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Provisional ballots are mandated by federal law for federal elections. No state, precinct or poll worker can turn people away for not having photo ID or not being on the voter roll. They will be allowed to vote.Everyone will be allowed to vote regardless of ID. If they have no ID they will simply cast a provisional ballot that will be counted after their identity has been verified. Simple, fare, cheap & accurate.
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If THAT is done in ALL states, there is little concern. There may be a few instances wherein poll workers turn people away. Errors will happen, that I accept.
Provisional ballots are mandated by federal law for federal elections. No state, precinct or poll worker can turn people away for not having photo ID or not being on the voter roll. They will be allowed to vote.
Provisional ballots are mandated by federal law for federal elections. No state, precinct or poll worker can turn people away for not having photo ID or not being on the voter roll. They will be allowed to vote.Everyone will be allowed to vote regardless of ID. If they have no ID they will simply cast a provisional ballot that will be counted after their identity has been verified. Simple, fare, cheap & accurate.
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If THAT is done in ALL states, there is little concern. There may be a few instances wherein poll workers turn people away. Errors will happen, that I accept.
Provisional ballots are mandated by federal law for federal elections. No state, precinct or poll worker can turn people away for not having photo ID or not being on the voter roll. They will be allowed to vote.
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That was not my experience in 2000; the registered voter with me had no DL. I did, and when an affidavit was found, I had to verify I knew the voter, the voter was a resident of the state, 18 or older, ETC. I was required to vote by provisional ballot in 2002 because my license had an address that differed slightly from the address on the rolls. one must have "their papers" in order to vote where I live, by chance, a very RED area of the state.
How about offering up real evidence of widespread voter fraud before alienating people without ID's?
How is asking someone to prove they are legally eligible to vote alienating them? What are we supposed to do just believe you are who you say you are?
No really I am Billy the Kid what don't you believe me?
If they are a citizen of this country... they are eligible to vote. When you apply for a voter registration card, you have to have proof of citizenship. You guys want to double down because someone on the radio told you that them "durn Libruls" are robbing yer "publican Candidates" out of 'lections... 'cause Glenn Savage Hannibaugh told yer so.
When in fact, it's voter suppression....You know it, I know it...and they know it too. Your side can't win without it.
Electronic Poll Roster Suggested as Voter ID Alternative
ST. PAUL, Minn. - Gov. Mark Dayton and Secretary of State Mark Ritchie say they have found an alternative to the voter identification push at the state Capitol, unveiling an electronic roster system that would utilize the photographs that are already in the state's file system instead of a physical ID.
"There are 84,000 people who don't carry a photo ID -- dont' need it, but their photo could be inside of the system and right there," Ritchie said. "The individual who simply lost their wallet -- or had their wallet stolen, their photo is inside the system."
Ritchie says this alternative would eliminate the need for voters to present an ID at the polls.
Electronic Poll Roster Suggested as Voter ID Alternative
How about offering up real evidence of widespread voter fraud before alienating people without ID's?
Isn't voter fraud enough? Why does it have to be widespread?
If a person has a right to vote, let him provide what it takes to be an eligible voter.
How about offering up real evidence of widespread voter fraud before alienating people without ID's?
How is asking someone to prove they are legally eligible to vote alienating them? What are we supposed to do just believe you are who you say you are?
No really I am Billy the Kid what don't you believe me?
If they are a citizen of this country... they are eligible to vote. When you apply for a voter registration card, you have to have proof of citizenship. You guys want to double down because someone on the radio told you that them "durn Libruls" are robbing yer "publican Candidates" out of 'lections... 'cause Glenn Savage Hannibaugh told yer so.
When in fact, it's voter suppression....You know it, I know it...and they know it too. Your side can't win without it.
How is asking someone to prove they are legally eligible to vote alienating them? What are we supposed to do just believe you are who you say you are?
No really I am Billy the Kid what don't you believe me?
If they are a citizen of this country... they are eligible to vote. When you apply for a voter registration card, you have to have proof of citizenship. You guys want to double down because someone on the radio told you that them "durn Libruls" are robbing yer "publican Candidates" out of 'lections... 'cause Glenn Savage Hannibaugh told yer so.
When in fact, it's voter suppression....You know it, I know it...and they know it too. Your side can't win without it.
You can register to vote by mail. No one asks for proof of citizenship.
the people at the polling place where you vote don't know who you are so you should have to prove it before casting a ballot.
Asking for ID does not hinder anyone's rights in any way to say it does is idiocy.
If they are a citizen of this country... they are eligible to vote. When you apply for a voter registration card, you have to have proof of citizenship. You guys want to double down because someone on the radio told you that them "durn Libruls" are robbing yer "publican Candidates" out of 'lections... 'cause Glenn Savage Hannibaugh told yer so.
When in fact, it's voter suppression....You know it, I know it...and they know it too. Your side can't win without it.
You can register to vote by mail. No one asks for proof of citizenship.
the people at the polling place where you vote don't know who you are so you should have to prove it before casting a ballot.
Asking for ID does not hinder anyone's rights in any way to say it does is idiocy.
I've learned to take any plan proposed by a Republican very seriously. I voted Republican the first 30 years of my adult life but it used to be different. I wouldn't trust one of them in a shithouse with a face mask on.
Maybe Minnesota thinks this is a good idea because they hold the record for the highest number of voter fraud in any election...........but can we trust them??
Minnesota Leads the Nation in Voter Fraud Convictions -- ST. PAUL, Minn., Oct. 13, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --
How about offering up real evidence of widespread voter fraud before alienating people without ID's?
Isn't voter fraud enough? Why does it have to be widespread?
If a person has a right to vote, let him provide what it takes to be an eligible voter.
LOL!! You would have made a case back in west TN in the 40's and 50's when the racial bigots had elections rigged with a poll tax or questions on a little test they made up to keep the Blacks from even showing up in town on election day. I have a question for you. What was wrong with the voting setup which worked when Reagan was elected
The only election I've seen stolen in the last 20 years was when Bush's brother Jeb and his concubine Katherine Harris plus the supreme court screwed Al Gore...and they did give him a royal screwing.
The Republicans are a lot of things but stupid isn't one of them. They know that most of their votes come from White bible thumpers and percentage wise they're losing more of them each election. Photo ID's is just another hoop for poor people and cripples to have to jump through. Basically they're losing ground in their base of voteers which have been pretty well a given and knowing that by the year 2040 White people will be a minority in the U S they're getting desperate.
Actually those sections of the Constitution don't simply say votes can't be denied based on certain charactersisticss, they say the right to vote can't be denied.
Amendment 15
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Amendment 19
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Amendment 24
The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Amendment 26
The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
So ya, "the right of citizens of the United States to vote" is in the Constitution.
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Electronic Poll Roster Suggested as Voter ID Alternative
Electronic Poll Roster Suggested as Voter ID Alternative"There are 84,000 people who don't carry a photo ID -- dont' need it, but their photo could be inside of the system and right there," Ritchie said. "The individual who simply lost their wallet -- or had their wallet stolen, their photo is inside the system."
Electronic Poll Roster Suggested as Voter ID Alternative
ST. PAUL, Minn. - Gov. Mark Dayton and Secretary of State Mark Ritchie say they have found an alternative to the voter identification push at the state Capitol, unveiling an electronic roster system that would utilize the photographs that are already in the state's file system instead of a physical ID.
"There are 84,000 people who don't carry a photo ID -- dont' need it, but their photo could be inside of the system and right there," Ritchie said. "The individual who simply lost their wallet -- or had their wallet stolen, their photo is inside the system."
Ritchie says this alternative would eliminate the need for voters to present an ID at the polls.
Electronic Poll Roster Suggested as Voter ID Alternative
You are going to let the government store your photo because you don't want to carry an I.D.? Has the world gone crazy?
I like it too. I'd be more enthused if they made it a fingerprint match interface if we're going high-tech with the effort. Then again, the idea of the usually very ancient poll worker trying to call up your prints makes me chuckle. Not a bad idea.
It needs to positively confirm the person presenting the Voter Registration Card is who the card says he or she is.
It needs to be provided at no direct cost to the voter; elsewise it's a poll tax
Yeah we should all just let the government keep our fingerprints and DNA on file.
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State issued photo ID is a not issue as far as limiting someones right to vote. Even if these 84,000 people all showed up to the polls & had no ID they will all be allowed to vote provisional ballot. If the election is close enough for those votes to matter, it will not take long to check all those identities before the vote is certified.
