House Votes to Repeal “Job-Killing” Health Care Law 236-181 and Now This...

[Annie]

And now this...


The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : BREAKING: CBO Says Repealing ObamaCare Would Reduce Net Spending by $540 Billion

BREAKING: CBO Says Repealing ObamaCare Would Reduce Net Spending by $540 Billion

By Philip Klein on 1.7.11 @ 1:56PM

The Congressional Budget Office, in an email to Capitol Hill staffers obtained by the Spectator, has said that repealing the national health care law would reduce net spending by $540 billion in the ten year period from 2012 through 2021. That number represents the cost of the new provisions, minus Medicare cuts. Repealing the bill would also eliminate $770 billion in taxes. It's the tax hikes in the health care law (along with the Medicare cuts) which accounts for the $230 billion in deficit reduction.

Full email, from Edward "Sandy" Davis, CBO's Associate Director for Legislative Affairs, below.

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[RetiredGySgt]

And now this...


The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : BREAKING: CBO Says Repealing ObamaCare Would Reduce Net Spending by $540 Billion

BREAKING: CBO Says Repealing ObamaCare Would Reduce Net Spending by $540 Billion

By Philip Klein on 1.7.11 @ 1:56PM

The Congressional Budget Office, in an email to Capitol Hill staffers obtained by the Spectator, has said that repealing the national health care law would reduce net spending by $540 billion in the ten year period from 2012 through 2021. That number represents the cost of the new provisions, minus Medicare cuts. Repealing the bill would also eliminate $770 billion in taxes. It's the tax hikes in the health care law (along with the Medicare cuts) which accounts for the $230 billion in deficit reduction.

Full email, from Edward "Sandy" Davis, CBO's Associate Director for Legislative Affairs, below.

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Want to bet all the Liberals citing how great the CBO is will suddenly find fault with it?

 

[Stephanie]

Contact your Reps and tell them to get behind the Repeal of this Monstrosity.

 

[Real American]

Can anyone cite specific passage in the HC law that they are against outside of the mandate?

and can someone explain how the law is "job killing?" ive head thing term quote a few times, but no one ever explains how the bill will cost jobs....

 

[Jeremy]

Can anyone cite specific passage in the HC law that they are against outside of the mandate?

and can someone explain how the law is "job killing?" ive head thing term quote a few times, but no one ever explains how the bill will cost jobs....

Why don't you start by asking these 111 companies/unions...

Protocol Marketing Group
Sasnak
Star Tek
Adventist Care Centers
B.E.S.T of NY
Boskovich Farms, Inc
Gallegos Corp
Jeffords Steel and Engineering
O.K. Industries
Service Employees Benefit Fund
Sun Pacific Farming Coop
UFCW Allied Trade Health & Welfare Trust
HCR Manor Care
IBEW No.915
Integra BMS for Culp, Inc.
New England Health Care
Aegis Insurance
Alliance One Tobacco
Asbestos Workers Local 53 Welfare Fund
Assurant Health (2nd Application)
Captain Elliot's Party Boats
Carlson Restaurants
CH Guenther & Son
CKM Industries dba Miller Environmental
CWVEBA
Darden Restaurants
Duarte Nursery
Employees Security Fund
Florida Trowel Trades
Ingles Markets
Meijer
O'Reilly Auto Parts
Plumbers & Pipefitters Local 123 Welfare Fund
Sun Belt
UFCW Local 227
Uncle Julio's
United Group
US Imaging
Vino Farms
Advanta
Agricare
Alaska Seafood
American Fidelity
Convergys
Darensberries
Gowan Company
Greystar
Macayo Restaurants
Periodical Services
UniFirst
Universal Forest Products
UFCW Maximus Local 455
AHS
GuideStone Financial Resources
Local 25 SEIU
MAUSER Corp.
Preferred Care, Inc.
Ruby Tuesday
The Dixie Group, Inc.
UFCW Local 1262
Whelan Security Company
AMF Bowling Worldwide
Assisted Living Concepts
Case & Associates
GPM Investments
Grace Living Centers
Mountaire
Swift Spinning
Belmont Village
Caliber Services
Cracker Barrel
DISH Network
Groendyke Transport, Inc
Pocono Medical Center
Regis Corporation
The Pictsweet Co.
Diversified Interiors
Local 802 Musicians Health Fund
Medical Card System
The Buccaneer
CIGNA
Greater Metropolitan Hotel
Local 17 Hospitality Benefit Fund
GS-ILA
Allied
Harden Healthcare
Health and Welfare Benefit System
Health Connector
I.U.P.A.T
Sanderson Plumbing Products, Inc.
Transport Workers
UFT Welfare Fund
Aegis
Aetna
Allflex
Baptist Retirement
BCS Insurance
Cryogenic
Fowler Packing Co.
Guy C. Lee Mfg.
HealthPort
Jack in the Box
Maritime Association
Maverick County
Metro Paving Fund
PMPS-ILA
PS-ILA
QK/DRD (Denny's)
Reliance Standard
Tri-Pak
UABT

 

[Real American]

that still doesnt answer the question, do you have a real opinion on this matter or do you just like to list companies.

and i dont see how the american spectator is much of a reputable website...

 

[liebuster]

Can anyone cite specific passage in the HC law that they are against outside of the mandate?

and can someone explain how the law is "job killing?" ive head thing term quote a few times, but no one ever explains how the bill will cost jobs....

I don't have much time, but off the top of my head I can say insurance premiums are going up because of it, which would mean the cost of employees go up, which would mean companies will hire less of them.

Why don't you ask Obama why he's handing out waivers to companies so they don't have to abide by the new "wonderful", "job creating", "you can keep your insurance" health care bill?

 

[Sallow]

Yeppers..

Should have went for the Public Option in the first place.

But what can ya do?

Republicans got this..now they don't want it anymore.

 

[Revere]

Who is insane enough to believe the biggest government entitlement in the history of the country will save money?

 

[elvis]

Yeppers..

Should have went for the Public Option in the first place.

But what can ya do?

Republicans got this..now they don't want it anymore.

Um, they didn't want "this" either.

 

[Sallow]

Yeppers..

Should have went for the Public Option in the first place.

But what can ya do?

Republicans got this..now they don't want it anymore.

Um, they didn't want "this" either.

What they really want is to shovel poor and middle class taxes in the pockets of the rich. But they are more then happy to lard their "ideas" into a bill they aren't going to vote for..

Which was the case here.

This Bill was far more conservative then Dole's alternative to Clinton's health care bill. Or Nixon's initial stab at it before HMOs.

 

[Care4all]

Who is insane enough to believe the biggest government entitlement in the history of the country will save money?

i think medicare part D, the pill bill, passed a few years back was a BIGGER entitlement, in cost, than the healthcare bill.

 

[Meister]

that still doesnt answer the question, do you have a real opinion on this matter or do you just like to list companies.

and i dont see how the american spectator is much of a reputable website...

You can pick and choose who you would like to believe is reputable. Left/Right, it usually ends up being the one that's on your side.

 

[Revere]

Who is insane enough to believe the biggest government entitlement in the history of the country will save money?

i think medicare part D, the pill bill, passed a few years back was a BIGGER entitlement, in cost, than the healthcare bill.

That wasn't bigger overall, but it's still an example of government's ineptitude at containing costs of anything.

 

[Revere]

American Spectator merely reported what the Congressional Budget Committee gave them.

 

[Revere]

Yeppers..

Should have went for the Public Option in the first place.

But what can ya do?

Republicans got this..now they don't want it anymore.

Um, they didn't want "this" either.

What they really want is to shovel poor and middle class taxes in the pockets of the rich. But they are more then happy to lard their "ideas" into a bill they aren't going to vote for..

Which was the case here.

This Bill was far more conservative then Dole's alternative to Clinton's health care bill. Or Nixon's initial stab at it before HMOs.

Who cares? They are all lousy ideas and this is no less doomed to insolvency than any of those would have been.

 

[Real American]

Can anyone cite specific passage in the HC law that they are against outside of the mandate?

and can someone explain how the law is "job killing?" ive head thing term quote a few times, but no one ever explains how the bill will cost jobs....

I don't have much time, but off the top of my head I can say insurance premiums are going up because of it, which would mean the cost of employees go up, which would mean companies will hire less of them.

Why don't you ask Obama why he's handing out waivers to companies so they don't have to abide by the new "wonderful", "job creating", "you can keep your insurance" health care bill?

health care premiums have been rose approx 87% from 2000 to 2006 according Kaiser.
2008 saw a 9.9% increase, 2009 saw a 9.2% increase and 2010 a 9.0% increase. are skyrocketing health care costs a new thing?

2011 is expected to see another 9% increase, just about the same as 2010. the difference is that in 2011 more employers are requiring the employee to pick up more of the costs. thus the out of pocket costs that employees see is rising by about 12%. (thats according to AARP) so who is to blame here for this actual increase? the insurance companies who have been increasing their rates for a decade, the employers who are making thier employees share more of the burden, or the health care law that hasnt even gone into full effect yet?

and the new law actually prohibits insurance companies from raising the rates on targeted individuals, and makes them raise rates on everyone in the plan instead.

maybe you should do a little research on what a waiver for health care is:

To ensure that we protect the coverage that these workers have today until better options are available for them in 2014, the law allows HHS, in extreme cases, to issue temporary waivers from the phase out of annual limits. There are some important facts to remember about these temporary waivers:
- The waivers only apply to one provision of the law – the provisions phasing out annual limits. Insurance companies and employers that receive waivers must comply with all other parts of the Affordable Care Act.
- The waivers last one year. Insurance companies must reapply for the waivers each year between now and 2014 when annual limits on coverage will be completely prohibited and individuals will have more affordable and better private insurance choices in the competitive Exchange markets.
- All employers and insurers that offer mini-med plans may apply for a waiver if they demonstrate that there will be large increases in premiums or a significant decrease in access to coverage without a waiver. You can read a list of employers and insurers that have received waivers here.

 

[Revere]

Can anyone cite specific passage in the HC law that they are against outside of the mandate?

and can someone explain how the law is "job killing?" ive head thing term quote a few times, but no one ever explains how the bill will cost jobs....

I don't have much time, but off the top of my head I can say insurance premiums are going up because of it, which would mean the cost of employees go up, which would mean companies will hire less of them.

Why don't you ask Obama why he's handing out waivers to companies so they don't have to abide by the new "wonderful", "job creating", "you can keep your insurance" health care bill?

health care premiums have been rose approx 87% from 2000 to 2006 according Kaiser.
2008 saw a 9.9% increase, 2009 saw a 9.2% increase and 2010 a 9.0% increase. are skyrocketing health care costs a new thing?

2011 is expected to see another 9% increase, just about the same as 2010. the difference is that in 2011 more employers are requiring the employee to pick up more of the costs. thus the out of pocket costs that employees see is rising by about 12%. (thats according to AARP) so who is to blame here for this actual increase? the insurance companies who have been increasing their rates for a decade, the employers who are making thier employees share more of the burden, or the health care law that hasnt even gone into full effect yet?

and the new law actually prohibits insurance companies from raising the rates on targeted individuals, and makes them raise rates on everyone in the plan instead.

maybe you should do a little research on what a waiver for health care is:

To ensure that we protect the coverage that these workers have today until better options are available for them in 2014, the law allows HHS, in extreme cases, to issue temporary waivers from the phase out of annual limits. There are some important facts to remember about these temporary waivers:
- The waivers only apply to one provision of the law – the provisions phasing out annual limits. Insurance companies and employers that receive waivers must comply with all other parts of the Affordable Care Act.
- The waivers last one year. Insurance companies must reapply for the waivers each year between now and 2014 when annual limits on coverage will be completely prohibited and individuals will have more affordable and better private insurance choices in the competitive Exchange markets.
- All employers and insurers that offer mini-med plans may apply for a waiver if they demonstrate that there will be large increases in premiums or a significant decrease in access to coverage without a waiver. You can read a list of employers and insurers that have received waivers here.

Why will the failure in 2014 be any different than the failure in 2010?

 

[Revere]

You think unlimited health insurance will be cheap or free?

 

[Real American]

American Spectator merely reported what the Congressional Budget Committee gave them.

why has no other media outlet covered this then...