House GOP refuses to boost funding for election security

[Confounding]

I wasn't aware of any breach of protocol. If they broke the law I would love to see some Democrats in handcuffs. I doubt that will happen, though. What I'm arguing and you keep ignoring is the fact that they WERE hacked, even if it was due to negligence and stupidity.

I am glad to hear you say you would love to see these 60+ Democrats punished for failing to comply with security measures / regs, for NOT conducting background checks that would have immediately flagged them as being connected to terrorists.

As far as the DNC e-mails, we are going to have to disagree based on our definitions of 'hacked'.

Again, I believe 'hacked' is an active term, one that means the 'hacker' aggressively attacks your system and finds a way around your defenses to get in...without your 'assistance'.

Unlike you, I believe sending you an un-known e-mail and you completely ignore the basic security protocols / rules (Do NOT open e-mails from un-known sources, SCAN them all before you open any, etc) and WELOME the hacker in, you have just compromised your own system.

The term 'hacking' is deliberately preferred by the anti-Trump snowflakes because 'illegal collusion' seems much more possible with 'hacking' than it does with a bunch of enemy cyber nerds sitting around in a 'computer bank' sending out 'land-shark' e-mails hoping someone is stupid / lazy enough to blow off their security procedures / rules and just open the e-mail up.

The definition of hacking is "the gaining of unauthorized access to data in a system or computer." You can actually be charged with hacking without actually developing any hacking software at all. If you somehow figured out the password used by somebody important and gained access to a bunch of secret information you could be jailed for hacking.

 

[easyt65]

The definition of hacking is "the gaining of unauthorized access to data in a system or computer." You can actually be charged with hacking without actually developing any hacking software at all. If you somehow figured out the password used by somebody important and gained access to a bunch of secret information you could be jailed for hacking.

I don't totally disagree with you. I personally acknowledge the distinction between someone who is a 'VICTIM' of 'hacking' and a criminal idiot (or just plain criminal) who intentionally opens the door for a hacker , who breaks US laws and Regs to GIVE that hacker illegal access.

Hillary intentionally broke laws, jeopardized national security, and ended up compromising national security. She was not 'TOO STUPID' to know she was doing it.

The House Democrats who hired terrorist-connected Pakistani spies were not 'TOO STUPID' to know what they were doing - they were criminally LAZY and ended up compromising national security.

IMO, if you knowingly break laws and GIVE hackers / enemies illegal access, thereby facilitating espionage, you are NOT a 'victim' - you are an 'ACCOMPLICE'!

 

[debbiedowner]

Should there be more funding, or is true that the program is fully funded and doesn't need additional funding?

House GOP refuses to boost funding for election security

House Republicans are refusing to provide additional funding for state election security grants in a spending bill despite the move upsetting Democrats pointing at Russia's election interference.

Democrats want to continue funding the grants program to help states boost security for their voting systems, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Republicans, however, argue that the program, which is overseen by the federal Election Assistance Commission, is fully funded and does not need the additional allocations.

did russia hack the voting booths?

No Evidence any votes were changed but......

Russia-linked hackers had access to 'alter or delete voter registration data' in a small number of states before the 2016 election

• Russia-linked hackers had access to "alter or delete voter registration data" in a small number of states before the 2016 election, according to the Senate Intelligence Committee.
• The committee released the unclassified version of its investigation into Russian cyber meddling on US voting systems.
• Russian hackers scanned voter databases for vulnerabilities, and managed to successfully infiltrate the voter registration database in several states.
• The Department of Homeland Security has previously said that 21 states were targeted by Russian actors.

Russia-linked hackers had access to "alter or delete voter registration data" in a small number of states before the 2016 election, according to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

The 15-member committee on Tuesday released the unclassified version of its investigation into Russian cyber meddling on US voting systems ahead of the 2016 presidential election.

The Senate findings conclude that cyber actors with ties to the Russian government "conducted an unprecedented,
coordinated cyber campaign against state election infrastructure," which it says was part of a larger campaign to undermine confidence in the US voting system.

The report details how Russian hackers scanned voter databases for vulnerabilities and managed to successfully infiltrate the voter registration database in several states. The actors then had access to "alter or delete voter registration data," although the investigation found no evidence that vote tallies were manipulated or that voter registration data was scraped.

According to the report, at least 18 states were targeted in the hack, and other states reported suspicious or malicious behavior around the same time.

The Senate's findings were based on information provided by each state, and it is possible more states were attacked but the incidents went undetected.

In September, the Department of Homeland Security confirmed 21 states were targeted by Russian actors.

According to the Washington Post, these states included key swing states like Florida, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Wisconsin. The Post added that Illinois had its voter systems breached allowing hackers access to voter information including names, dates of birth, genders, driver's licenses, and partial Social Security numbers for 15 million people.

The Senate's findings are part of the committee's independent investigation into Russian influence during the 2016 election.

 

[Wry Catcher]

In this Country, the States run elections. There are no Federal Elections, only State elections.

Even when you vote for President, you're not really voting for President, you're voting for your State's Electoral College.

General Elections - every even year - are Federal Elections.

That's beside the point ^^^. The issue is, are our elections secure? The fact that the R. Party has benefited from suppressing the vote, and the efforts by a foreign power to influence the '16 election is clear and needs to be funded and investigated. Of course the R's don't want their dirty launder hung out for the voters to know.

 

[Meister]

Quigley's election security amendment would have extended funding for a state grant program overseen by the federal Election Assistance Commission. Congress approved $380 million in the current budget for the program, which is intended to help states strengthen election systems from hacking and other cyberattacks.
Democrats want to approve a similar amount through 2019, but Republicans say money from the current program is still available to states and new spending is not needed.

House Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions, R-Texas, said Congress has already spent more than $3.5 billion on election security since the contested 2000 election. States still have money left from the current $380 million appropriation, and lawmakers have not been made aware of any new requests for more money as the November midterm elections approach, he said.
Republicans Block Bid to Extend Election Security Grants

 

[Kosh]

In this Country, the States run elections. There are no Federal Elections, only State elections.

Even when you vote for President, you're not really voting for President, you're voting for your State's Electoral College.

From the article...

"House Republicans are refusing to provide additional funding for state election security grants in a spending bill despite the move upsetting Democrats pointing at Russia's election interference."

Are you in agreement with what they're doing by refusing to add funding for additional security for STATE ELECTIONS?

And yet the far left drones like you believe there was inference when there was none.

No election system was hacked, no votes changed, nothing.

You far left drones just need to face the fact that Hilary is worse than Trump!

 

[Kosh]

In this Country, the States run elections. There are no Federal Elections, only State elections.

Even when you vote for President, you're not really voting for President, you're voting for your State's Electoral College.

General Elections - every even year - are Federal Elections.

That's beside the point ^^^. The issue is, are our elections secure? The fact that the R. Party has benefited from suppressing the vote, and the efforts by a foreign power to influence the '16 election is clear and needs to be funded and investigated. Of course the R's don't want their dirty launder hung out for the voters to know.

Prove the Russians hacked the elections and prove they changed votes.

or just finally admit that Hilary is worse than Trump.

Silly far left drones!

 

[Edgetho]

General Elections - every even year - are Federal Elections.

That's beside the point ^^^. The issue is, are our elections secure? The fact that the R. Party has benefited from suppressing the vote, and the efforts by a foreign power to influence the '16 election is clear and needs to be funded and investigated. Of course the R's don't want their dirty launder hung out for the voters to know.

No, they're not. They are STATE elections held to determine who will represent the State in DC.

The Generals, every four years for POTUS, are elections held by the various States to determine who their Electors will vote for when the votes are summoned to DC by the Vice President (President of the Senate). In fact, the Constitution doesn't even require a poplar vote but they all do it now.

The Electors can even change their vote if they wish. IOW, an Elector can cast his/her vote for whoever he pleases.

You really should try to understand the topic on which you are posting.

But you're a dimocrap so you get a break for having a low IQ

Here is an article from a sufficiently low IQ publication for you to peruse

What Is The Electoral College? How It Works And Why It Matters | HuffPost

 

[MarcATL]

Yes. Federal Money ALWAYS means Federal Control.

We are supposed to be The United STATES of America. 50 different Sovereign States bonded together by a common cause.

We are slowly becoming not, but we're not supposed to be.

I don't want one ruler, one position of absolute power.

Would you really want Trump having absolute authority over the entire Country?

History is good

But yet you're in full support of Trump, and get pissy at any and everyone who dares have a disagreeing word for him. Correct?

 

[MarcATL]

Seems like some folks don't care much about election security.

When cheaters find a way to win, they don't want anything to obstruct them from their ill-gotten gains.

 

[MarcATL]

When the Dirty Democrats stop blocking Voter ID laws and registering non-citizens to vote they might be taken seriously.

Herr Trump had a commission look into that very lie you're spewing about "registering non-citizens" to vote" and he had to quietly shut it down because *SHOCK* no evidence was found to substantiate that fake news.

 

[MarcATL]

Is there any problem the left doesn’t think can be fixed by just spending more on it?

Nobody spends money on "solving" government problems like Republicans...

Here are the 2018 campaign's biggest individual donors – so far

 

[Edgetho]

Nobody spends money on "solving" government problems like Republicans...

Here are the 2018 campaign's biggest individual donors – so far

Everything you people say and do is couched in a lie. Why is that?

Note how they isolate 'individual' donors only?

How about the FACT that 8 of the top ten donors of all stripes are dimocrap donors? Tens of Millions of dollars difference between what was given to dimocraps and Patriotic Republicans. TENS of millions

Top Organization Contributors: All Federal Contributions | OpenSecrets

You people lie about everything

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Is there any problem the left doesn’t think can be fixed by just spending more on it?

Nobody spends money on "solving" government problems like Republicans...

Here are the 2018 campaign's biggest individual donors – so far

WTF does a donor list have to do with government programs and spending?

 

[Reasonable]

Should there be more funding, or is true that the program is fully funded and doesn't need additional funding?

House GOP refuses to boost funding for election security

House Republicans are refusing to provide additional funding for state election security grants in a spending bill despite the move upsetting Democrats pointing at Russia's election interference.

Democrats want to continue funding the grants program to help states boost security for their voting systems, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Republicans, however, argue that the program, which is overseen by the federal Election Assistance Commission, is fully funded and does not need the additional allocations.

When there’s cheating involved republicans win. No surprise why they don’t want election security.
Voter suppression, gerrymandering, Putin with his finger on the scale.... Republicans can’t win if there are fair US elections.

 

[Norman]

Should there be more funding, or is true that the program is fully funded and doesn't need additional funding?

House GOP refuses to boost funding for election security

House Republicans are refusing to provide additional funding for state election security grants in a spending bill despite the move upsetting Democrats pointing at Russia's election interference.

Democrats want to continue funding the grants program to help states boost security for their voting systems, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Republicans, however, argue that the program, which is overseen by the federal Election Assistance Commission, is fully funded and does not need the additional allocations.

I thought that the election CAN'T be hacked. Obama told me that, CNN told me that, the democrats told me that...

 

[MarcATL]

WTF does a donor list have to do with government programs and spending?

Republicans love to throw money at every problem. That's all they've been doing for decades upon decades.

Stupit.

 

[S.J.]

If Ginsburg finds novichock in her tea, I expect you rubes to cheer Russia’s victory.

Novichock?

Forget Novichock...... TIME, my friend....TIME.

She won't croak early the way Scalia did.

You mean she won't be found with a pillow over her head?

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Should there be more funding, or is true that the program is fully funded and doesn't need additional funding?

House GOP refuses to boost funding for election security

House Republicans are refusing to provide additional funding for state election security grants in a spending bill despite the move upsetting Democrats pointing at Russia's election interference.

Democrats want to continue funding the grants program to help states boost security for their voting systems, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Republicans, however, argue that the program, which is overseen by the federal Election Assistance Commission, is fully funded and does not need the additional allocations.

The responsibily for voting secutity is the STATES not the Federal Gov, they get involved it will be a new opening for intervention and screwing up something. BAD idea.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I thought our results couldnt be hacked? If they cant, then whats the point?
Or was our previous administration lying?

Anything that operates on code can be hacked. Anybody that says otherwise is either ignorant or lying. I'm not saying Russia hacked the election, but what I did say is true.

Anything operating on code connected to the internet can be hacked. Don't hook anything to the internet, no problem!