Holy toledo!!!! Numbers coming in 52% Leave 48% Remain

And here we see the idiocy of democracies – where ignorance, fear, and bigotry are the deciding factors concerning significant issues, as opposed to facts and the truth.

We Americans should be thankful we’re not subject to such capricious fear and stupidity.
Dear C_Clayton_Jones
As many would say the same except blaming people like you for the problem with biased agenda that excludes others and rejects truth and reason.

As many ppl argue we ARE fighting against fear and stupidity that is corrupting our democratic republic, again because of ppl like you.

I'd much rather see both sides correct the problems instead of merely blaming someone else and doing nothing. Maybe the US will see similar reforms when more states join together in standing up for Constitutional checks on govt. And unite in ending the trends of political parties pushing biased beliefs on a federal level. We don't have to agree which beliefs we are for or against to demand equal protection and no taxation without representation.

I hope we follow this example and start saying no to federal policies that don't represent the consent of the people affected, and the taxpayers footing the bill.

Of course the Clayties will turn around and fight literacy tests and basic civics tests being imposed, and snivel about how criminal illegal aliens should be allowed to vote, etc., so no need to take his hypocritical sniveling about 'ignorance n stuff' as if it's a serious point; it isn't, it's just another example of how ridiculous and ignorant and bigoted he is himself. It's the faux 'Left' and New Democrats that heavily rely on illiterates and racists for votes.
 
With the fragility and exposure so widespread in the markets, this could be a serious blow.

The EU isn't going to quit trading with the UK, and the UK isn't going to quit trading with the EU; it will cause a short term uncertainty, sure, but it won't dramatically affect either. That doesn't preclude the other bricks waiting to fall out there causing damage, of course..
Where is the check and balance. Were ALL the decisions being made by outside authority, and when has that ever worked.

Why not let the member countries elect and appoint reps to a collective body similar to Senators (diversifying these by party or by regions within countries to make sure all interests are represented and protected equally). And use that to check whatever policies affect them so these aren't coming from appointed or anointed officials dictating for everyone else.

Shouldn't we have learned from history by now that nobody takes well to being dictated to by an outside group with conflicting interests or beliefs. Is this concept really something novel and grounbreaking, or just the same old lesson we haven't learned, but keep flunking the same test over and over....
 
And here we see the idiocy of democracies – where ignorance, fear, and bigotry are the deciding factors concerning significant issues, as opposed to facts and the truth.

We Americans should be thankful we’re not subject to such capricious fear and stupidity.
Dear C_Clayton_Jones
As many would say the same except blaming people like you for the problem with biased agenda that excludes others and rejects truth and reason.

As many ppl argue we ARE fighting against fear and stupidity that is corrupting our democratic republic, again because of ppl like you.

I'd much rather see both sides correct the problems instead of merely blaming someone else and doing nothing. Maybe the US will see similar reforms when more states join together in standing up for Constitutional checks on govt. And unite in ending the trends of political parties pushing biased beliefs on a federal level. We don't have to agree which beliefs we are for or against to demand equal protection and no taxation without representation.

I hope we follow this example and start saying no to federal policies that don't represent the consent of the people affected, and the taxpayers footing the bill.

Of course the Clayties will turn around and fight literacy tests and basic civics tests being imposed, and snivel about how criminal illegal aliens should be allowed to vote, etc., so no need to take his hypocritical sniveling about 'ignorance n stuff' as if it's a serious point; it isn't, it's just another example of how ridiculous and ignorant and bigoted he is himself. It's the faux 'Left' and New Democrats that heavily rely on illiterates and racists for votes.
Sure, Picaro and why not hold the Democratic Left financially and legally responsible for any deadbeats they want to fund on welfare (while complaining there's no money to pay for health care) and for their own platform and policies pushed by their politicians.

And same with the right: let them finance all the corporate welfare, cleanup of environmental damages and restoration of forest and ocean ecosystems caused by lack of respect and/or of regulations, and paying back costs of war and illicit contracts to set up sustainable care for veterans and anyone else who prefers a proliferation free market system.

Separate the party politics and beliefs from mainstream govt, require party members and leaders to fund their own programs, and only base public policy on what all ppl agree represents the entire nation.

We'd have limited govt at the top and maximum empowerment on the grassroots level, with more direct accountability for how resources are spent, saved or invested.

Or we can keep rejecting common sense while blaming the other party for pushing their own agenda "out of fear and stupidity." Let ppl have the right to be stupid at their own expense, just don't charge it to ppl who'd rather fund their own ways, biased or not. To each their own. You want it, you pay for it. Simple.
 
England grows a pair.

Congratulations Brits.

This is a victory for decent British people, who love their nation and want to preserve and protect their Culture and Heritage and control their OWN borders.

Good on them for not voting to stay in the EU Dictatorship.

Also for NOT being swayed by the Politics of Hate and Fear-Mongering that the Remain camp bombarded them with eg. for them to be told that they're "racist bigots" for waving their OWN national flag and for being told that they're "racist bigots" for not wanting tons of angry, aggressive Muslim and African Economic Migrants being let in to help ruin their nation.

We get the same treatment here. We're called racists and bigots for not wanting Obama to flood our nation with unknown hordes from the third world and especially middle east. He never explains how this will make our country better. Congratulations on winning the vote.
 
England grows a pair.

Congratulations Brits.

This is a victory for decent British people, who love their nation and want to preserve and protect their Culture and Heritage and control their OWN borders.

Good on them for not voting to stay in the EU Dictatorship.

Also for NOT being swayed by the Politics of Hate and Fear-Mongering that the Remain camp bombarded them with eg. for them to be told that they're "racist bigots" for waving their OWN national flag and for being told that they're "racist bigots" for not wanting tons of angry, aggressive Muslim and African Economic Migrants being let in to help ruin their nation.

We get the same treatment here. We're called racists and bigots for not wanting Obama to flood our nation with unknown hordes from the third world and especially middle east. He never explains how this will make our country better. Congratulations on winning the vote.

It will make us stronger having to fight our own govt to defend security ourselves. If conservatives want to be as independent of federal govt as possible, this is part of that push.

We are already being pushed to take up arms and defend ourselves since we can't rely on govt. officials.
We need to fight and win this same battle legally and civilly so it doesn't escalate and require armed conflict.
That's what the Constitution is for, and we need to defend and enforce that.

When everyone is equally versed in th e laws and enforcement, nobody can get away with abusing govt to run amok.

So that is where this process is leading. Compelling everyone to learn the laws in order to enforce them consistently , not to undermine them by overriding opposition.

We will be stronger after this. We are all being called to get involved in the democratic process and hold govt to account, instead of being complacent to let elected officials pass whatever they want or can get away with.
 
And here we see the idiocy of democracies – where ignorance, fear, and bigotry are the deciding factors concerning significant issues, as opposed to facts and the truth.

We Americans should be thankful we’re not subject to such capricious fear and stupidity.

"The idiocy of democracies".

I truly hope as many posters as possible read this post.
Is this the mind of the garden variety liberal, or just another extremist rambling ?
Either way, this needs to be called out.
 
FOR HER MAJESTY!!! FEND OFF THE MUSLIM INVADERS!!!

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If they just wouldn't have stopped having kids, this wouldn't even be an issue.
If kids and adults are raised right, you don't need massive numbers. Just wiser use of resources. Behind every successful business, school or charity there is some founding person or small group with a vision. That's enough to make a difference, even if vastly outnumbered.
 
And here we see the idiocy of democracies – where ignorance, fear, and bigotry are the deciding factors concerning significant issues, as opposed to facts and the truth.

We Americans should be thankful we’re not subject to such capricious fear and stupidity.

You over think everything. Brits got tired of being told what to do, and saw the destruction of the Muslim invasion and said, "No."
We are currently in the position of being tired of Obama telling us what to do and tired of the invasion. America's silent majority is about to be heard too.
 
Sovereignty wins over globalization!
and the claim it is a form of bigotry is a big fat lie.
 
For awhile, I thought we were going to have a Texit. Obama sucks so bad that the Cowboys in Texas are ready to leave. If Hillary wins, they will Texit.
 
EU referendum: Latest results - BBC News

"Leave" has about 8.5 million votes now and a 500,000 vote lead.

16.8 million needed to win.
now these are all legal residents?
Many (most?) of them are. Which doesn't mean the skulls of troublemakers can't be cracked -- and that is the way to deal with aggressively trouble-making Muslims. That is the remedy and it's high time it was administered. Give them cause to want to leave on their own.
 
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