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Hospital Won't Back Obama Birth Claim
Honolulu's Kapi'olani Medical Center refuses to confirm White House letter


Posted: July 06, 2009
9:26 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

The hospital in Hawaii where Barack Obama claims he was born refuses to produce any documentation – or even confirm the claim – without permission of the president himself.

The Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu has posted on its website a letter on White House stationery dated Jan. 24 in which Obama wrote, "As a beneficiary of the excellence of Kapi'olani Medical Center – the place of my birth – I am pleased to add my voice to your chorus of supporters."

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Kristy Watanabe, the public relations specialist for the hospital refused to confirm or deny the veracity of Obama's letter claiming he was born at the hospital.

"Our comment to everyone who has been calling is that federal law does not permit us to provide any more details concerning information [about Obama's birth] without authorization from Mr. Obama," Watanabe told WND.

She said the hospital had not contacted Obama for authorization.

When WND asked Watanabe why the hospital did not contact Obama to ask for authorization, especially given the number of phone calls the hospital was receiving with the request, Watanabe said: "This is our response, and we can't say anything more than that."

WND asked if a hypothetical elected official pretended to be born at the hospital, would federal law prevent her from disclosing that? If so, which federal law would that be?

"It's just our policy that without permission we don't ever answer questions about babies born in the hospital," she said.

This is not the first time Kapi'olani and other Hawaiian hospitals have slammed the door on WND's attempts to ascertain specifics about Obama's birth.

As reported last month, Kapi'olani declined to return any of at least four WND messages requesting comment, while Queen's Medical Center said in a prepared statement, "Due to patient privacy laws we cannot respond to your inquiries."

A private detective working in conjunction with WND's investigations last year into Obama's birthplace also visited the hospitals.

In a subsequent affidavit, he said the much-publicized online image of what the White House says is Obama's birth certificate doesn't prove any birth location.

"On October 31st, 2008, officials in Hawaii released a statement that they had examined the birth certificate, but failed to declare whether it was a Live Birth Certificate generated by a hospital with signatures of the attending physician or a 'Late Birth' Certificate of Hawaiian Birth that could have been obtained (for a child) who is one year old or older after birth by a simple affirmation of a family member," wrote investigator Jorge L. Baro, of Elite Legal Services in Florida.

"Only the 'Long Form' original certificate will answer all questions about the date and location of birth and confirm that it occurred in Hawaii," he said.

WND reported in the April issue of Whistleblower that Obama's step-grandmother in an interview transcript obtained by WND in Africa has claimed she was present at Obama's birth in Mombasa, Kenya.

WND is in possession of an affidavit submitted by Rev. Kweli Shuhubia, an Anabaptist minister in Kenya, who is the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptist Conference in Kenya, and a second affidavit signed by Bishop Ron McRae, the presiding elder of the Anabaptists' Continental Presbytery of Africa.

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In his affidavit, Shuhubia asserts "it is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., was born in Mombasa, Kenya."

Shuhubia further states in his affidavit that he visited Obama's grandmother at her home in the village of Alego-Kogello, on Oct. 16, 2008, in order to conduct a telephone conference interview that would connect with McRae in the United States.

During the telephone interview, McRae specifically asked Sarah Obama two times, "Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya."

"Both times she specifically replied, 'Yes,'" Shuhubia affirmed in the affidavit.

Hospital won't back Obama birth claim
 
The letter seems a bit suspect to me. Check out the first line in the second paragraph. I don't think the White House would put out correspondence like this. Is this a con job, Pale Rider? I don't believe the President is a true natural born citizen but I also don't think the letter you're tossing around is legit either... Could be just me. You can't snow the snowman.
 
The hospital is not backing the claim but they aren't denying it either. They are simply following the policy they always have. You want to be an ignorant conspiracy theorist, be my guest.

If you and other Republicans/Conservatives/whatever you are focused on the actual issues than BS, you may actually win a election or two.
 
Hey, Pale. Good to see you're up to your old tricks again! :)

Do me a favor. Please call Brooklyn Hospital. (718) 250-8080. Ask them if I was born there. I'll save you the five cents. They'll tell you they can't confirm or deny I was born there (I was) because it's a matter of PRIVATE record. No one can obtain private information about you - social security number, tax returns, DOB, etc. It's called PRIVATE for a reason.
 
So instead of Berry Soetoro saying... "hey everybody out there, I was born in this hospital, and you should all believe me," why doesn't he release his "REAL" birth certificate and "PROVE IT?"

Oh yes... the question no one can answer.
 
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Hospital Won't Back Obama Birth Claim
Honolulu's Kapi'olani Medical Center refuses to confirm White House letter


Posted: July 06, 2009
9:26 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

The hospital in Hawaii where Barack Obama claims he was born refuses to produce any documentation – or even confirm the claim – without permission of the president himself.

The Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu has posted on its website a letter on White House stationery dated Jan. 24 in which Obama wrote, "As a beneficiary of the excellence of Kapi'olani Medical Center – the place of my birth – I am pleased to add my voice to your chorus of supporters."

3698679306_d8b3f7b877_o.jpg


Kristy Watanabe, the public relations specialist for the hospital refused to confirm or deny the veracity of Obama's letter claiming he was born at the hospital.

"Our comment to everyone who has been calling is that federal law does not permit us to provide any more details concerning information [about Obama's birth] without authorization from Mr. Obama," Watanabe told WND.

She said the hospital had not contacted Obama for authorization.

When WND asked Watanabe why the hospital did not contact Obama to ask for authorization, especially given the number of phone calls the hospital was receiving with the request, Watanabe said: "This is our response, and we can't say anything more than that."

WND asked if a hypothetical elected official pretended to be born at the hospital, would federal law prevent her from disclosing that? If so, which federal law would that be?

"It's just our policy that without permission we don't ever answer questions about babies born in the hospital," she said.

This is not the first time Kapi'olani and other Hawaiian hospitals have slammed the door on WND's attempts to ascertain specifics about Obama's birth.

As reported last month, Kapi'olani declined to return any of at least four WND messages requesting comment, while Queen's Medical Center said in a prepared statement, "Due to patient privacy laws we cannot respond to your inquiries."

A private detective working in conjunction with WND's investigations last year into Obama's birthplace also visited the hospitals.

In a subsequent affidavit, he said the much-publicized online image of what the White House says is Obama's birth certificate doesn't prove any birth location.

"On October 31st, 2008, officials in Hawaii released a statement that they had examined the birth certificate, but failed to declare whether it was a Live Birth Certificate generated by a hospital with signatures of the attending physician or a 'Late Birth' Certificate of Hawaiian Birth that could have been obtained (for a child) who is one year old or older after birth by a simple affirmation of a family member," wrote investigator Jorge L. Baro, of Elite Legal Services in Florida.

"Only the 'Long Form' original certificate will answer all questions about the date and location of birth and confirm that it occurred in Hawaii," he said.

WND reported in the April issue of Whistleblower that Obama's step-grandmother in an interview transcript obtained by WND in Africa has claimed she was present at Obama's birth in Mombasa, Kenya.

WND is in possession of an affidavit submitted by Rev. Kweli Shuhubia, an Anabaptist minister in Kenya, who is the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptist Conference in Kenya, and a second affidavit signed by Bishop Ron McRae, the presiding elder of the Anabaptists' Continental Presbytery of Africa.

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join nearly 400,000 others and sign up now!

In his affidavit, Shuhubia asserts "it is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., was born in Mombasa, Kenya."

Shuhubia further states in his affidavit that he visited Obama's grandmother at her home in the village of Alego-Kogello, on Oct. 16, 2008, in order to conduct a telephone conference interview that would connect with McRae in the United States.

During the telephone interview, McRae specifically asked Sarah Obama two times, "Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya."

"Both times she specifically replied, 'Yes,'" Shuhubia affirmed in the affidavit.

Hospital won't back Obama birth claim
For one it would probably a hippa violation if they released his birth certificate which would be considered a medical record most likely.
And why do you guys keep bringing this crap up.
I also do not have my orginal live birth certificate, I wonder how many other people who were born in the US don't either.
 
The letter seems a bit suspect to me. Check out the first line in the second paragraph. I don't think the White House would put out correspondence like this. Is this a con job, Pale Rider? I don't believe the President is a true natural born citizen but I also don't think the letter you're tossing around is legit either... Could be just me. You can't snow the snowman.

The letter is real, his "certificate of live birth" that proves nothing he posted on a couple choice pro obama websites has been proven a forgery.

Don't be an soetoro patsy.
 
For one it would probably a hippa violation if they released his birth certificate which would be considered a medical record most likely.
And why do you guys keep bringing this crap up.
I also do not have my orginal live birth certificate, I wonder how many other people who were born in the US don't either.

I'm sure it would be, but that's not the point. The point is, why doesn't soetoro release his real birth certificate? And that, hun, is NOT CRAP. That's a legitimate question, and neither you nor anyone else that's PRO OBAMA will or can answer it. You'd rather piss on our constitution.
 
So instead of Berry Soetoro saying... "hey everybody out there, I was born in this hospital, and you should all believe me," why doesn't he release his "REAL" birth certificate and "PROVE IT?"

Oh yes... the question no one can answer.

Do you have your original live birth certificate on you Pale?

PolitiFact | Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter

If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State's office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

Sounds like a Vince Flynn novel.

:lol:
 
Wow! It must be so sad to be you.
You must be so disappointed that the republican party is so stupid as to let Obama be President. You must be so disappointed that the Clinton campaign let Obama win the nomination.
You cannot honestly believe that these people would allow someone you think is not a natural born citizen serve in the White House.
Give it a rest.
Are you stupid or crazy or just want attention?
If he was not a citizen, more powerful people then you would have stopped him. Look at the court battle for the White House in 2000. Look at the court battle between Coleman and Franken.
Don't you think that John McCain or Hillary Clinton would have been in court for either the nomination or the election.
Barack Obama is a citizen, born in Hawaii, and, as much as you don't like it, the President of the United States.
Now, put your tin foil hat back on before you get a clue.
 
So instead of Berry Soetoro saying... "hey everybody out there, I was born in this hospital, and you should all believe me," why doesn't he release his "REAL" birth certificate and "PROVE IT?"

Oh yes... the question no one can answer.

Do you have your original live birth certificate on you Pale?

PolitiFact | Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter

If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State's office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

Sounds like a Vince Flynn novel.

:lol:

No. But I do have a copy of my "ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE" that states not only "THE NAME OF THE HOSPITAL" but the "DOCTORS NAME THAT DELIVERED ME," not a "CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH," which in effect, coming from Hawaii in 1961 could be obtained by ANYONE and contains NONE of that information.

Something soetoro has never produced.

I don't know what's so hard about ADMITTING obama has NEVER SATISFIED the requirements put forth by our CONSTITUTION when it's a FACT. You people got your heads THAT FAR UP OBAMA'S ASS?
 
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Wow! It must be so sad to be you.
You must be so disappointed that the republican party is so stupid as to let Obama be President. You must be so disappointed that the Clinton campaign let Obama win the nomination.
You cannot honestly believe that these people would allow someone you think is not a natural born citizen serve in the White House.
Give it a rest.
Are you stupid or crazy or just want attention?
If he was not a citizen, more powerful people then you would have stopped him. Look at the court battle for the White House in 2000. Look at the court battle between Coleman and Franken.
Don't you think that John McCain or Hillary Clinton would have been in court for either the nomination or the election.
Barack Obama is a citizen, born in Hawaii, and, as much as you don't like it, the President of the United States.
Now, put your tin foil hat back on before you get a clue.

Try explaining to me why obama is hiding his real birth certificate instead of spewing all that liberal, got your head buried up obama's ass, bull shit ya fucking twit.
 
How the hell do you expect people to believe WND when they can't even get own facts straight.

In an August 23, 2008, article about Berg's lawsuit, WND claimed it had investigated Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate utilizing forgery experts and, "found the document to be authentic,"[48] contradicting claims made in other WND articles and in Corsi's book.[citation needed] However, on December 20, after numerous liberal websites, politicians and media personalities touted WND's findings, Joseph Farah claimed in a WND column that the forgery experts had not actually concluded it was authentic and that, "None of them could report conclusively that the electronic image [of the birth certificate on Obama's campaign website] was authentic or that it was a forgery."

In a February 10, 2009, column, Janet Porter further alleged that President Obama was acting as a mole for the Soviet Union. Porter suggested that Obama was raised as an atheist and Communist and was subsequently trained by Soviet agents during the early 1990s.

:rofl: Anyone who allows such BS to be posted as "News" is not a credible source.

WND has been through this BS in the past:

On September 20, 2000, WND published an article[53] claiming that Clark Jones, a Savannah, Tennessee car dealer and fund-raiser for then-Vice President Al Gore, had interfered with a criminal investigation, had been a "subject" of a criminal investigation, was listed on law enforcement computers as a "dope dealer," and implied that he had ties to others involved in alleged criminal activity. In 2001, Jones filed a lawsuit[54] against WND; the reporters, Charles C. Thompson II and Tony Hays; the Center for Public Integrity, which had underwritten Thompson and Hays' reporting on the article and related ones[55] and various Tennessee publications and broadcasters who he accused of repeating the claim, claiming libel and defamation. The lawsuit had been scheduled to go to trial in March 2008;[56] but, on February 13, 2008, WND announced that a confidential out-of-court settlement had been reached with Jones.[57] A settlement statement jointly drafted by all parties in the lawsuit states in part:

Corsi himself is not free of any plagiarism charges from his own fellow Conservatives:

Conservative author and pundit Debbie Schlussel has accused Corsi of plagiarizing elements from columns that she has published, and subsequently posting them under his byline in his WorldNetDaily column.[98][99]

Corsi is a fame hog who wishes he was Barack Obama and knows there is alot of money in book sales to be made by proclaiming fringe ideas.

WorldNetDaily - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Link added.

~A15
 
Actually, the President of the Hospital has read this letter aloud at the Hospital, during an anniversary celebration of some sort.

Get it? The Hospital President read this letter in public, at the hospital.

THe video of the celebration and the reading of the letter by the Hospital, out loud, saying that Obama was born there, is available on video. It's on the nut ball conspiracy page made just for debunking this horse shit.
 
How the hell do you expect people to believe WND when they can't even get own facts straight.

In an August 23, 2008, article about Berg's lawsuit, WND claimed it had investigated Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate utilizing forgery experts and, "found the document to be authentic,"[48] contradicting claims made in other WND articles and in Corsi's book.[citation needed] However, on December 20, after numerous liberal websites, politicians and media personalities touted WND's findings, Joseph Farah claimed in a WND column that the forgery experts had not actually concluded it was authentic and that, "None of them could report conclusively that the electronic image [of the birth certificate on Obama's campaign website] was authentic or that it was a forgery."

In a February 10, 2009, column, Janet Porter further alleged that President Obama was acting as a mole for the Soviet Union. Porter suggested that Obama was raised as an atheist and Communist and was subsequently trained by Soviet agents during the early 1990s.

:rofl: Anyone who allows such BS to be posted as "News" is not a credible source.

WND has been through this BS in the past:

On September 20, 2000, WND published an article[53] claiming that Clark Jones, a Savannah, Tennessee car dealer and fund-raiser for then-Vice President Al Gore, had interfered with a criminal investigation, had been a "subject" of a criminal investigation, was listed on law enforcement computers as a "dope dealer," and implied that he had ties to others involved in alleged criminal activity. In 2001, Jones filed a lawsuit[54] against WND; the reporters, Charles C. Thompson II and Tony Hays; the Center for Public Integrity, which had underwritten Thompson and Hays' reporting on the article and related ones[55] and various Tennessee publications and broadcasters who he accused of repeating the claim, claiming libel and defamation. The lawsuit had been scheduled to go to trial in March 2008;[56] but, on February 13, 2008, WND announced that a confidential out-of-court settlement had been reached with Jones.[57] A settlement statement jointly drafted by all parties in the lawsuit states in part:

Corsi himself is not free of any plagiarism charges from his own fellow Conservatives:

Conservative author and pundit Debbie Schlussel has accused Corsi of plagiarizing elements from columns that she has published, and subsequently posting them under his byline in his WorldNetDaily column.[98][99]

Corsi is a fame hog who wishes he was Barack Obama and knows there is alot of money in book sales to be made by proclaiming fringe ideas.

You're deflecting, and dodging, and whatever else you want to call dancing around the point. Not once has attacking the messenger ever proven a point, and attacking WND is not going to make the fact that obama has NOT proven he's a "NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN" go away.

Try facing the facts.
 
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I don't know what's so hard about ADMITTING obama has NEVER SATISFIED the requirements put forth by our CONSTITUTION when it's a FACT. You people got your heads THAT FAR UP OBAMA'S ASS?

I'm not sure whether the fact you:

A.) Actually believe these delusions

B.) believe saying he's not born here is code word for "We got a damn N word in the White House"

or

C.) are really bitter about this last election.

I'm not sure which of those 3 you hold true but to believe there is a vast conspiracy that is beyond any Dan Brown novel that Obama somehow wasn't born here is insane.

The amount of people involved among everything alone should dismiss such wacky theories. It reminds me of people who believe we didn't land on the moon. :eusa_eh:
 
Actually, the President of the Hospital has read this letter aloud at the Hospital, during an anniversary celebration of some sort.

Get it? The Hospital President read this letter in public, at the hospital.

THe video of the celebration and the reading of the letter by the Hospital, out loud, saying that Obama was born there, is available on video. It's on the nut ball conspiracy page made just for debunking this horse shit.

Show me ANYTHING you can debunk slick.... ANYTHING! In fact, SHOW ME OBAMA'S REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE... THAT WILL END IT ALL WON'T IT.

I'll wait....
 
You're deflecting, and dodging, and whatever else you want to call dancing around the point. Not once has attacking the messenger ever proven a point, and attacking WND is not going to make the fact that obama has NOT proven he's a "NATURAL BONE AMERICAN CITIZEN" go away.

Try facing the facts.

YOU try facing the facts or are you that delusional?

Well I don't think Obama can prove he is a Natural BONE American Citizen. :lol:

Seriously though, this issue has beaten to dead so many times that you must enjoy hitting that dead horse. Get any blood from that stone yet?
 

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