Horowitz speaks at Columbia

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    Friday, October 26, 2007

    In his appearance at Columbia Friday afternoon, David Horowitz, CC ’59, addressed the war on terror, education at Columbia, and women's rights in predominantly Muslim countries.

    Horowitz’s speech, organized by the College Republicans, was the culmination of Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, a controversial lecture tour spanning 114 U.S. college campuses. Public Safety guards flanked the doors of the CUID-only event and instituted a baggage check, as Horowitz spoke to an audience that filled about two-thirds of Lerner Cinema. The crowd was enthusiastic, though some potential dissenters were absent, opting for protests held at the same time.

    Horowitz took shots at Columbia, liberals, and critics of the term "Islamo-Fascist."

    “When I came to this campus as a freshman 52 years ago … the gates and the atmosphere was a lot more hospitable to actual thinking than it is today,” Horowitz said. A conservative writer, Horowitz said he was a Marxist as an undergraduate in a place where most professors were not.

    “In those days … I never heard a professor express a political opinion in the classroom one time,” he said, adding that, “nooses have been put figuratively on the doors of the College Republicans.”

    Horowitz clarified the term Islamo-Fascism, saying he intended the week to be a defense of moderate Muslims. He said Algerian Muslims first coined the term as “Islamo-Fascist” organizations slaughtered them in the 1990s. According to Horowitz, Nazism encouraged the development of modern Islamo-Fascism. But many have countered that Horowitz exploits the term to pursue his own agenda.

    The speech generated a mostly positive response from the audience. As Horowitz spoke, many of his more vocal critics, including the College Democrats, attended a panel of four Columbia professors who discussed the dangers of Horowitz’s ideas.

    To the democrats at Columbia, Horowitz said, “You are getting a worse education than the conservatives,” because conservatives “are all challenged all the time.” He said that education at Columbia is one-sided, citing as an example that the Womens’ Studies department does not deal with the oppression of women in Muslim countries.

    “There are a hundred and thirty million girls in the Islamic world who have had their genitals sliced off because according to a perverse interpretation of Islamic tradition, female sexual pleasure is evil, so this is to deprive them of pleasure in the sexual act.” Horowitz said that people mistakenly blame President George W. Bush for the Iraq War. "The identification of America as a great Satan did not come during the administration of George Bush," Horowitz said. "The first crowds in the Muslim world chanting a million strong—a million Muslims in a capital city chanting 'death to america,' that's you, it's everyone here, did not come during the administration of George Bush. It came during the administration of Jimmy Carter."

    According to Horowitz, when previous President Jimmy Carter supported the 1979 Iranian revolution by releasing Ayatollah Khomeini’s cohorts from jail, he “pulled the rug from under the Shah,” who liberated women in Iran by offering them education.

    The event avoided the abrupt but non-violent ending of Horowitz’s appearance at Emory University yesterday, during which a boisterous audience prompted police to escort Horowitz off the stage mid-way through his speech. Audience members submitted questions on index cards, which Chris Kulawik, CC ’08 and College Republicans president, sifted through and presented. Horowitz cut off Kulawik before he finished reading some questions. The audience met many of Horowitz’s points with enthusiastic clapping.

    When Kulawik read a question inquiring about “American Fascism,” Horowitz dismissed the question by saying “people who think there’s an American fascism are delusional.”

    http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/27743
     
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    cf Orwell, G "Nineteen Eighty-Four" - reference "hate week".
     
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    So instead you think there should be a "love fest" for Islamo-fascists?

    Oh wait… that already happened with Ahmandinejad…
     
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    Horowitz is a first class wacko.

    "Thank You, David Horowitz - So Much for Islamo-Fascism Awareness"

    By Alexander Cockburn

    "When I first saw Horowitz he was neither fat nor hairy nor apparently aware of Islamo-Fascism. This was in the late 1960s in London and he was working for the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation, studying at the feet of Isaac Deutscher and Ralph Miliband. About a decade later I saw him again, this time in Washington DC presiding over a well-publicized "Second Thoughts" conference, announcing his departure from the Left. He spoke harshly of his parents' decision to make him watch uplifting features about the Soviet Union and forbade any Doris Day movies, a common blunder in child-brain-washing techniques among the comrades at that time.

    Since then, like other Trotskyist vets, such as the above-mentioned Hitchens, Horowitz has thrown his energies into crusading on behalf of the American right, fuelled in his efforts by copious annual disbursements from the richer denizens of that well populated sector. Richard Mellon Scaife--apex demon in the "vast right-wing conspiracy" identified by Hillary Clinton amid the Lewinsky scandal--has poured millions into Horowitz's organizations, as have other well-heeled conservative foundations. Every now and again Horowitz will raise some spectacularly nutty alarum, like the Los Angeles Times being taken over by pinkoes, and I always assume that Horowitz must be filling out his annual grant applications, and reminding Scaife that others may snooze and idle, but he, Horowitz, is unceasing in his vigilance against sedition."

    http://www.counterpunch.com/cockburn10272007.html
     
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    I'm pretty certain a former pinko is eminently qualified to identify other pinkos.
    Why is it you think Horowitz is a "first class wacko"?

    Because he was a former leftist who saw the light and switched sides?
    Because he discusses and attempts to make students aware of Islamo-fascism?
    Because he infuriates the fascist brownshirts who shut down free speech? (like at Emory)
    Because he points out the oppression of women in Islam (and the deafening silence of Women's Studies Departments over that oppression)?

    Or perhaps he's a "wacko" because the ADC was exposed during his Awareness Week?

     
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    Is that:

    (a) a serious rejoinder
    (b) a deflection
    (c) a smartarse remark
    (d) grasping at straws

    Please clarify and get back to me.

    Thanks.
     
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    Horowitz makes decent points and when I was a college student, I appreciated his "Heterodoxy" magazine... it was nicely subversive of the PC atmosphere.

    But what we really need, instead of Islamo-Fascism week, is Judeo-Fascism week. Horowitz is a central part of it. As a Jew, his goal as a leftist was undermining white America to advance Jewish safety. His goals as a neocon are undermining Islam to... advance Jewish safety. So really, nothing has changed, just the target.
     
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    You're kidding.
     
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    Nope. Either you hate or you love radical Islamofascists once you really know them...I don't believe there are too many "middle-of-the roaders" on the issue....
     

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