Hospitals Must Post All Prices Online Starting January 1

[Weatherman2020]

THINGS THAT NEVER HAPPENED UNDER OBAMA PART 3,693:

Hospitals required to post all prices online beginning January 1.

“Seema Verma, head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said the new requirement for online prices reflects the Trump administration’s ongoing efforts to encourage patients to become better-educated decision makers in their own care.”

Imagine that.

Electronic medical records have been easy to get for the past 5 years. Read the article "Standard Prices" in other words a best estimate. Imaging will probably be on the money but everything else I doubt it.

It’s been easy to get?

Ok, how much does an appendectomy cost at Retreat Hospital in Richmond VA?

I’ll wait here since it’s easy.

You are one dumb fuck or just can't read I never said it was easy to get to get the prices I said it has been easy to get your electronic medical records for about 5 years. BTW most insurance companies if you have your policy with them have had online tools or a department you can call and ask I am having this procedure done at such and such hospital what are my approximate costs? Sometimes they will ask for the code and most insurance companies can come in pretty close to the price before you have the procedure.

Not my fault you violate USMB rules and change topics of the thread.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Our hospitals dont have to post their prices. We know what it is going to cost us when we go in.
Fuck all.

And you can have it too

Income Tax rates and Personal Allowances

Band Taxable income Tax rate
Personal Allowance Up to £11,850 0%
Basic rate £11,851 to £46,350 20%
Higher rate £46,351 to £150,000 40%
Additional rate over £150,000 45%

 

[debbiedowner]

THINGS THAT NEVER HAPPENED UNDER OBAMA PART 3,693:

Hospitals required to post all prices online beginning January 1.

“Seema Verma, head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said the new requirement for online prices reflects the Trump administration’s ongoing efforts to encourage patients to become better-educated decision makers in their own care.”

Imagine that.

Electronic medical records have been easy to get for the past 5 years. Read the article "Standard Prices" in other words a best estimate. Imaging will probably be on the money but everything else I doubt it.

It’s been easy to get?

Ok, how much does an appendectomy cost at Retreat Hospital in Richmond VA?

I’ll wait here since it’s easy.

You are one dumb fuck or just can't read I never said it was easy to get to get the prices I said it has been easy to get your electronic medical records for about 5 years. BTW most insurance companies if you have your policy with them have had online tools or a department you can call and ask I am having this procedure done at such and such hospital what are my approximate costs? Sometimes they will ask for the code and most insurance companies can come in pretty close to the price before you have the procedure.

Not my fault you violate USMB rules and change topics of the thread.

Yep, this post does tell me you're a dumb fuck. Read your own article and tell me where I changed the topic. Goddamn go back to school or jump off a cliff if you are going to dispute your own article.

Here I will help you out since you cannot seem to read to good: From the first paragraph

Medicare will require hospitals to post their standard prices online and make electronic medical records more readily available to patients, officials said Tuesday.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Good start but I think it will still be terribly confusing

What a patient needs to know is.....

Your procedure and hospital stay will cost $100,000
Your insurance will pay $80,000
You will be responsible for $20,000

Then have the patient be given options to get their copay down

That is chilling.

 

[rightwinger]

Good start but I think it will still be terribly confusing

What a patient needs to know is.....

Your procedure and hospital stay will cost $100,000
Your insurance will pay $80,000
You will be responsible for $20,000

Then have the patient be given options to get their copay down

That is chilling.

That is American healthcare

A major illness will wipe out your savings

 

[longknife]

There are two prices for medical care in the USA.
One is what it costs through private and government insurance
The other is what you pay for in cash.

 

[dblack]

I don't understand how this is supposed to improve things. The reason doctors and hospitals aren't transparent with their prices is that almost no one cares, because almost no one is paying their own health care bills. If someone else is picking up the bill, I'll choose the most expensive option every time. When it comes to something like health care, any sane person would do the same.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Already, under Obamacare, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services issued guidelines for hospitals to list the price of standard procedures. Those have been in place since 2014, but they give hospitals some wiggle room. They could post their charges online, or supply them only if patients and their families requested them.

Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Require price transparency from health care providers

Feel free to link to a Richmond VA hospital prices for an appendectomy then.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I don't understand how this is supposed to improve things. The reason doctors and hospitals aren't transparent with their prices is that almost no one cares, because almost no one is paying their own health care bills. If someone else is picking up the bill, I'll choose the most expensive option every time. When it comes to something like health care, any sane person would do the same.

Most people pay a percentage of the bill. Crawl out of your bubble world.

 

[dblack]

I don't understand how this is supposed to improve things. The reason doctors and hospitals aren't transparent with their prices is that almost no one cares, because almost no one is paying their own health care bills. If someone else is picking up the bill, I'll choose the most expensive option every time. When it comes to something like health care, any sane person would do the same.

Most people pay a percentage of the bill. Crawl out of your bubble world.

Crawl out of yours. The patient's financial responsibility is usually a fixed co-pay or deductible. Even when patients do pay a percentage, it's a relatively small amount. For most of us, once the deductible is met, there's very little incentive to pinch pennies - it's mostly someone else's money and there's very little reason to risk your own health looking for cheaper alternatives.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I don't understand how this is supposed to improve things. The reason doctors and hospitals aren't transparent with their prices is that almost no one cares, because almost no one is paying their own health care bills. If someone else is picking up the bill, I'll choose the most expensive option every time. When it comes to something like health care, any sane person would do the same.

Most people pay a percentage of the bill. Crawl out of your bubble world.

Crawl out of yours. Usually it's a fixed co-pay or deductible. Even when patients do pay a percentage, it's a relatively small amount. Once your deductible is met, there's very little incentive to pinch pennies - it's mostly someone else's money and there's very little reason to risk your own health looking for cheaper alternatives.

You are truly ignorant.

 

[dblack]

I don't understand how this is supposed to improve things. The reason doctors and hospitals aren't transparent with their prices is that almost no one cares, because almost no one is paying their own health care bills. If someone else is picking up the bill, I'll choose the most expensive option every time. When it comes to something like health care, any sane person would do the same.

Most people pay a percentage of the bill. Crawl out of your bubble world.

Crawl out of yours. Usually it's a fixed co-pay or deductible. Even when patients do pay a percentage, it's a relatively small amount. Once your deductible is met, there's very little incentive to pinch pennies - it's mostly someone else's money and there's very little reason to risk your own health looking for cheaper alternatives.

You are truly ignorant.

Good answer, good answer!

 

[dblack]

I don't understand how this is supposed to improve things. The reason doctors and hospitals aren't transparent with their prices is that almost no one cares, because almost no one is paying their own health care bills. If someone else is picking up the bill, I'll choose the most expensive option every time. When it comes to something like health care, any sane person would do the same.

Most people pay a percentage of the bill. Crawl out of your bubble world.

Crawl out of yours. Usually it's a fixed co-pay or deductible. Even when patients do pay a percentage, it's a relatively small amount. Once your deductible is met, there's very little incentive to pinch pennies - it's mostly someone else's money and there's very little reason to risk your own health looking for cheaper alternatives.

You are truly ignorant.

What I'm describing is a real problem. Ostriching up won't make it go away.

 

[rightwinger]

There are two prices for medical care in the USA.
One is what it costs through private and government insurance
The other is what you pay for in cash.

What you pay in cash is significantly higher

Most places give a cash discount

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Good start but I think it will still be terribly confusing

What a patient needs to know is.....

Your procedure and hospital stay will cost $100,000
Your insurance will pay $80,000
You will be responsible for $20,000

Then have the patient be given options to get their copay down

That is chilling.

That is American healthcare

A major illness will wipe out your savings

Ive been looking back at my relationship with the NHS.


Age 3 - concussion from butting the wall jumping from bed to bed.


Age 4 - A and E for sticking a dried pea up my nose. It expanded a day or so later and the flow of blood concerned my Mam.

Age 9 - concussion , went arse over tit on an ice slide in school. Kept in overnight.


Various injections by the school nurse.


Age 14 - trod on a rusty nail, given tetanus shots in the A and E


Age 16 - concussion. Split the back of my head open in school when rocking back and too on my chair. Passed out en route to the hospital and kept in overnight.


Age 17 - fell over running for last orders in the pub. Dislocated shoulder. Kept in overnight and various physio sessions and x rays.


Dislocated shoulder on 3 further occasions.


Age 22 - minor op on big toe after toenail wedged in after an altercation in town. Further op on ingrowing toenail a few years later.


Age 23 - Caught the clap in Magalluf - Nothing more to say.


Age 30 - diagnosed diabetic - free drugs,free eye tests, free chiropody till I die. I also get free drugs for non diabetic ailments. I get regular clinic appointments to heck up on me as well.


Age 35 - Mrs T ordered me in for the snip. Same day surgery. All sorted,no problem.

Age 40 - Torn ankle ligaments - operation and rehab including physio

Age 50 ish - triple fracture of ankle, months of treatment followed by physio and hydrotherapy. The specialist told me that it was an unusual case and that he had a 3 way conference with other specialists to agree the treatment needed.


None of these cost me ,or my parents, a penny. I dont think that is a long list and I havent included the minor visits to a GP for upset stomachs and so on.

Having to pay for that,lose my savings or my house, just seems obscene. A lifetime of care for a few quid in taxes.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I don't understand how this is supposed to improve things. The reason doctors and hospitals aren't transparent with their prices is that almost no one cares, because almost no one is paying their own health care bills. If someone else is picking up the bill, I'll choose the most expensive option every time. When it comes to something like health care, any sane person would do the same.

Most people pay a percentage of the bill. Crawl out of your bubble world.

Crawl out of yours. Usually it's a fixed co-pay or deductible. Even when patients do pay a percentage, it's a relatively small amount. Once your deductible is met, there's very little incentive to pinch pennies - it's mostly someone else's money and there's very little reason to risk your own health looking for cheaper alternatives.

You are truly ignorant.

He's correct. You seem to be ignorant of basic economics.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

None of these cost me ,or my parents, a penny.

That is absolutely false. You and they have paid for it every single year through the exorbitant income tax rates I posted earlier, not to mention all the other taxes we haven't even talked about, like your 20% VAT.

 

[sparky]

and rome burns on.......~S~

 

[Tommy Tainant]

None of these cost me ,or my parents, a penny.

That is absolutely false. You and they have paid for it every single year through the exorbitant income tax rates I posted earlier, not to mention all the other taxes we haven't even talked about, like your 20% VAT.

Well I think that I would have been bankrupt if I had these problems in the US. Its difficult to measure levels of taxation between the two countries but I am happy with my tax level because it supports the NHS.