How about some real Arctic research

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    Instead of the absolute worthless drivel that olfraud and Chris love to pander. There is a new book out utilizing 85 years of actual scientific data and analysis produced by scientists from the Russian Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute.

    They particularly detest the computer modelling being done

    “The models neglect natural fluctuations because they have no means of incorporating them, and put the entire blame for climate changes since the 19th century on human activity"

    And one of my favourites

    “where data do exist, we should prefer data to computer models”

    The Preface states

    “.…scientists have predicted a significant decrease in sea-ice extent in the Arctic and even its complete disappearance in the summertime by the end of the 21st century. This monograph presents results of studies of climatic system changes in the Arctic, focused on ice cover, that do not justify such extreme conclusions.” “Many studies and international projects, such as the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment (ACIA), attribute the air temperature increase during the last quarter of the 20th century exclusively to accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. However these studies typically do not account for natural hydrometeorological fluctuations whose effects on multiyear variability, as this monograph shows, can far exceed the anthropogenic impact on climate.”

    There are elements of the book online or it is available in its entirety for only 130 bucks. Mine is on its way.

    SpringerLink - Fulltext
     
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    A golden oldie and golden goodie:

    Arctic Ice Volume Has Increased 25% Since May, 2008 | Watts Up With That?
     
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    And we have our own researchers in the Artic.

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    The U.S. Navy lies! :rolleyes:
     
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    Silly ass. The ice in May was more than usual, because of the unusual freeze in March. However, by September, it was the lowest on record.

    Of course, Watts is not going to write about that.
     
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    Poor olfraud. Religion collapsing around you, reduced to launching endless personal attacks because you've got nothing...poor poor olfraud.

    And just for the record, the book is not by Anthony, it is by some very well respected scientists who use real data and real scientific methods to derive the real story of what we are seeing.

    They don't have to resort to manufacturing data, massaging past data, and of course creating computer models that aren't capable of modelling anything.

    One more thing, Anthony has a section devoted to the Ice levels that is updated daily and comes from the actual sources.

    Here it is for those who are inclined to learn, unlike our follower of Ned Lud here.

    Sea Ice Page | Watts Up With That?
     
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    It's just as stupid now as when you last posted it!

    Obviously the Navy sees the ice as THIN enough to surface through!!!!!!!
     

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