Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering.

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    In year 2000, Norman Finkelstein published his excellent The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering. He argued there that the American Jewish establishment exploits the memory of the Nazi Holocaust for political and financial gain, as well as to further the interests of Israel. Moreover, he claims that this "Holocaust Industry" has corrupted Jewish culture and the authentic memory of the Holocaust. Finkelstein's parents were both Holocaust survivors who had been inmates of concentration camps. In Chapter 3: The Double Shakedown, he claims that the number of Jewish survivors of the Holocaust recognized by relief groups increased from c. 100,000 in 1945 to nearly 1 million owing to definitional changes in who was considered to be a survivor. Because of this, Finkelstein repeatedly asserts that fraudulent claims were made on Switzerland, while accounts and assets in the US and Israel were ignored. Payments were made to the wrong people and real survivors lost out. Needless to say, the Jewish establishment and the State of Israel banned this book.

    On November 9, 2010, charges were filed in New York against seventeen people accused of taking more than $42 million from programs established to help Holocaust survivors. "The alleged fraud is as substantial as it is galling" said Preet Bharara, U.S. attorney for New York's Southern District, calling it a "perverse and pervasive fraud committed against a not-for-profit organization of historic significance." Over a period of almost 16 years, millions of dollars intended for Holocaust survivors "instead found its way into the pockets of corrupt employees of the Claims Conference and an elaborate network of fraudsters," Bharara told reporters. The money came from two funds managed by the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, also known as the Claims Conference, a nonprofit that was established almost 60 years ago to assist those harmed by Nazis. Six of the seventeen people charged with fraud and conspiracy are former and current employees of the Claims Conference, according to Bharara. He called Semen Domnitser the "ringleader" of the fraud, saying that for more than 10 years he served as the director and oversaw both the Hardship Fund and the Article Two Fund. The Hardship Fund makes one-time payments of about $3,600 to victims who were forced to leave their homes while fleeing advancing Nazis troops. Bharara said some 5,000 fraudulent applications worth $18 million were processed through the fund. The Article Two Fund gives pension payments of roughly $411 a month to those who earn less than $16,000 after taxes and spent a minimum of six months in a concentration camp or at least 18 months in a Jewish ghetto in hiding or living under a false identity to avoid the Nazis. Bharara said that this fund had processed over 650 fraudulent applications worth more than $25.5 million. Bharara said that applicants were recruited from the Russian-Jewish community and that fake birth dates, birthplaces and "fabricated stories of persecution, completely made up stories about what happened to these individuals during World War II," were written in their applications.

    Four of the arrested people have already admitted the fraud. Thus, the machinery behind the frauds described by Finkelstein years ago has been now exposed. Probably, similar frauds would be bare in the next years. There is a good chance that the fraudulent activities of the State of Israel – disguised under group appliances managed by that state – would be finally made public.

    Is the Jewish establishment committing serious crimes for the sake of a few million dollars? Does that justify the danger of tainting their reputation? Or is the reason behind these crimes a different one? Israel may be an illegitimate and criminal state, but its leaders are not such big fools. Probably, the money laundering operation of Bank Hapoalim in Tel Aviv makes more money in any single day.

    The point is simple. The money doesn’t matter. The number of victims is the most important parameter here. It was the Holocaust
    that justified the foundation of the State of Israel by a UN resolution. But what happen if numbers were different? The Jewish obsession with the six million is not casual. What happens if the relative number of Jewish victims during WWII is lower than the ones suffered by the Roma people? The last didn’t get a country. Moreover, recently Romi people have been persecuted in France and Italy. What happens if the number of Jewish victims is comparable to the one of British, American, Russian or Arab ones?

    Then, a myth disappears. Then, we reach the Holocaust’s End, and with it, the end of a criminal state.

    Roy Tov – Holocaust’s End
     
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    In his December 13, 2001 interview with Don Atapattu Professor Finkelstein disappears a couple of myths:

    "It is generally considered that growing up Jewish and growing up Zionist are mutually inextricable. What made you break this link?

    "First of all, I don't agree that Zionism and growing up in a Jewish household are inextricably linked. It is fair to say that growing up Jewish and having a consciousness about Israel are inextricably linked.

    "As a Jew I felt that I bore a certain amount of responsibility for the policies of Israel because Israel claimed to speak in the name of the Jewish people, and therefore they were using the history and suffering of the Jewish people as a means to justify its policies.

    "However, my family were not Zionists, and therefore I see no special connection between the two.

    A little later Norman offers this family insight into "Chutzpah:"

    "A spokesman for the World Jewish Congress suggested that you should be grateful to organisations such as themselves, for the compensation that your parents received. Is there not some truth in that were it not for the awareness raising campaigns of these bodies, Holocaust survivors would not have been compensated at all?

    "These organisations frankly, bring to mind an insight of my late mother, that it is no accident that Jews invented the word "chutzpah".

    "They steal, and I do use the word with intent, 95% of the monies earmarked for victims of Nazi persecution, and then throw you a few crumbs while telling you to be grateful.

    "It is very hard to sink much lower than to turn the colossal suffering of the Jewish people during World War Two into an extortion racket.

    "I really think that not even Julius Streicher (leading anti Semitic publisher in 1930's Germany) were he editing Der Stuermer today, could have conjured up the image of Jews huckstering their dead, but that's exactly what this gang of wretched crooks have done.

    "They have disgraced the memory of the Jewish people's suffering on the one hand by turning it into an extortion racket.

    "If there were any doubt left, I would point to the recent London Times article headlined 'Swiss Holocaust cash revealed to be a myth', that is all the claims against the Swiss banks were a fantastic concoction of the Holocaust hustlers.

    "But then after turning Jewish suffering into an extortion racket.to then deny the actual victims these monies extorted..it is very difficult to imagine sinking any lower on a moral level than that. If they were all put behind bars, it wouldn't be yet, in my opinion, be a just punishment."

    Finally...

    "Do you think The Holocaust Industry would have been published were you not the Jewish son of Holocaust survivors?

    (Laughs) No, I have no doubt about that. First of all, it just got barely published as the son of Holocaust survivors If I weren't, there would be no chance at all.I would have been buried alive..."

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    That's the same Finkelstein fired by every college that has employed him, leaving Norman chronically unemployed. DePaul's reason for firing Norman was psychological issues.

    Norman is as nutty as Muhammad and his crazy followers :lol:
     
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    Bad Arolsen Holocaust Archive


    The archives contain 50 million pages, housed in thousands of filing cabinets in 6 buildings. Overall, there are 16 miles of shelves holding information about the victims of the Nazis.

    The documents - scraps of paper, transport lists, registration books, labor documents, medical records, and finally death registers – record the arrest, transportation and extermination of the victims. In some case, even the amount and size of the lice found on the prisoners’ heads were recorded.

    This archive contains the famous Schindler’s List, with the names of 1,000 prisoners saved by factory owner Oskar Schindler who told the Nazis he needed the prisoners to work in his factory.

    Records of Anne Frank’s journey from Amsterdam to Bergen-Belsen, where she died at the age of 15, can also be found among the millions of documents in this archive.

    The Mauthausen concentration camp’s “Totenbuch”, or Death Book, records in meticulous handwriting how on April 20, 1942, a prisoner was shot in the back of the head every two minutes for 90 hours. The Mauthausen camp commandant ordered these executions as a birthday present for Hitler.

    Toward the end of the war, when the Germans were struggling, the record keeping was not able to keep up with the extermination. And unknown numbers of prisoners were marched directly from trains to gas chambers in places like Auschwitz without being registered.

    Holocaust Records Archive - International Tracing Service ITS Bad Arolsen Germany - 16 Miles of Nazi Files


    The Germans and in particular the Nazis kept very meticulous records.
     
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    Norman's never been banned from USMB.

    Do you agree?

    How about his claim that "definitional changes in who was considered to be a survivor" increased the number of Jewish "survivors" of the Holocaust in 1945 from 100,000 to almost one million?

    Holocaust's End
     
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    Norman Finkelstein has been fired from every college he has worked at. Today, Norman is unemployed because he is mentally ill.

    Just like you, George. :lol:
     
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    So says the banned bitch.

    Care to list any books you've published?

    Still waiting for your Wiki...
     
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    I'm gainfully employed, unlike Norman Finkelstein, your fellow inmate :cuckoo:
     
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    Stealing your neighbor's land and water and killing their children?
     
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    The Muhammadan steals land and kills children.

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