How Can Anyone Hate Obama?

[xsited1]

Because he's a politician.

 

[Diuretic]

I do not hate Obama I just hate his ideas. We know he is the MOST LIBERAL Dem in Washington. Think about it the MOST LIBERAL according to the wall street journal.

Did you know that 45% of the people do not pay federal taxes? Obama wants to jack up the prices on the upper rich people. Well what will they do to make up that money. Sing it with me lay off lay off lay off off off. That equals less jobs not more. Obama wants to force big company's into supplying health insurance sing with me again lay off lay off lay off off off equals less jobs not more.

If the large corporations cannot make up their money like that gosh what will they do oh wait I have it jack up the prices of their products. Good thing you are going to get that tax break you are going to need it when the prices of goods soar. So you see my dear you may not pay it out to big goverment but you WILL put that money out. That is not rocket science that is just the facts.

You think his spirtual life is not important think agian. I tend to look at a persons walk with God as to how I feel about their judgement. So that being said I think your religious stance is the MOST IMPORTANT DECISION in your life. Obama claims to be a Christian. As a Christian he knows God is the most important decision in his life Yet he attends a church for 20 years and he does not know his pastor is a bigot a Harvard graduate did not pick that up and it took the media oh I don't know 2 weeks to pick it up.

Yes others go to this church I guess they are all bigot's and Obama clamis he had no idea so he did not go enough to notice what took the media 2 weeks to notice he was sooooo out of touch with the most important decision of his life it is scary or he is just flat out lying. Which is it?

Obama said he would never desert his pastor and that is exactly what he did. For me if you cannot run your own personal life especailly the most important decision of your life I cannot trust him to run this country. It does matter what you do in your personal life this is how you handle things in your life. You just don't wake up one day and become this totally different person. This is the way Obama runs his life. He is not going to change once he is in office.

It does matter he was hanging out with Ayers. Ayers oppointed Obama to distribute millions to alternate schools that taught children radically politically ideology not science not math not reading what he wants us to belive he wants to teach our children that is not what his record is showing. Obama is just scary and we are fools to put this lunatic in office.

Obama did vote to with hold life saving medical care for infants who survive a abortion that is a fact.


Nancy Pelosi is already saying she wants to revisit some law we have that will dampen our freedom of speech so talk it up now if have anything to say say it now our government is in the process of shutting you up when Obama gets into office.

Not to mention Obama has no foreign policy experience and wants to have tea with dictators who hate us with no preconditions he is foolish. Don't throw up Sarah to me I like her to and she is NOT running for president yet McCain is.

It's okay, when he becomes president he'll do a fine job. He's a very good candidate, much better than McCain. McCain is past it, he's in the race for pure ambition, but he's a duffer, he should retire to his ranch and enjoy beautiful Arizona. Obama has energy and ideas. He knows what has to be done to get your country back on track. He'll be very good for the US. I just hope he doesn't crap on the rest of us in terms of trade relations.

But he will be good for you.

 

[mdjgirl7]

It's okay, when he becomes president he'll do a fine job. He's a very good candidate, much better than McCain. McCain is past it, he's in the race for pure ambition, but he's a duffer, he should retire to his ranch and enjoy beautiful Arizona. Obama has energy and ideas. He knows what has to be done to get your country back on track. He'll be very good for the US. I just hope he doesn't crap on the rest of us in terms of trade relations.

But he will be good for you.

No he won't he is a socialist and a liberal not good for us. I am glad you cannot vote here.

 

[Diuretic]

No he won't he is a socialist and a liberal not good for us. I am glad you cannot vote here.

He will be fine, really. Let me tell you, if I lived in the States I'd move to Vermont just to vote for Bernie Sanders, so you have to know I'm serious about socialism. But Obama isn't a socialist. Not at all. He may be somewhat liberal and that might be threatening for some but you know, he's a smart bloke.

McCain is old, he's past it, he's only fit to be put out to pasture. That might sound a bit cruel but think about it, he's not applying for a job as city dogcatcher to supplement his pension. He is simply not able to do the job. If I were hiring him for prez I'd spike his cv/resume. Too old. Not able. Can't keep up.

And the sheila? Don't get me started.

 

[Turboswede]

I do not hate Obama I just hate his ideas. We know he is the MOST LIBERAL Dem in Washington. Think about it the MOST LIBERAL according to the wall street journal.

I don’t know about that, Barney Frank is pretty liberal, as is my Congressman, Jim McDermott. Are you sure Obama wasn’t called the most Liberal Democratic senator in D.C.?

 

[Turboswede]

I do not hate Obama I just hate his ideas. We know he is the MOST LIBERAL Dem in Washington. Think about it the MOST LIBERAL according to the wall street journal.

Did you know that 45% of the people do not pay federal taxes? Obama wants to jack up the prices on the upper rich people. Well what will they do to make up that money. Sing it with me lay off lay off lay off off off. That equals less jobs not more. Obama wants to force big company's into supplying health insurance sing with me again lay off lay off lay off off off equals less jobs not more.

If the large corporations cannot make up their money like that gosh what will they do oh wait I have it jack up the prices of their products. Good thing you are going to get that tax break you are going to need it when the prices of goods soar. So you see my dear you may not pay it out to big goverment but you WILL put that money out. That is not rocket science that is just the facts.

You think his spirtual life is not important think agian. I tend to look at a persons walk with God as to how I feel about their judgement. So that being said I think your religious stance is the MOST IMPORTANT DECISION in your life. Obama claims to be a Christian. As a Christian he knows God is the most important decision in his life Yet he attends a church for 20 years and he does not know his pastor is a bigot a Harvard graduate did not pick that up and it took the media oh I don't know 2 weeks to pick it up.

Yes others go to this church I guess they are all bigot's and Obama clamis he had no idea so he did not go enough to notice what took the media 2 weeks to notice he was sooooo out of touch with the most important decision of his life it is scary or he is just flat out lying. Which is it?

Obama said he would never desert his pastor and that is exactly what he did. For me if you cannot run your own personal life especailly the most important decision of your life I cannot trust him to run this country. It does matter what you do in your personal life this is how you handle things in your life. You just don't wake up one day and become this totally different person. This is the way Obama runs his life. He is not going to change once he is in office.

It does matter he was hanging out with Ayers. Ayers oppointed Obama to distribute millions to alternate schools that taught children radically politically ideology not science not math not reading what he wants us to belive he wants to teach our children that is not what his record is showing. Obama is just scary and we are fools to put this lunatic in office.

Obama did vote to with hold life saving medical care for infants who survive a abortion that is a fact.


Nancy Pelosi is already saying she wants to revisit some law we have that will dampen our freedom of speech so talk it up now if have anything to say say it now our government is in the process of shutting you up when Obama gets into office.

Not to mention Obama has no foreign policy experience and wants to have tea with dictators who hate us with no preconditions he is foolish. Don't throw up Sarah to me I like her to and she is NOT running for president yet McCain is.

See, this is a rational argument, the right should never go with rationality when developing an argument because liberals are just better at arguing, best for the right to stick with issues of blood, land and God (which the drafter spend most of their time on anyway.).

“I do not hate Obama I just hate his ideas. We know he is the MOST LIBERAL Dem in Washington. Think about it the MOST LIBERAL according to the wall street journal.”

I like the WSJ but I don’t they are the best source for who is most liberal; they are just asking their fiscally conservative readers to ignore Palin and vote for McCain Anyway. Teddy is more liberal than Obama as are numerous congressmen and women.

Did you know that 45% of the people do not pay federal taxes?

Sorry but you are wrong, 45% of people do not pay Federal Income Tax, just about everyone in that 45% pays SSI and Medicare. Did you know that a big chunk of the 55% that pay Fed Income tax do not pay SSI (12.4% off the top) or if they do it is caped based on the SSA wage base? In addition all Americans who drive pay federal gas tax, etc.

Obama wants to jack up the prices on the upper rich people.

And? As they receive most of the income benefit from federal spending that’s only fair.

“Well what will they do to make up that money? Sing it with me lay off lay off lay off off off. That equals less jobs not more.”

So that’s the threat, raise taxes on the workers of America or the owners of business will lay them off? Corporate officers will not lay off employees out of spite; layoffs occur when employees are redundant or do not generate enough revenue to justify their compensation.

“Obama wants to force big companies into supplying health insurance sing with me again lay off lay off lay off off off equals less jobs not more.”

Big companies already supply health insurance to their employees and have been asking the government to cover those costs for years. It’s the small business owners who may be asked to provide employees with health benefits…which they would not need to do at all if there were universal health insurance.

“If the large corporations cannot make up their money like that gosh what will they do oh wait I have it jack up the prices of their products.”

That’s not how prices are set, its like wherever conservatives go to college they just don’t have an economics program or something. Prices are set based on demand for a product. Company A makes and sells widgets and there is a point on the curve where supply and demand meet and that is the price set for the widget.

If the cost of production goes up but the widgets still make a profit on a per-unit basis there is no need to lay anyone off, and raising the price of the Widget will only negatively impact the aggregate profit realized by the corporation.

So, what is impacted? Corporate Profits.

Profits can be reinvested in the company or paid out to shareholders. As W. lowered the tax rate on dividends paid from 35% to 15% investors have been clamoring for corps to pay out dividends rather than reinvest those profits into the business.

So, dividends paid by that particular company may drop, and that’s the risk you take if you are a capitalist.

“Good thing you are going to get that tax break you are going to need it when the prices of goods soar.”

I love inflation, as should any debtor with fixed interest terms. Do you know who hates inflation? Creditors. I would think that Obama giving me any tax credit would be totally irresponsible.

“So you see my dear you may not pay it out to big government but you WILL put that money out. That is not rocket science that is just the facts.”

I am willing to pay more out of pocket if it means that my children will be able to get mortgages at 6% instead of 60% due to the national debt’s impact on the financial sector.

“You think his spiritual life is not important think again. I tend to look at a persons walk with God as to how I feel about their judgment. So that being said I think your religious stance is the MOST IMPORTANT DECISION in your life. Obama claims to be a Christian. As a Christian he knows God is the most important decision in his life Yet he attends a church for 20 years and he does not know his pastor is a bigot a Harvard graduate did not pick that up and it took the media oh I don't know 2 weeks to pick it up.”

Yes others go to this church I guess they are all bigot's and Obama claims he had no idea so he did not go enough to notice what took the media 2 weeks to notice he was sooooo out of touch with the most important decision of his life it is scary or he is just flat out lying. Which is it?

Obama said he would never desert his pastor and that is exactly what he did. For me if you cannot run your own personal life especially the most important decision of your life I cannot trust him to run this country. It does matter what you do in your personal life this is how you handle things in your life. You just don't wake up one day and become this totally different person. This is the way Obama runs his life. He is not going to change once he is in office.”

Ah, I forgot that Christians hate Christians who don’t believe as they do even worse than Jews, Muslims or Pagans. I guess I just Forgot about the whole Martin Luther chapter of European history. Oh BTW Hate is not a family value (I just love that slogan). I don’t really care about religion so I can’t really relate.

“It does matter he was hanging out with Ayers. Ayers appointed Obama to distribute millions to alternate schools that taught children radically politically ideology not science not math not reading what he wants us to believe he wants to teach our children that is not what his record is showing. Obama is just scary and we are fools to put this lunatic in office.”

Ok, here we are going to have an issue, my sister graduated from an Alternative high school after she was kicked out of other public schools for pregnancy. I just won’t say anything else on this.

I think we are drifting into venom with the “Obama is just scary and we are fools to put this lunatic in office” He patently is not a lunatic and we are not “fools” to put him in office, Its like you think he is Jerry Brown or something.

“Obama did vote to with hold life saving medical care for infants who survive a(n) abortion that is a fact.”

Ok, so you hate him if he is pro choice…and? For a social moderate fiscal conservative swing voter, waving signs around with aborted fetuses on them will not convince me to vote for McCain.

“Nancy Pelosi is already saying she wants to revisit some law we have that will dampen our freedom of speech so talk it up now if have anything to say say it now our government is in the process of shutting you up when Obama gets into office.”

What? What did Nancy say about restricting speech?

“Not to mention Obama has no foreign policy experience and wants to have tea with dictators who hate us with no preconditions he is foolish. Don't throw up Sarah to me I like her to and she is NOT running for president yet McCain is.”

Yes, but actuarially McCain has a good chance of not making it through 4 or 8 years, that’s just a statistical fact. As for Foreign experience, Obama has Joe to help and I think he is less likely to get us into a conflict involving Russia or the PRC and those are the only two I really worry about. Sure a Nuclear terrorism could put a big hole in DC, but the Ruskies and Chinese can still obliterate every city in North America with over 10,000 people so those are the two we can’t push too far.

So, there you have it folks, the #1 reason swing voters won’t be voting McCain, his base. With friends like that…

 

[elvis]

"Ok, so you hate him if he is pro choice…and? For a social moderate fiscal conservative swing voter, waving signs around with aborted fetuses on them will not convince me to vote for McCain."

You consider blocking the born alive bill simply being pro-choice?

 

[Turboswede]

"Ok, so you hate him if he is pro choice…and? For a social moderate fiscal conservative swing voter, waving signs around with aborted fetuses on them will not convince me to vote for McCain."

You consider blocking the born alive bill simply being pro-choice?

No, I don't know enough about it but, Abortion is such a non issue for me and I assume from the name it has something to do with abortion.

My point was, to get swing voters you need to play down the aspects of your candidate that a swing voter may find objectionable. Clinton was marketed as a pro business fiscally conservative Democrat. That’s why he managed to pull voters that had voted for Regan over to the Democrats for 8 years.

To get swing voters to go with McCain the focus should be on the economy, economic policy and fiscal responsibility are the issues the republicans should focus on if they want to attract people from outside the Republican base.

Maybe it’s hard to understand why someone would be more interested in fiscal policy than Abortion. Here’s the deal, the abortion issue just doesn’t affect me at this point but fiscal policy does. I don’t want Abortion to be illegal but I live in the 9th Circuit so if it becomes a state issue I am pretty confident Washington will still offer a choice.

In fact, I see anti-abortion groups mostly as a branch of domestic terrorist from the bombings that they perpetrated in the 80’s and 90’s. Even if McCain were linked to those groups (and he is not), it would not effect my decision to vote for him.

So McCain should focus on things like “I will not take away the right to chose” or “religion will not play a role in my administration”. Those were the things he had done in the past that made me want to vote for him. I mean we are talking about a GOP member who once said that the “radical religious right is the greatest threat facing American democracy”. That’s a William F. Buckley that I wouldn’t have a problem supporting.

 

[4PeepsByPeeps]

We live in a nation composed of a free market system; where hard work, due diligence, and complete transparency are key tenets for potential good, honest success. In our system and within our constitution, we are not given the right for insurance, nor are we given the right to a job. Our own ability to work hard and be a contributing member to society can lead to these benefits.

I am a Republican. I desire less government involvement within our free market system. An Obama/Biden run government will dictate increasing taxes on small, medium, and large businesses that earn over $250K in annual revenue. Let's face it, companies that make over $250K in revenue are the companies that employ multiple individuals within their organizations. So although Obama/Biden are not taxing the middle class directly, they are penalizing the middle class. U.S. businesses pay 35 cents for every dollar earned (one of the highest tax rates in the world); the remaining 65 cents goes to pay salaries, vendors, inputs, insurance, R&D, etc. Increasing taxes means reducing companies' profit margins which influences the ability to borrow the necessary money in order to grow business. By increasing taxes on these large - medium - small businesses means the need for companies to find new ways to maintain/grow profitability - increasing prices on final goods/services, outsourcing, decreasing payroll, layoffs, sourcing cheaper inputs, etc. Kinda sounds like the current situation that we are in...doesn't it?

Implementing higher taxes on U.S. business is a really bad idea in an economy that is already in a downward spiral. We need better policy that does not penalize U.S. based companies for staying U.S. based companies. Obama/Biden position Republican based economic policy (where no one pays more in taxes) only benefits large revenue producing companies. Not true. It benefits all Americans. American know how is what drives new technology, new business ventures, new ideas, new plants, new offices that create new jobs for Americans. This requires money to be reinvested back into business not more taxes that stagnates the ability to grow.

We all are required to pay taxes. As we being the middle class represent the largest sector to our economy, the taxes being generated from our income represent a larger contribution to Obama/Biden's proposed socialist programs. The money you earn every paycheck from your hard work should go to support your family not to those in our society who choose to take but not give. Socializing programs is a really bad idea. Obama is a socialist; his platform proves it. More government imposed systems is not the solution. Look at Russia and Cuba; ask the citizens within these countries if they enjoy the overbearance of government within their everyday lives.

To address your original question of "Why do people hate Obama". There is a lot of ignorance, myopic thinking, hatred, and greed in our world. We have seen these setiments on both sides of the political party lines. Obama has been refered to as a terrorist and McCain has been compared to a white supremist. Both accusations are based on ignorance. We need to preach to the American people to research the policies/platforms of the two presidential candidates in order to make our best judgement on who we believe is appropriate candidate to lead our great nation. People should not rely solely on the voices they read/hear through media; our nation is great because we all have the voice that can make a difference.

It is my opinion and my concern about associations that any elected government official (Republican, Independent, or Democrat) may have with unrepentive known terrorists. Let me clarify, I do not claim that Senator Obama is a terrorist or maintains ongoing relationships with known unrepentive terrorists. However, if Sept 11 did not happen until 2008 (God forbid that it will ever happen again), would we all maintain the same lackadaisical opinions of Senator Obama's prior association with a known unrepentive terrorist during this election?

 

[trobinett]

Looking at the forum here I have seen a lot of “if Obama is elected, then the world will end” and generally a lot of venom spat out at a generally mild mannered normal guy. From some of these posts you would think he is the Anti-Christ incarnate come to bring hell to earth.

He’s not…He’s just a Politician…so calm down.

He IS the Anti-Christ, AND a politician, the worst of both worlds, whats NOT to worry about?