House Dem Caucus votes to reject tax compromise

[WillowTree]

First Read - House Dem Caucus votes to reject tax compromise

From NBC's Luke Russert


In a non-binding vote Thursday, the House Democratic Caucus voted to reject the president's tax compromise.

This is significant in the sense that it shows how many House Democrats are angry about the compromise with Republicans to temporarily extend the cuts for the highest earners, but it is not binding in regards to legislation that goes to the floor.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, who controls how legislation comes to the House floor, said on Morning Joe today that Democrats need to back the President's deal.

But sources tell NBC News that with enough GOP support, there are enough moderate Democrats and rank and file Democrats to reach 218 in the House.

so does this mean that the dem party is saying no to it's leader? This was the first public comprimise and the dems in Congress are pissed?

*sigh*

So much for bipartisanly fucking us all over at the same time.

This is going to end badly for all of us.

It's like the talking heads on Fox say. "the dems gotta have time to sweeten the deal and load the bill up with pork" The Republicans will then decide not to vote Yay. they will change to Nay. The Tea Party has already sent Republicans some warning shots.

 

[MaggieMae]

The majority of American voters elected President Obama. 53%. The idea was a change from the wealth of the top 2% increasing at 20 times as that of the rest of the nation. We now have an economic situation in which we are stil on the brink of a Depression. There has never been, in the history of this nation, a greater disparity in wealth between the workers and the wealthy.

If we defund the government, as the Conservatives seem so desirous of doing, we will go down as in '29. And there will be neither left nor right of center.

This is what we get when people beleive the hype.

Who said "defund the government"? I would love a link that has a quote in it from a leading conservative or republican.

The desparity in wealth whine is not just class warfare, it's class envy. Libs[as a group] can't stand successfull people, so they demand that big daddy gubmit come and make them poor. That will be a lesson to anyone that wants to be rich

I can't fathom where this broken mentallity comes from.

That's always been the biggest pile of elephant shit ever used as a talking point. It seems like a good one when people like you have exhausted all reasonable points with which to justify your positions. If poor people hated rich people, they'd also hate Barack Obama, whose income would also take a hit if there were a tax hike. Do you blathermouths ever actually THINK THROUGH what you say? I realize you desperately try to outmaneuver other members of your herd who post here by making such clever assertions, but you really come across as just being fucking ignorant.

 

[rightwinger]

First Read - House Dem Caucus votes to reject tax compromise

From NBC's Luke Russert


In a non-binding vote Thursday, the House Democratic Caucus voted to reject the president's tax compromise.

This is significant in the sense that it shows how many House Democrats are angry about the compromise with Republicans to temporarily extend the cuts for the highest earners, but it is not binding in regards to legislation that goes to the floor.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, who controls how legislation comes to the House floor, said on Morning Joe today that Democrats need to back the President's deal.

But sources tell NBC News that with enough GOP support, there are enough moderate Democrats and rank and file Democrats to reach 218 in the House.

so does this mean that the dem party is saying no to it's leader? This was the first public comprimise and the dems in Congress are pissed?

*sigh*

So much for bipartisanly fucking us all over at the same time.

This is going to end badly for all of us.

Wow! Obama has no spine, but it appears that some of the other Dems do. Awesome! Let the GOP keep demanding extending Bush's unfunded tax cuts for the rich and see how far that gets them in 2012, when their tactics end up raising taxes for everyone. Good show!

Republicans already voted down tax cuts for everyone making less than $1million a year

Let them defend it to the middle class

 

[Stephanie]

LOL, way to go Democrats. keep it up.

2012 here we come..

And don't forget FOLKS, the Obama was AGAINST EXTENDING the Bush tax cuts for ALL AMERCIANS, BEFORE he WAS FOR IT.

Vote his ass out also along with the rest of the PROGRESSIVE-COMMIES in 2012.

 

[MaggieMae]

It's obvious to everyone, the Republican's hope to reward the wealthiest Americans, and, blame the president for an increase in the debt.

It obvious to evryone that the Dems hope to punish the wealthiest Americans and then blame the GOP for the resulting tanking of the economy. Politics as usual for the Dems.

The Dems -will- renew the whole tax cut. Eat it and smile.

Ironically, the opposite will happen. Being a veteran of political ploys, I can guarantee that Republicans will try to blame the Democrats for "increasing the deficit by ANOTHER $700 billion." <-- That will be their talking point, just letting it hang there to smell, and the Idiot Brigade will latch onto those few words, without remembering how it was a compromise deal, and voila! Before you know it Beck & Co. will be off and running with it no later than the end of January.

In fact, I think a lot of what the liberals are voicing this week since the compromise was reached has to do with that very real probability, and they want the public to HEAR their objections, engage in an internal party debate, just so there hopefully will be instant recall in the minds of the public when the Republicans start in with their bogus propaganda.

 

[Sallow]

My prediction.

This will pass the house. Demint will filibuster this and kick it down the road.

 

[Meister]

Both parties are so polarized they just can't bring themselves to compromise......on anything. I'm guessing this is the way it will be until America can find a true uniter. Obama hasn't been for 2 years, and is now considered damaged goods when he tried. go figure.....

 

[Cuyo]

First Read - House Dem Caucus votes to reject tax compromise

From NBC's Luke Russert


In a non-binding vote Thursday, the House Democratic Caucus voted to reject the president's tax compromise.

This is significant in the sense that it shows how many House Democrats are angry about the compromise with Republicans to temporarily extend the cuts for the highest earners, but it is not binding in regards to legislation that goes to the floor.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, who controls how legislation comes to the House floor, said on Morning Joe today that Democrats need to back the President's deal.

But sources tell NBC News that with enough GOP support, there are enough moderate Democrats and rank and file Democrats to reach 218 in the House.

so does this mean that the dem party is saying no to it's leader? This was the first public comprimise and the dems in Congress are pissed?

*sigh*

So much for bipartisanly fucking us all over at the same time.

This is going to end badly for all of us.

Wow! Obama has no spine, but it appears that some of the other Dems do. Awesome! Let the GOP keep demanding extending Bush's unfunded tax cuts for the rich and see how far that gets them in 2012, when their tactics end up raising taxes for everyone. Good show!

Yeah!! As long as it makes the R's look bad who cares!!! Fuck the economy!!!!

Yes, which is actually why the economy is currently burgeoning after 10 years of the Bush tax cuts! And why it did so poorly under Clinton, who had the same tax rates we're flirting with returning to! Wait....

 

[Sallow]

It's obvious to everyone, the Republican's hope to reward the wealthiest Americans, and, blame the president for an increase in the debt.

It obvious to evryone that the Dems hope to punish the wealthiest Americans and then blame the GOP for the resulting tanking of the economy. Politics as usual for the Dems.

The Dems -will- renew the whole tax cut. Eat it and smile.

Ironically, the opposite will happen. Being a veteran of political ploys, I can guarantee that Republicans will try to blame the Democrats for "increasing the deficit by ANOTHER $700 billion." <-- That will be their talking point, just letting it hang there to smell, and the Idiot Brigade will latch onto those few words, without remembering how it was a compromise deal, and voila! Before you know it Beck & Co. will be off and running with it no later than the end of January.

In fact, I think a lot of what the liberals are voicing this week since the compromise was reached has to do with that very real probability, and they want the public to HEAR their objections, engage in an internal party debate, just so there hopefully will be instant recall in the minds of the public when the Republicans start in with their bogus propaganda.

That and they will start again with the BS about the Military sacred cows.."entitlements" and the rest of it.

In reality..they are not serious about deficits..they prove this over and over again.

What they are serious about is corporatism. It's kinda like when the Roman congress voted to make Ceasar all powerful. They want the wealth and power but no responsibility.

 

[NYcarbineer]

According the the story its a non-binding vote.

Here's hoping smarter heads prevail.

I don't like whats being added to the deficit with the Rep/Obama bill.

I would like it even less if business owners making $250,00 or more were taxed. Thats a no win. Who the hell is going to hire or expand if they have to pay higher taxes?? I sure wouldn't.

No one knows how that clusterfuck of a HC bill is going to affect business either. Too bad that peice of shit doesn't blow away.

If business didn't have to worry about their taxes going up or the cost of Obamacare I think you would see the economy take off like a freight train.

Hiring isn't taxable.

 

[Jeremy]

Wow! Obama has no spine, but it appears that some of the other Dems do. Awesome! Let the GOP keep demanding extending Bush's unfunded tax cuts for the rich and see how far that gets them in 2012, when their tactics end up raising taxes for everyone. Good show!

Yeah!! As long as it makes the R's look bad who cares!!! Fuck the economy!!!!

Yes, which is actually why the economy is currently burgeoning after 10 years of the Bush tax cuts! And why it did so poorly under Clinton, who had the same tax rates we're flirting with returning to! Wait....

The tax cuts were originally enacted in 2001 and 2003 - let's see what happened from then until the housing bubble burst shall we.....?

Suitably Flip: It's Official: Bush Economy Achieves Longest Period Of Job Creation On Record

At 49 months..., the Bush streak now stands alone as the longest unbroken period of job creation since we started tracking it in 1939.

Oops.

 

[MaggieMae]

It's obvious to everyone, the Republican's hope to reward the wealthiest Americans, and, blame the president for an increase in the debt.
It's politics as usual for the R's, they will exploit the anger of the 'tea party', yet will not make the changes promised. Already Michelle Bachman (R-MN) is working to establish a new way to provide earmarks.

It's also blatant the dems hate people that earn a very good living.

what do we call this unfounded hate based of ignorance?

racism is taken

richism, classism, dumbassism?

oh, I know

demism, the hatred of everything that's not dem. sweet.

 

[WillowTree]

It's obvious to everyone, the Republican's hope to reward the wealthiest Americans, and, blame the president for an increase in the debt.
It's politics as usual for the R's, they will exploit the anger of the 'tea party', yet will not make the changes promised. Already Michelle Bachman (R-MN) is working to establish a new way to provide earmarks.

It's also blatant the dems hate people that earn a very good living.

what do we call this unfounded hate based of ignorance?

racism is taken

richism, classism, dumbassism?

oh, I know

demism, the hatred of everything that's not dem. sweet.

Well you dems have dummy all wrapped up with a bow. So that leaves 6.

 

[MaggieMae]

It's also blatant the dems hate people that earn a very good living.
what do we call this unfounded hate based of ignorance?
racism is taken
richism, classism, dumbassism?
oh, I know
demism, the hatred of everything that's not dem. sweet.

Dumbassery? Assclownery?
Oh - I have it:
Jealousy.

While Jealousy is very accurate, we need something that ends in ism or ist. Other wise it's not an unrational hatred of something.

Every time we disagree with big 0 it's racism or your a racist. So in the name of 'fairness' we should apply the same rules

The only time racism or racist was mentioned in this thread was by you. I guess that would make you a Fauxist who practices Limbechism.

 

[MaggieMae]

As a conservative I am happy as a clam the dems did this.
Whether it is symbolic or not is immaterial.
The American people will see the dems as a tax increasing party controlled by the far left wing.
This all but insures more seats for conservative candidates in 2012.
THANKS!!!
Especially you Bawney Fwank.

Ah, and so it begins. The right wing propaganda machine already plotting to blame it ALL on the Dems. Unfortunately, unless you plan to kill off all of us who know the TRUTH, you will go down in flames as the lying bastards you've always been. Hopefully next time your party lies in ashes it stays there a while.

 

[Cuyo]

Yeah!! As long as it makes the R's look bad who cares!!! Fuck the economy!!!!

Yes, which is actually why the economy is currently burgeoning after 10 years of the Bush tax cuts! And why it did so poorly under Clinton, who had the same tax rates we're flirting with returning to! Wait....

The tax cuts were originally enacted in 2001 and 2003 - let's see what happened from then until the housing bubble burst shall we.....?

Suitably Flip: It's Official: Bush Economy Achieves Longest Period Of Job Creation On Record

At 49 months..., the Bush streak now stands alone as the longest unbroken period of job creation since we started tracking it in 1939.

Oops.

So again, you acknowledge that the economy has a lot more contributing factors than just "What's the tax rate" and "Which party is in power." But for conservatives, that sentiment only seems to hold true when the economy tanks under conservatives. When it does poorly under Democrats, it's always the democrat's fault?

Why did the housing bubble bring the economy to it's knees? The low tax rates which have been in force all along should have kept things afloat... No?

 

[Jeremy]

Dumbassery? Assclownery?
Oh - I have it:
Jealousy.

While Jealousy is very accurate, we need something that ends in ism or ist. Other wise it's not an unrational hatred of something.

Every time we disagree with big 0 it's racism or your a racist. So in the name of 'fairness' we should apply the same rules

The only time racism or racist was mentioned in this thread was by you. I guess that would make you a Fauxist who practices Limbechism.

What's wrong with leprechaunism?

 

[MaggieMae]

Fine... reject it...

Either bring it back where the cost of the expanded UI benefits are taken care of by reducing funding to some bullshit program or entitlement... and then send it back across...... or, keep having the house screw around like this and watch 2012 become a fucking bloodbath with DEM politician carcasses left all over the place

Good observation. Not only did the dems demonstrate aloofness to working people, but also gave a big fat Wyoming Saluteup_yours to those who's UI benefits are about to run out.

Are you stoned or just stupid? Just the opposite happened.

 

[MaggieMae]

First Read - House Dem Caucus votes to reject tax compromise

From NBC's Luke Russert


In a non-binding vote Thursday, the House Democratic Caucus voted to reject the president's tax compromise.

This is significant in the sense that it shows how many House Democrats are angry about the compromise with Republicans to temporarily extend the cuts for the highest earners, but it is not binding in regards to legislation that goes to the floor.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, who controls how legislation comes to the House floor, said on Morning Joe today that Democrats need to back the President's deal.

But sources tell NBC News that with enough GOP support, there are enough moderate Democrats and rank and file Democrats to reach 218 in the House.

so does this mean that the dem party is saying no to it's leader? This was the first public comprimise and the dems in Congress are pissed?

*sigh*

So much for bipartisanly fucking us all over at the same time.

This is going to end badly for all of us.

Wow! Obama has no spine, but it appears that some of the other Dems do. Awesome! Let the GOP keep demanding extending Bush's unfunded tax cuts for the rich and see how far that gets them in 2012, when their tactics end up raising taxes for everyone. Good show!

Yeah!! As long as it makes the R's look bad who cares!!! Fuck the economy!!!!

Oh the irony. That's what has happened in reverse for two solid years now. Fucking hypocrites, the whole ignorant lot of you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yeah!! As long as it makes the R's look bad who cares!!! Fuck the economy!!!!

Yes, which is actually why the economy is currently burgeoning after 10 years of the Bush tax cuts! And why it did so poorly under Clinton, who had the same tax rates we're flirting with returning to! Wait....

The tax cuts were originally enacted in 2001 and 2003 - let's see what happened from then until the housing bubble burst shall we.....?

Suitably Flip: It's Official: Bush Economy Achieves Longest Period Of Job Creation On Record

At 49 months..., the Bush streak now stands alone as the longest unbroken period of job creation since we started tracking it in 1939.

Oops.

Are you posting that for the benefit of all the wingnuts around here who insist that the government doesn't create jobs? lol