Homicide Bombers in Iraq Are Mostly Saudis

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In a bid to boost democracy and human rights in the Middle East, Wahhabi members of the Religion of Peace blow themselves into little pieces of meaningless shit while murdering innocent Iraqis:

'Martyrs' In Iraq Mostly Saudis
Web Sites Track Suicide Bombings
By Susan B. Glasser
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, May 15, 2005

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/14/AR2005051401270_pf.html

Before Hadi bin Mubarak Qahtani exploded himself into an anonymous fireball, he was young and interested only in "fooling around."

Like many Saudis, he was said to have experienced a religious awakening after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States and dedicated himself to Allah, inspired by "the holy attack that demolished the foolish infidel Americans and caused many young men to awaken from their deep sleep," according to a posting on a jihadist Web site.

On April 11, he died as a suicide bomber, part of a coordinated insurgent attack on a U.S. Marine base in the western Iraq city of Qaim. Just two days later, "the Martyrdom" of Hadi bin Mubarak Qahtani was announced on the Internet, the latest requiem for a young Saudi man who had clamored to follow "those 19 heroes" of Sept. 11 and had found in Iraq an accessible way to die.

Hundreds of similar accounts of suicide bombers are featured on the rapidly proliferating array of Web sites run by radical Islamists, online celebrations of death that offer a wealth of information about an otherwise shadowy foe at a time when U.S. military officials say that foreign fighters constitute a growing and particularly deadly percentage of the Iraqi insurgency.

The account of Qahtani's death, like many other individual entries on the Web sites, cannot be verified. But independent experts and former government terrorism analysts who monitor the sites believe they are genuine mouthpieces for the al Qaeda-affiliated radicals who have made Iraq "a melting pot for jihadists from around the world, a training group and an indoctrination center," as a recent State Department report put it. The sites hail death in Iraq as the inspiration for a new generation of terrorists in much the same way that Afghanistan attracted Muslims eager to fight against the Soviet Union in the 1980s.

Rosters of the Dead

Who are the suicide bombers of Iraq? By the radicals' account, they are an internationalist brigade of Arabs, with the largest share in the online lists from Saudi Arabia and a significant minority from other countries on Iraq's borders, such as Syria and Kuwait. The roster of the dead on just one extremist Web site reviewed by The Washington Post runs to nearly 250 names, ranging from a 13-year-old Syrian boy said to have died fighting the Americans in Fallujah to the reigning kung fu champion of Jordan, who sneaked off to wage war by telling his family he was going to a tournament.

Among the dead are students of engineering and English, the son of a Moroccan restaurateur and a smattering of Europeanized Arabs. There are also long lists of names about whom nothing more is recorded than a country of origin and the word "martyr."

Some counterterrorism officials are skeptical about relying on information from publicly available Web sites, which they say may be used for disinformation. But other observers of the jihadist Web sites view the lists of the dead "for internal purposes" more than for propaganda, as British researcher Paul Eedle put it. "These are efforts on the part of jihadis to collate deaths. It's like footballers on the Net getting a buzz out of knowing somebody's transferred from Chelsea to Liverpool." Or, as Col. Thomas X. Hammes, an expert on insurgency with the National Defense University, said, "they are targeted marketing. They are not aimed at the West."

Zarqawi Lures Attackers

Many of the Arabs, according to the postings, were drawn to fight in Iraq under the banner of al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, the group run by Jordanian militant Abu Musab Zarqawi that has taken credit for a gruesome series of beheadings, kidnappings and suicide attacks -- many of them filmed and then disseminated on the Internet in a convergence between the electronic jihad and the real-life war.

In recent days, the U.S. military in Iraq has stepped up its campaign against the Zarqawi network, launching an offensive in western Iraq in an area where foreigners are believed to be smuggled across the Syrian border and claiming to have arrested or killed nearly two dozen key Zarqawi lieutenants. At the same time, Iraq has been hit by a wave of suicide attacks causing about 400 deaths over the last two weeks, one of the deadliest periods since the U.S. invasion in 2003.

As the military has blamed much of the escalating violence on foreign fighters coming to Iraq, Zarqawi's group responded this week. "The infidels once again are claiming that foreign fighters are responsible for initiating the attacks and an increase [in foreign fighters] is the true danger," the Zarqawi media wing said in a May 10 Internet posting. But "the real danger," the posting said, is Zarqawi's overall following. And besides, it added, "who is the foreigner . . .? You are the ones who came to the land of the Muslims from your distant corrupt land."

U.S. military estimates cited by security analysts put the number of active jihadists at about 1,000, or less than 10 percent of the number of fighters in a mostly Iraqi-dominated insurgency. But military officials now say the foreigners are responsible for a higher percentage of the suicide bombings, and the online postings include few names of dead Iraqis affiliated with Zarqawi's group.

Many of the suicide bombers appear to have been novices in warfare, attracted by the relative ease of access to Iraq and the lure of quick martyrdom. "This is not al Qaeda's first team," said Hammes of the National Defense University. "These are the scrubs who could never get us in the States."

Heavy Saudi Involvement

In a paper published in March, Reuven Paz, an Israeli expert on terrorism, analyzed the lists of jihadi dead. He found 154 Arabs killed over the previous six months in Iraq, 61 percent of them from Saudi Arabia, with Syrians, Iraqis and Kuwaitis together accounting for another 25 percent. He also found that 70 percent of the suicide bombers named by the Web sites were Saudi. In three cases, Paz found two brothers who carried out suicide attacks. Many of the bombers were married, well educated and in their late twenties, according to postings.

"While incomplete," Paz wrote, the data suggest "the intensive involvement of Saudi volunteers for jihad in Iraq."

In a telephone interview, Paz said his list -- assembled from monitoring a dozen Islamic extremist Web forums -- now had more than 200 names. "Many are students or from wealthy families -- the same sociological characteristics as the Sept. 11 hijackers," he said.

Saudis Dispute Numbers

The apparent predominance of Saudi fighters on the Internet lists has caused an alarmed reaction by Saudi officials (Believe this and I have a bridge to sell you.), who fear a backlash from the Americans at the same time they are trying to convince the United States that they are working as allies against terrorism. While Saudi officials do not deny that Saudi citizens have taken up arms against the United States in Iraq, they argue that the long lists of Saudi dead could be a disinformation tactic or simply a recruiting tool used to lure Arab youth to Iraq by convincing them of how many others have already won a place in Paradise.

"Are there Saudis in Iraq? Yes, we know that. Absolutely. But are there the numbers being bandied about? We really don't believe so," said a Saudi official who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the subject.

"The Internet sites try to recruit people -- it's the best recruitment tool," said Saudi security analyst Nawaf Obaid. Obaid, who has worked closely with the government, said he found 47 cases of Saudis who were dead or injured reported in the kingdom's newspapers, far lower than Internet totals, and had concluded the overall number of Saudi jihadis in Iraq was in the hundreds. "But young guys, they read [on the Internet] we have thousands of Saudis there and think, 'I have to go, too.' "

Evan F. Kohlmann, a researcher who monitors Islamic extremist Web sites, has compiled a list of more than 235 names of Iraqi dead gleaned from the Internet since last summer, with more than 50 percent on his tally from Saudi Arabia as well. In some cases, he found photos or videos of dead foreign fighters posted online. One Kuwaiti policeman who died was featured in a Zarqawi propaganda video called "Winds of Change," while the bloodied corpse of a Turkish al Qaeda disciple, Habib Aktas, was shown on another video celebrating his "martyrdom."

Some of the Web postings also include phone numbers so fellow Islamists can call a dead fighter's family and congratulate them. Kohlmann called several of the numbers. "I have lists and lists of foreign fighters, and it's no joke. Their sons went and blew themselves up in Iraq," he said.

Zarqawi's group has also regularly posted biographical sketches of its suicide bombers, such as that of Abu Anas Tuhami, said to have died in a suicide attack on Iraq's Election Day in January. Tuhami, a Saudi orphan raised by his grandfather, was unusually saintly, as reported in the February online communique.

Quick Path to Paradise

"O' brother, I love to sleep on the floor and I need no mattress," Tuhami was quoted as telling one fellow foreign fighter. He was to have been married in February. "Instead, he chose to be with the virgins of paradise," the announcement said. "He used to talk frequently about the virgins of paradise and their beauty, and he wished to drink a sip from the sustenance of paradise while a virgin beauty wiped his mouth." (How do you deter this psychotic excrement?)

One Web forum examined by The Post, a site first registered to an Abu Dhabi individual on Sept. 18, 2001, and believed to attract postings from al Qaeda, presents a regularly updated list of the "Arab martyrs in Iraq." The forum, at http://www.qal3ah.net/ , was used by both Paz and Kohlmann in compiling their lists; other researchers also said they regularly consulted the site, which bills itself as a sort of town hall for the jihad-inclined.

Saudis were also the leading group on this list, representing 44 percent, followed by Syrians and Iraqis at less than 15 percent each. Many of the dead appeared to be young newcomers to jihad with stories like Qahtani's, though other listings detailed the deaths of veteran fighters who came through the al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan before Sept. 11, including the father of Ammar Souri, the 13-year-old said to have died during last year's fighting in Fallujah.

Biographies of Bombers

Often the entries bragged about the number of Americans killed by the "lions from the martyrs' brigade," as in the case of Ahmed Said Ghamdi, a 20-year-old Saudi who was said to have given up his medical studies in Sudan to go to Iraq and was hailed as the "hero" of a Mosul suicide bombing of a mess tent that killed 22 people.

Another list, posted in February on the forum called Masada at http://www.alm2sda.net/ , listed a couple dozen senior Zarqawi lieutenants who had died -- most of whose names appear on the other Web lists. Among them was Abu Mohammed Lubnani, a Lebanese who had lived in Denmark before going to fight in Iraq and whose son was also killed, and Abu Ahmad Tabuki, who had been a key figure in the Afghan jihad against the Soviets.

Biographical details are often sketchy in the online obituaries, as is the case with Qahtani, the young Saudi said to have died April 11 while attacking a U.S. Marine base in the western Iraqi city of Qaim. The account of his death located by Kohlmann on the Internet does not say whether Qahtani was driving the commandeered dump truck that barreled onto the base, wreaking havoc before exploding, or whether he was in one of two other vehicles that blew up while another group of fighters opened fire on Marines.

It gives no more identifying details than his name -- indicating he was part of a well-known Saudi tribe that also produced the al Qaeda member known as the so-called 20th hijacker, Mohamed Qahtani, who was turned away from entering the country by suspicious U.S. airport officials in August 2001.

Five other Qahtanis have been reported killed in Iraq, including Muhammed bin Aedh Ghadif Qahtani, a captain in the Saudi National Guard who allegedly used his guard identification badge to help gain entry into Iraq when he was stopped for questioning.
 
It does look like US and UK are looking at this, at least some in their press:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1622509,00.html

The Sunday Times - World

May 22, 2005

Suicide bomber CDs woo martyrs to Iraq
Hala Jaber and
Tony Allen-Mills Washington

THEY look like ordinary discs, familiar to any computer user, music lover or film buff. Yet the unmarked CDs circulating among Islamic militants across the Arab world make grim viewing. They show suicide bombers preparing for their missions and carrying them out.

“Give away the martyr to his second home in heaven, give away the martyr with his wounds, blood and clothes,” sings a group of masked men in one CD obtained by The Sunday Times.

Moments later a smiling young suicide bomber waves goodbye to his friends and drives off to explode a car bomb next to a US convoy in Mosul, northern Iraq.

Compiled as both memorials and recruitment tools, the CDs capture the numbing conviction of the suicide bombers that they are working for God and will be rewarded in heaven. They form part of an expanding high-tech terrorist network that is trying to turn the bombers into heroes. Obviously not the brightest lights. :rolleyes:

US officials have identified a growing list of Arabic internet websites that chart the lives, families and final murderous attacks of at least 200 suicide bombers. Officials believe that Al-Qaeda and other groups — notably Abu Musab alZarqawi’s jihadist insurgents in Iraq —— are using the CDs and websites to honour and recruit “martyrs”.

“You’d think that seeing a suicide bombing might have a deterrent effect on future volunteers,” said one military officer who has viewed the CDs. “But these guys see only the heavenly glory, with their pictures on everyone’s television.”

In another disc circulated recently two unnamed suicide bombers are seen smiling and chatting to their masked friends amid animated discussion of “martyrdom”. Their “heavenly rewards” include the attention of Houri el-Ein, a celestial virgin.

“Give away the martyr to the Houri in heaven,” the men sing as they hug and pat the bombers on the back. The bombers then climb into an explosives-laden vehicle and wave as they drive away. The last shots show the lorry blowing itself into a huge orange fireball close to another US convoy.

A senior US officer said last week that there had been 21 car bombs in Baghdad this month, compared with 25 in the whole of last year. In the past two weeks more than 400 people have died in almost 80 insurgent attacks.

So determined are the car bombers to reach their targets that some have their hands taped to the steering wheel and a foot taped to the accelerator in case US forces shoot them dead as they approach.Considering that one in this shape was retarded, it IS questionable who is doing the taping...

The upsurge in Iraqi violence has shocked Pentagon officials, who had hoped that it was on the wane after the comparative success of the elections earlier this year. General John Abizaid, US commander in the Middle East, admitted that Iraqi security forces were “behind” in their efforts to take over from the coalition. A senior officer in Baghdad was quoted as saying that the coalition effort in Iraq “could still fail”.

Leading the threat to the coalition effort is the seemingly inexhaustible supply of suicide bombers from Saudi Arabia, Yemen and other Arab nations. Desperate to know how and why the militants are recruiting so successfully, US military and intelligence agents have been scrutinising radical Islamic websites.

The roster of dead on one website includes 415 names, among them a kung fu champion from Jordan who supposedly told his parents that he was going to a martial arts tournament. The names include Saudi university students, newlyweds and an employee of the Kuwaiti defence department who resigned and headed across the border to Iraq. The aim of all these volunteers was to “purge the Islamic land of American infidels, to achieve martyrdom and a place in heaven”.

One website tells of parents who were unaware that their sons were in Iraq until they received a telephone call announcing their deaths. Some websites list families’ phone numbers for other militants to call with congratulations.

In one case the mother of Mohammed al-Shumari dreamt that her “martyred” son came to her naked and kissed her. She asked clerics for an explanation and was told that he had been accepted in heaven and appeared naked because he had been purified of all his sins.

Some entries are blatant propaganda, notably an account of the Jordanian mother of Khaled bin Abdul Aziz, who is said to have visited her son’s grave in Iraq and demanded to see the body. When the bomber’s remains were dug up, the website said, “they were all surprised to find his body intact two months after burial and still smelling of incense and roses”. :tinfoil:

Despite the improbability of a sweet-smelling afterlife, US officials fear that the propaganda offensive is having an effect. Nobody in Washington expects an early end to the wave of suicide bombings.
 
The nihilistic bombers have nothing to lose. But their families do. We should erase the money and homes of the families and Wahhabi clerics that raise these suicide bombers. Unlike now, there must be consequences for the families, teachers, and friends of the Wahhabi murders. If any organization pays compensation to the familes of homicide bombers, it should be vaporized. Cannot the origin of the Wahhabi murderer recruitment websites be tracked and erased? The Administration, CIA, and the American military, have known for years that Wahhabi maniacs are causing much of the chaos in the Middle East, yet King Fahd is invited to spend the weekend in Crawford! It does not make any sense. Are we so addicted to Saudi oil that we will let the Wahhabis murder us in the streets and not attack the perpetrators in Saudi Arabia?
 
onedomino said:
The nihilistic bombers have nothing to lose. But their families do. We should erase the money and homes of the families and Wahhabi clerics that raise these suicide bombers. Unlike now, there must be consequences for the families, teachers, and friends of the Wahhabi murders. If any organization pays compensation to the familes of homicide bombers, it should be vaporized. Cannot the origin of the Wahhabi murderer recruitment websites be tracked and erased? The Administration, CIA, and the American military, have known for years that Wahhabi maniacs are causing much of the chaos in the Middle East, yet King Fahd is invited to spend the weekend in Crawford! It does not make any sense. Are we so addicted to Saudi oil that we will let the Wahhabis murder us in the streets and not attack the perpetrators in Saudi Arabia?

I agree and wonder too!
 
of the United States. It pained me to watch President Bush holding that old bastard's hand in Crawford, while on the other side of the world, in Saudi Arabia, their Iman's encourage terrorists to kill us. Flat out time to get off the Saudi oil tit. Does oil mean so much that we befriend those actively trying to kill our soldiers and citizens? Since September 11th the real enemy has been apparent, wahhabism, and it's parent country and promoter Saudi Arabia. Why are we blinding ourselves to this reality? We should be preparing to engage the House of Saud in a real discussion to end this or prepare for war. Sad that they, of course, have some of our lasted weaponry we eagerly sold them.
 
onedomino said:
The nihilistic bombers have nothing to lose. But their families do. We should erase the money and homes of the families and Wahhabi clerics that raise these suicide bombers. Unlike now, there must be consequences for the families, teachers, and friends of the Wahhabi murders. If any organization pays compensation to the familes of homicide bombers, it should be vaporized. Cannot the origin of the Wahhabi murderer recruitment websites be tracked and erased? The Administration, CIA, and the American military, have known for years that Wahhabi maniacs are causing much of the chaos in the Middle East, yet King Fahd is invited to spend the weekend in Crawford! It does not make any sense. Are we so addicted to Saudi oil that we will let the Wahhabis murder us in the streets and not attack the perpetrators in Saudi Arabia?

Looks like Michael Moore was on the right track in F/9-11. However, he did not go deep enough b/c he is a film maker, not an investigative reporter. Some brave team of top notch reporters needs to dig into this and see what floats to the surface.
 
menewa said:
Looks like Michael Moore was on the right track in F/9-11. However, he did not go deep enough b/c he is a film maker, not an investigative reporter. Some brave team of top notch reporters needs to dig into this and see what floats to the surface.


You funny.

Everyone (dems) that his movie (bet including you) was a superb piece of journalism. Give me a break, when someone does a documentary, it is:

THE TRUTH

Hence, you entire claim is false. Unless of course the "documentary/news/propaganda" had a disclaimer that said:

"Based on real life events."

The only thing that floats to the surface is your logic. Good luck skimming it from the top...
 

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