOT criminal and Sixth Amendment protections did not apply in civil proceedings.

It was Eric Holder, Barack Obama's Attorney General that has taken the position that the undocumented foreigners are criminals.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that's the facts.

 

[Unkotare]

Here we go again...

This is where BloodyDolt (the disappearing tough-guy) goes on and on about calling an illegal alien an illegal alien and indulges his foolish lefty fantasy of open borders. Then the little nutjob runs around calling anyone who actually recognizes the right of the US to have borders and exercise its sovereignty, "Nazis." Yes, he's that fucking ridiculous.

 

[BuddyColt]

Here we go again...

This is where BloodyDolt (the disappearing tough-guy) goes on and on about calling an illegal alien an illegal alien and indulges his foolish lefty fantasy of open borders. Then the little nutjob runs around calling anyone who actually recognizes the right of the US to have borders and exercise its sovereignty, "Nazis." Yes, he's that fucking ridiculous.

You are a boastful POS talking about me. You're an illegal dick sucker, but that's beside the point. You've had your ass kicked on this board how many times, trying to suggest that the words improper and illegal are synonyms??? Only in your mind son is that true.

I have a response for your "sovereignty" argument:

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people!"

- Patrick Henry

Let me tell you something right up front Uncle Liar: One day I suspect you will be on the receiving end. One day someone is going to get the opportunity to see if your muscles are as big as your mouth. But, even better, I hope that you run into the bad side of Uncle Scam. You should be tried for treason.


Back to the issue at hand. This "sovereign" argument is one of simply building the ultimate POLICE STATE on the backs of the Liberties of the people. On this board you have this lying motherfucker that swears that I'm a liberal, "advocating" Open Borders, etc. He could sue his brains for non - support. The issue isn't even relevant to this thread. But he's here to derail it because he realizes that his side is losing. That's why he has to start out with the false allegations and the name calling.

Make no mistake Uncle Liar is slimy POS coward who thinks he can bully his way through the world. Technology is telling us that this anonymity stuff is on its way out. A lot of the trash talk isn't going to disappear and one day we can put a face to this POS Uncle Liar.

 

[Unkotare]

Let me tell you something right up front Uncle Liar: One day I suspect you will be on the receiving end. One day someone is going to get the opportunity to see if your muscles are as big as your mouth. But, even better, I hope that you run into the bad side of Uncle Scam. You should be tried for treason.

There you go again, little clown. You try to do the 'tough-guy' thing, and then you clam up, over and over and over. Pretty predictable, champ. And then we have the (oh yes, you really, really should be taken seriously) "you should be tried for treason" nonsense. What, no Nazi references this time?


You're a fucking clown, and your foolish lefty fantasy about open borders will NEVER come true. Illegal aliens are illegal aliens, and if YOU don't respect the US enough to recognize our borders and honor our sovereignty then you need to get the fuck out of my country.

 

[Unkotare]

Oh, I almost forgot. BloodyDolt will also accuse anyone with the sense to reject his fantasies and half-wit interpretations of things he doesn't understand of being in the KKK. So be careful, any disagreement with the fucking clown makes you a member of the KKK or the Nazi party (in the clown's twisted little delusions, that is). And if you make him really angry he will threaten to say something threatening, before getting nervous about it and crawling away in silence.

 

[Vidi]

Oh, I almost forgot. BloodyDolt will also accuse anyone with the sense to reject his fantasies and half-wit interpretations of things he doesn't understand of being in the KKK. So be careful, any disagreement with the fucking clown makes you a member of the KKK or the Nazi party (in the clown's twisted little delusions, that is). And if you make him really angry he will threaten to say something threatening, before getting nervous about it and crawling away in silence.

Obviously theres history between you two.

But his post ( #3 ) was pretty accurate, well the third part of it was. The first part was a little off the wall. His subsequent post was chock full of crazy.

 

[BuddyColt]

Oh, I almost forgot. BloodyDolt will also accuse anyone with the sense to reject his fantasies and half-wit interpretations of things he doesn't understand of being in the KKK. So be careful, any disagreement with the fucking clown makes you a member of the KKK or the Nazi party (in the clown's twisted little delusions, that is). And if you make him really angry he will threaten to say something threatening, before getting nervous about it and crawling away in silence.

Obviously theres history between you two.

But his post ( #3 ) was pretty accurate, well the third part of it was. The first part was a little off the wall. His subsequent post was chock full of crazy.

If You're going to claim something is crazy or "off the wall" cite your source. Everything I've said is accurate, honest and verifiable.

As for Uncle Liar, all I'm going to say is he's got a lot of words, but his candy ass won't say them to my face or the face of ANY man. When given the opportunity, he crawls under a rock and hides until his butt buddies save his ass from an old fashioned whooping.

But, all this anonymity crap is going out the window and we will find out how many names he wants to call me to my face. I got $200 that says he won't say one mean thing to me in a face to face.

 

[BuddyColt]

Oh, I almost forgot. BloodyDolt will also accuse anyone with the sense to reject his fantasies and half-wit interpretations of things he doesn't understand of being in the KKK. So be careful, any disagreement with the fucking clown makes you a member of the KKK or the Nazi party (in the clown's twisted little delusions, that is). And if you make him really angry he will threaten to say something threatening, before getting nervous about it and crawling away in silence.

You know that halo is so tight around your head, it affects your thinking. ALL of my contemporaries that sounded like you met the same fate. It's public record how many times they were warned by yours truly:

Waffle House Terrorists - Waffle House Terrorist Plot - Esquire

Courthouse takeover defendant is tearful | timesfreepress.com

There is a cost to rejecting the presumption of innocence and Due Process.

 

[Liability]

How Can Dems Confuse Immigrants with Illegals ?l

Answer: they really can't unless they are tragically stupid as TdM.

Thus, as a rule, we know they aren't just being stupid. They are deliberately conflating terms -- and that is simply them being dishonest.

 

[BuddyColt]

In that pretend world democrats inhabit there is no difference....................lol

Back to the facts:

Seems some folks cannot read. It was George W. Bush's Attorney General, Michael Mukasey, that ruled that immigrants did not have a Right to counsel in removal proceedings (based upon improper entry 8 USC 1325) because the process was civil, not criminal. While case law supports Mukasey, HOLDER declared the foreigners to be entitled to taxpayer paid assistance, thereby implying Holder believes as the National Socialists on these boards that improper entry is a crime (though Holder will not come right out and declare such.)

Holder Reverses Mukasey Ruling on Aliens’ “Right” to Counsel in Removal Cases - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online

Eric Holder’s Bold Crackdown on Illegal Immigration - By Byron York - The Corner - National Review Online


The OP simply has his / her facts bass ackwards.

BTW, I'm not disappearing. Unlike Uncle Liar, I have a real job that requires my presence.

 

[Liability]

In that pretend world democrats inhabit there is no difference....................lol

Back to the facts:

Seems some folks cannot read. It was George W. Bush's Attorney General, Michael Mukasey, that ruled that immigrants did not have a Right to counsel in removal proceedings (based upon improper entry 8 USC 1325) because the process was civil, not criminal. While case law supports Mukasey, HOLDER declared the foreigners to be entitled to taxpayer paid assistance, thereby implying Holder believes as the National Socialists on these boards that improper entry is a crime (though Holder will not come right out and declare such.)

Holder Reverses Mukasey Ruling on Aliens’ “Right” to Counsel in Removal Cases - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online

Eric Holder’s Bold Crackdown on Illegal Immigration - By Byron York - The Corner - National Review Online


The OP simply has his / her facts bass ackwards.

BTW, I'm not disappearing. Unlike Uncle Liar, I have a real job that requires my presence.

DudleyDolt cannot ever get "back" to the facts since he spends his days studiously avoiding initial contact....

He is such a dumb ass that he confuses the REMOVAL proceedings which ARE civil or administrative in nature with the CRIMINAL prosecutions which take place regularly for the CRIME of improper entry.

That's our DudleyDolt. A dumb ass to the bitter end.

 

[L0NGH0RN]

Nobodys confusing anything.

 

[uscitizen]

How Can Dems Confuse Immigrants with Illegals ?


Absolutely. Obama is an Immigrant and also an illegal!

 

[Liability]

How Can Dems Confuse Immigrants with Illegals ?


Absolutely. Obama is an Immigrant and also an illegal!

USsitandspin adds nothing. It's his standard fare.

 

[uscitizen]

How Can Dems Confuse Immigrants with Illegals ?


Absolutely. Obama is an Immigrant and also an illegal!

USsitandspin adds nothing. It's his standard fare.

Seemed to fit right in the thread. It added nothing as well.

 

[Liability]

How Can Dems Confuse Immigrants with Illegals ?


Absolutely. Obama is an Immigrant and also an illegal!

USsitandspin adds nothing. It's his standard fare.

Seemed to fit right in the thread. It added nothing as well.

zzz

 

[Unkotare]

As for Uncle Liar, all I'm going to say is he's got a lot of words, but his candy ass won't say them to my face or the face of ANY man. When given the opportunity, he crawls under a rock and hides until his butt buddies save his ass from an old fashioned whooping.

But, all this anonymity crap is going out the window and we will find out how many names he wants to call me to my face. I got $200 that says he won't say one mean thing to me in a face to face.

HeeeelllllloooooOOOOoooooo....How many hundreds of times do I have to tell you to say what you want to say? How many times do I have to ask if you want to use up your AARP frequent flier miles? How many times, tough-guy? Do you think this pattern of (deviant) behavior isn't completely predictable by now, champ? Come on now champ, either really be a tough-guy or stop making a fool of yourself. I recommend that latter.

Regardless, your lefty fantasy of open borders will NEVER come true. Illegal aliens are illegal aliens and they are an affront to, among other things, the honorable and respectful efforts of legal immigrants, who are a national treasure. But an idiot like you wouldn't understand that (or anything else).

 

[Unkotare]

ALL of my contemporaries that sounded like you met the same fate. .

Fucking drama queen.