House Dem Caucus votes to reject tax compromise

[Two Thumbs]

The majority of American voters elected President Obama. 53%. The idea was a change from the wealth of the top 2% increasing at 20 times as that of the rest of the nation. We now have an economic situation in which we are stil on the brink of a Depression. There has never been, in the history of this nation, a greater disparity in wealth between the workers and the wealthy.

If we defund the government, as the Conservatives seem so desirous of doing, we will go down as in '29. And there will be neither left nor right of center.

This is what we get when people beleive the hype.

Who said "defund the government"? I would love a link that has a quote in it from a leading conservative or republican.

The desparity in wealth whine is not just class warfare, it's class envy. Libs[as a group] can't stand successfull people, so they demand that big daddy gubmit come and make them poor. That will be a lesson to anyone that wants to be rich

I can't fathom where this broken mentallity comes from.

 

[Wry Catcher]

It's obvious to everyone, the Republican's hope to reward the wealthiest Americans, and, blame the president for an increase in the debt.
It's politics as usual for the R's, they will exploit the anger of the 'tea party', yet will not make the changes promised. Already Michelle Bachman (R-MN) is working to establish a new way to provide earmarks.

 

[8537]

This is a real mess for Barry. Dims are threatening to revolt here and, if they do, he comes off looking like the village idiot. If you recall his press conference to explain the deal...why he did it, what his choices were, best to take now what he could get as opposed to a worse deal in the new congress next month, and so on. So if they follow through he's got his fellow Dimocrats telling the whole world what a lousy negotiator he is. That's rather unprecedented as far as I can recall.

Who knew hope and change would turn out to be such a beautiful thing!

It's not really unprecedented at all. In fact, it smell an awful lot like 1995 when Clinton triangulated the parties.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's obvious to everyone, the Republican's hope to reward the wealthiest Americans, and, blame the president for an increase in the debt.

It obvious to evryone that the Dems hope to punish the wealthiest Americans and then blame the GOP for the resulting tanking of the economy. Politics as usual for the Dems.

The Dems -will- renew the whole tax cut. Eat it and smile.

 

[Two Thumbs]

It's obvious to everyone, the Republican's hope to reward the wealthiest Americans, and, blame the president for an increase in the debt.
It's politics as usual for the R's, they will exploit the anger of the 'tea party', yet will not make the changes promised. Already Michelle Bachman (R-MN) is working to establish a new way to provide earmarks.

It's also blatant the dems hate people that earn a very good living.

what do we call this unfounded hate based of ignorance?

racism is taken

richism, classism, dumbassism?

oh, I know

demism, the hatred of everything that's not dem. sweet.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

This is a real mess for Barry. Dims are threatening to revolt here and, if they do, he comes off looking like the village idiot. If you recall his press conference to explain the deal...why he did it, what his choices were, best to take now what he could get as opposed to a worse deal in the new congress next month, and so on. So if they follow through he's got his fellow Dimocrats telling the whole world what a lousy negotiator he is. That's rather unprecedented as far as I can recall.

Who knew hope and change would turn out to be such a beautiful thing!

I have to agree with you. He actually bypassed his own Party on this one. He went straight to the Republicans for negotiations. That is a bit unprecedented. He really has stirred up the far Left nutters in his party. It's great entertainment though. They really are eating their own. The Dems will fold eventually though. They'll vote for this in the end. That's my prediction.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's also blatant the dems hate people that earn a very good living.
what do we call this unfounded hate based of ignorance?
racism is taken
richism, classism, dumbassism?
oh, I know
demism, the hatred of everything that's not dem. sweet.

Dumbassery? Assclownery?
Oh - I have it:
Jealousy.

 

[Two Thumbs]

It's also blatant the dems hate people that earn a very good living.
what do we call this unfounded hate based of ignorance?
racism is taken
richism, classism, dumbassism?
oh, I know
demism, the hatred of everything that's not dem. sweet.

Dumbassery? Assclownery?
Oh - I have it:
Jealousy.

While Jealousy is very accurate, we need something that ends in ism or ist. Other wise it's not an unrational hatred of something.

Every time we disagree with big 0 it's racism or your a racist. So in the name of 'fairness' we should apply the same rules

 

[M14 Shooter]

While Jealousy is very accurate, we need something that ends in ism or ist. Other wise it's not an unrational hatred of something.

Every time we disagree with big 0 it's racism or your a racist. So in the name of 'fairness' we should apply the same rules

WishIhadasmuchastheydo-ism.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Politicians and especially Presidents often do what's best for themselves and not their Country or Party. This a good lesson for all the naive sheep out there.

 

[thereisnospoon]

As a conservative I am happy as a clam the dems did this.
Whether it is symbolic or not is immaterial.
The American people will see the dems as a tax increasing party controlled by the far left wing.
This all but insures more seats for conservative candidates in 2012.
THANKS!!!
Especially you Bawney Fwank.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Fine... reject it...

Either bring it back where the cost of the expanded UI benefits are taken care of by reducing funding to some bullshit program or entitlement... and then send it back across...... or, keep having the house screw around like this and watch 2012 become a fucking bloodbath with DEM politician carcasses left all over the place

Good observation. Not only did the dems demonstrate aloofness to working people, but also gave a big fat Wyoming Saluteup_yours to those who's UI benefits are about to run out.

 

[VaYank5150]

First Read - House Dem Caucus votes to reject tax compromise

From NBC's Luke Russert


In a non-binding vote Thursday, the House Democratic Caucus voted to reject the president's tax compromise.

This is significant in the sense that it shows how many House Democrats are angry about the compromise with Republicans to temporarily extend the cuts for the highest earners, but it is not binding in regards to legislation that goes to the floor.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, who controls how legislation comes to the House floor, said on Morning Joe today that Democrats need to back the President's deal.

But sources tell NBC News that with enough GOP support, there are enough moderate Democrats and rank and file Democrats to reach 218 in the House.

so does this mean that the dem party is saying no to it's leader? This was the first public comprimise and the dems in Congress are pissed?

*sigh*

So much for bipartisanly fucking us all over at the same time.

This is going to end badly for all of us.

Wow! Obama has no spine, but it appears that some of the other Dems do. Awesome! Let the GOP keep demanding extending Bush's unfunded tax cuts for the rich and see how far that gets them in 2012, when their tactics end up raising taxes for everyone. Good show!

 

[Jeremy]

First Read - House Dem Caucus votes to reject tax compromise

From NBC's Luke Russert


In a non-binding vote Thursday, the House Democratic Caucus voted to reject the president's tax compromise.

This is significant in the sense that it shows how many House Democrats are angry about the compromise with Republicans to temporarily extend the cuts for the highest earners, but it is not binding in regards to legislation that goes to the floor.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, who controls how legislation comes to the House floor, said on Morning Joe today that Democrats need to back the President's deal.

But sources tell NBC News that with enough GOP support, there are enough moderate Democrats and rank and file Democrats to reach 218 in the House.

so does this mean that the dem party is saying no to it's leader? This was the first public comprimise and the dems in Congress are pissed?

*sigh*

So much for bipartisanly fucking us all over at the same time.

This is going to end badly for all of us.

Wow! Obama has no spine, but it appears that some of the other Dems do. Awesome! Let the GOP keep demanding extending Bush's unfunded tax cuts for the rich and see how far that gets them in 2012, when their tactics end up raising taxes for everyone. Good show!

Yeah!! As long as it makes the R's look bad who cares!!! Fuck the economy!!!!

 

[M14 Shooter]

Wow! Obama has no spine, but it appears that some of the other Dems do. Awesome! Let the GOP keep demanding extending Bush's unfunded tax cuts for the rich...

Given that a tax cut is letting people keep their own money, how exactly, do you 'fund' one?

 

[Two Thumbs]

First Read - House Dem Caucus votes to reject tax compromise

From NBC's Luke Russert


In a non-binding vote Thursday, the House Democratic Caucus voted to reject the president's tax compromise.

This is significant in the sense that it shows how many House Democrats are angry about the compromise with Republicans to temporarily extend the cuts for the highest earners, but it is not binding in regards to legislation that goes to the floor.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, who controls how legislation comes to the House floor, said on Morning Joe today that Democrats need to back the President's deal.

But sources tell NBC News that with enough GOP support, there are enough moderate Democrats and rank and file Democrats to reach 218 in the House.

so does this mean that the dem party is saying no to it's leader? This was the first public comprimise and the dems in Congress are pissed?

*sigh*

So much for bipartisanly fucking us all over at the same time.

This is going to end badly for all of us.

Wow! Obama has no spine, but it appears that some of the other Dems do. Awesome! Let the GOP keep demanding extending Bush's unfunded tax cuts for the rich and see how far that gets them in 2012, when their tactics end up raising taxes for everyone. Good show!

Yeah!! As long as it makes the R's look bad who cares!!! Fuck the economy!!!!

The economy is so over rated anyway. Who needs money when you can turn to cannibalism?

 

[M14 Shooter]

How, exactly, do the Dems expect the working/middle class to afford their tax hike?

Still wondering...?

 

[SwordofDamocles]

Fine... reject it...

Either bring it back where the cost of the expanded UI benefits are taken care of by reducing funding to some bullshit program or entitlement... and then send it back across...... or, keep having the house screw around like this and watch 2012 become a fucking bloodbath with DEM politician carcasses left all over the place

Now that, I'd pay to see. I'll bring the popcorn.

 

[MaggieMae]

This is a real mess for Barry. Dims are threatening to revolt here and, if they do, he comes off looking like the village idiot. If you recall his press conference to explain the deal...why he did it, what his choices were, best to take now what he could get as opposed to a worse deal in the new congress next month, and so on. So if they follow through he's got his fellow Dimocrats telling the whole world what a lousy negotiator he is. That's rather unprecedented as far as I can recall.

Who knew hope and change would turn out to be such a beautiful thing!

Then you don't know much about the Democratic Party. They've always had three distinct clubs: The Blue Dogs (conservatives), the Liberals (far left), and the Centrists (moderates). Each makes itself heard during major policy reform when Democrats are the MAJORITY. When they're in the minority, they tend to become one under any circumstance. The current in-party debate among Democrats is no shocking revelation.

 

[MaggieMae]

How, exactly, do the Dems expect the working/middle class to afford their tax hike?

What tax hike? If this bill gets spoiled, taxes remain the same for everyone. The only "tax hike" was (past tense) the proposed hike on individuals earning more than $200K/$250K from 35% to 39%, and that isn't going to happen now at least for the next two years. Those aren't "middle-class" earnings.