Homosexuality and Mental Health~

[Ariux]

so should wedding photographers refuse service to people in open marriages ?
or couples into kinky stuff ? porn stars ?

Shouldn't that be their right? Or, do you object to freedom?

 

[Peach]

You really buy into the talking points, don't you?

If so, the "activists" should give up; ain't gonna happen.

 

[Ariux]

"These days" IQ tests include spatial and pattern recognition. What reputable studies show being gay is a decision, and why would one make that decision?

Pattern recognition?

Show me one "reputable" study that attempts to challenge the doctrine that people are born homosexual.

Perhaps you should answer her question... if you understand it.

I understand the question, and it reflects willfulness ignorance of what I pointed out - that such a study wouldn't be allowed. (Someone trying to make the case that homosexuality is not congenital.)

As for IQ, there is a great deal of evidence that IQ is, in substantial part, based on cultural norms and the absence of certain cultural norms or social knowledge, IQ scores become lower.

And, blacks still score worse in IQ tests designed for black culture.

Your point?

Some people don't care what the truth is, they just care whether some position conforms to their agenda, or not.

 

[Political Junky]

so should wedding photographers refuse service to people in open marriages ?
or couples into kinky stuff ? porn stars ?

Shouldn't that be their right? Or, do you object to freedom?

You have proof that photographers were forced to photograph gay weddings?

 

[eots]

so should wedding photographers refuse service to people in open marriages ?
or couples into kinky stuff ? porn stars ?

Shouldn't that be their right? Or, do you object to freedom?

I object to hypocrisy..and refusing some services based on a prejudice opens the door to services that could be considered essential like health care ,education , transportation being denied over any number of individual prejudice's if unchallenged..I am not aware of the incident you are speaking of and while it may be the photographers right to refuse service it is also the right of the individuals involved to make an issue out of it

 

[Ariux]

I object to hypocrisy..and refusing some services based on a prejudice opens the door to services that could be considered essential like health care education , transportation being denied if unchallenged.

So, you lied when you said, "It's a choice a free person should be able to decide for themselves."

 

[eots]

I object to hypocrisy..and refusing some services based on a prejudice opens the door to services that could be considered essential like health care education , transportation being denied if unchallenged.

So, you lied when you said, "It's a choice a free person should be able to decide for themselves."

and how did you distort that out of what I said ?...no one is being forced into a sexual act

 

[Peach]

If so, the "activists" should give up; ain't gonna happen.

This was meant to reply to the words of ARIUX. That quote is not shown.

 

[eots]

should a taxi driver be able to refuse service to a mixed race couple or a woman he feels is not virtuous enough ? a doctor to refuse treatment ,a lawyer to refuse to represent ?
what are you the Taliban now ??

 

[jillian]

I understand the question, and it reflects willfulness ignorance of what I pointed out - that such a study wouldn't be allowed. (Someone trying to make the case that homosexuality is not congenital.)

a "study" wouldn't have a set objective like that. it would have a generic objective if it is a valid study which wouldn't suggest a result. so i still say your refusal to answer her question shows a lack of understanding.

And, blacks still score worse in IQ tests designed for black culture.

i don't believe that to be the case... although racists do like saying that.

Some people don't care what the truth is, they just care whether some position conforms to their agenda, or not.

because most of us know that racists and homophobes wouldn't know the "truth" if it bit them in the butt.

i figure if you think someone gets up and "decides" to be gay, that you must have to get up every day and force yourself to be heterosexual.

Me? I don't have to force myself. It isn't a choice... I have no interest in other women in that way. I could "choose" whatever I want, but why would I since I couldn't choose not to be attracted to men.

perhaps you have a different life experience?

 

[Ariux]

I object to hypocrisy..and refusing some services based on a prejudice opens the door to services that could be considered essential like health care education , transportation being denied if unchallenged.

So, you lied when you said, "It's a choice a free person should be able to decide for themselves."

and how did you distort that out of what I said ?...no one is being forced into a sexual act

You said "it's a choice a free person should be able to decide themselves", then you defend government coercion of homosexual activity. "I object to... refusing [homosexual] services based on prejudices..." In other words, you want the government to force people to bend over or go to jail for bigotry.

Then you play the feigned ignorance card and claim to be unaware of people being coerced into taking part in homosexual activities. Banning discrimination is a violation of a person's rights and freedom, but for you it's also hypocrisy because you want to ban people from having a free choice, after you defended the indefensible in the name of freedom.

Apparently, you're also bringing up the slipper slope argument to justify forcing people not just to serve homosexuals in capacities unrelated to homosexual activity, but also in capacities related to homosexual activity itself, such as providing same-sex wedding-related services. And, your only remaining defense is that we're not talking about the profession of prostitution. Which leads me to ask, do you think prostitution should be legalized?

 

[Peach]

I understand the question, and it reflects willfulness ignorance of what I pointed out - that such a study wouldn't be allowed. (Someone trying to make the case that homosexuality is not congenital.)

a "study" wouldn't have a set objective like that. it would have a generic objective if it is a valid study which wouldn't suggest a result. so i still say your refusal to answer her question shows a lack of understanding.

And, blacks still score worse in IQ tests designed for black culture.

i don't believe that to be the case... although racists do like saying that.

Some people don't care what the truth is, they just care whether some position conforms to their agenda, or not.

because most of us know that racists and homophobes wouldn't know the "truth" if it bit them in the butt.

i figure if you think someone gets up and "decides" to be gay, that you must have to get up every day and force yourself to be heterosexual.

Me? I don't have to force myself. It isn't a choice... I have no interest in other women in that way. I could "choose" whatever I want, but why would I since I couldn't choose not to be attracted to men.

perhaps you have a different life experience?

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I see it that way also; what I felt when young is still the I feel now. Schizophrenia was thought to be "possession by evil forces" for centuries, then caused by mothers being cruel. NOW, most experts I have read believe it caused by a virus while pregnant. Using twins raised in different households shed light on schizophrenia; that might help quash the "gay" is a CHOICE crowd.

 

[eots]

i understand the question, and it reflects willfulness ignorance of what i pointed out - that such a study wouldn't be allowed. (someone trying to make the case that homosexuality is not congenital.)

a "study" wouldn't have a set objective like that. It would have a generic objective if it is a valid study which wouldn't suggest a result. So i still say your refusal to answer her question shows a lack of understanding.



I don't believe that to be the case... Although racists do like saying that.

some people don't care what the truth is, they just care whether some position conforms to their agenda, or not.

because most of us know that racists and homophobes wouldn't know the "truth" if it bit them in the butt.

I figure if you think someone gets up and "decides" to be gay, that you must have to get up every day and force yourself to be heterosexual.

Me? I don't have to force myself. It isn't a choice... I have no interest in other women in that way. I could "choose" whatever i want, but why would i since i couldn't choose not to be attracted to men.

Perhaps you have a different life experience?

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i see it that way also; what i felt when young is still the i feel now. Schizophrenia was thought to be "possession by evil forces" for centuries, then caused by mothers being cruel. Now, most experts i have read believe it caused by a virus while pregnant. Using twins raised in different households shed light on schizophrenia; that might help quash the "gay" is a choice crowd.

complete gibberish

 

[eots]

The Fallacy of the 50% Concordance Rate for Schizophrenia in Identical Twins

by

Jonathan Leo

A Review of The Gene Illusion: Genetic Research in Psychiatry and Psychology Under the Microscope by Jay Joseph. 2003, PCCS Books, Ross-on-Wye.

The next time you see an announcement in the paper about the discovery of a gene for emotional distress you will be a little more skeptical. The problem for the psychiatry profession is that Joseph’s readers will likely take his debunking of the “50% concordance rate” one step further and question the entire scientific basis for biological psychiatry.

The Fallacy of The 50% Concordance Rate for Schizophrenia in Identical Twins by Jonathan Leo

 

[uscitizen]

Strange that the rise in homosexuality and rise in republican power coincide?

 

[eots]

Strange that the rise in homosexuality and rise in republican power coincide?

THATS ANOTHER STORY...

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[techieny]

I kissed a conspiracy and I liked it!

 

[Ariux]

I see it that way also; what I felt when young is still the I feel now. Schizophrenia was thought to be "possession by evil forces" for centuries, then caused by mothers being cruel. NOW, most experts I have read believe it caused by a virus while pregnant. Using twins raised in different households shed light on schizophrenia; that might help quash the "gay" is a CHOICE crowd.

Liberals never seem to believe what they're claiming. For example, if you really thought homosexuality were congenital, why would you be opposed to someone finding a cure, at least for the benefit of those who don't want to be a homosexual? Indeed, homosexual activists are totally opposed to the concept of treating homosexuals. They act more like homosexuality is a religion, and they take offense at the idea of someone trying to bring people out of the religion.

So, you think homosexuality might be caused by a virus? Do you think our government should fund research to cure homosexuality? How about for AIDS?

 

[Political Junky]

Can Psychiatrists Really "Cure" Homosexuality?: Scientific American

A British survey published last month found that one in 25 therapists would assist gay and bisexual patients attempting to convert to heterosexuality. That's despite the fact that many medical groups, including the American Medical Association, have for years condemned such practices, saying they don't work and can actually cause harm.

It may not be surprising that Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson and televangelist pastor Jerry Falwell, among many others, have supported programs designed to convert homosexuals away from "sin" and into the arms of God-fearing heterosexuality. But what may surprise you is one of the research sources cited by the Catholic Medical Association in 2006 when it declared that science "counters the myth that same-sex attraction is genetically predetermined and unchangeable, and offers hope for prevention and treatment."

That source? William Masters and Virginia Johnson, a husband–wife team who are perhaps the world's most famous sex researchers.
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[Ariux]

should a taxi driver be able to refuse service to a mixed race couple or a woman he feels is not virtuous enough ? a doctor to refuse treatment ,a lawyer to refuse to represent ?
what are you the Taliban now ??

1) Yes, anyone should be allowed to not serve anyone he doesn't want to, for any reason. (I know, freedom repulses you.)

2) Race is not a moral issue, homosexuality is. Which makes your mixed-race example irrelevant to the issue of homosexuality.

3) And, the clear point I've made which you've studiously have ignored, is that you want to coerce people to take part in homosexual activity. If you were consistent, you'd insist that a prostitute go to jail for resisting homosexual rape. Not all homosexual activity is sex, but you get the point, and you're true nature is exposed.