Hollywood Dems Gather For 'hate Bush' Meeting At Hilton

[MtnBiker]

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN NOV 30, 2003 20:42:05 ET XXXXX

HOLLYWOOD DEMS GATHER FOR 'HATE BUSH' MEETING AT HILTON

**Exclusive**

Top Hollywood activists and intellectuals are planning to gather this week in Beverly Hills for an event billed as "Hate Bush,' the DRUDGE REPORT has learned!

Laurie David [wife of SEINFELD creator Larry David] has sent out invites to the planned Tuesday evening meeting at the Hilton with the bold heading: "Hate Bush 12/2 - Event"

The message reads:

"This is the most important meeting you can attend to prevent the advancement of the current extremist right wing agenda. Do not miss this meeting. This will be a high-level briefing to discuss the strategies... to affect what happens next November."

Political heavies Harold Ickes, Former Deputy White House Chief of Staff and Campaign Manager for the ¹96 Clinton/Gore re-elect, and Ellen Malcolm, Founder of Emily¹s List, a political action committee that elects pro-choice, Democratic women, will chair the gathering.

Names included on the "HATE BUSH" invite, obtained by DRUDGE, include:


Julie Bergman: producer ("G.I. Jane," "The Fabulous Baker Boys," "Washington Square"), daughter of Alan and Marilyn Bergman. Came up with the anti-Iraq war "silent protest" idea for Oscars where celebrities wore blue-and-green quarter-sized peace sign pins.


Scott Burns: "Got Milk?" campaign creator and producer of Arianna Huffington ad campaign which linked SUVs with terrorism.


Steve Byrnes & Jamie Mandelbaum: Jamie is an entertainment attroney at Armstrong, Hirsch -- represents Hillary Duff, Tori Spelling, among others.


Ariel "Ari" Emanuel: Emanuel is a founding partner of Endeavor Talent agency. Brother of White House Rahm and agent to West Wing Sorkin.


Naomi Foner: Screenwriter of RUNNING ON EMPTY, LOSING ISAIAH; executive producer of HOMEGROWN a comedy thriller set in northern California about inept but lovable pot farmers.


Cami Gordon: Children's book author lives in Pacific Palisades, Calif. Member of Mothers for Natural Law. Husband Howard, producer ("X-Files", "Strange World").


Robert Greenwald: Executive producer of the 2002 documentary, UNPRECEDENTED: THE 2000 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, about the "stealing" of the 2000 presidential election in Florida. Also produced CROOKED E: THE UNSHREDDED TRUTH ABOUT ENRON. He and Mike Farrell started "Artists United," a group of actors and other stars opposed to war in Iraq.


Sally Hardwicke: [no data].


Ruth Hunter: [no data].


Lyn Lear: Wife of Norman Lear.


Michelle Kydd Lee: Executive Director, Creative Artists Agency (CAA) Foundation.


Julia Louis-Dreyfus: 'SNL', 'Seinfeld' alum. Married to fellow SNL alum and sitcom producer Brad Hall.


Darcy Pollack: [no data].


Nancy Stephens: Actress (RUSSKIES), environmentalist.


Laure & Daniel Stern: Daniel is actor (CITY SLICKERS, HOME ALONE).


Anne & Jay Sures: Jay Sures is an agent at United Talent Agency. Hosted fund-raiser for Democratic presidential candidate General Wesley Clark his Brentwood home.


Marge Tabankin & Earl Katz: Tabankin is Barbra Streisand's philanthropic and political guru. Ran the Hollywood Women's Political Committee.


Katz is the executive producer of UNPRECEDENTED: THE 2000 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.


Heather Thomas: Actress ("The Fall Guy"), 80s pin-up model.


Elizabeth Wiatt: [no data].

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Hate Bush? Wouldn't be better to promote their ideology, agenda, or canidate rather than promoting hate?

 

[MtnBiker]

And I wonder what position these people have on hate crime legislation?

 

[jimnyc]

Shouldn't they be more concerned with what their nominee can do to improve the country? I'd be more interested in hearing about the record and capabilities of a candidate than who he/she hates. Oh well, to each their own.

 

[jimnyc]

Originally posted by MtnBiker
And I wonder what position these people have on hate crime legislation?

You would think they could have thought of a better way of promoting their agenda without showing off hatred.

 

[MtnBiker]

Perhaps it is they can't persued more people to their agenda.

 

[Psychoblues]

And does "Drudge" not promote hatred? And since when was "Drudge" considered any kind of a credible voice? Drudge and Limbaugh kinda go hand in hand on the money for hatred thing don't they?

 

[MtnBiker]

I haven't mentioned Limbaugh, how did he come into the picture?
Still doesn't change the topic at hand, the "Hate Bush" meeting.

How does Drudge promote hate?

 

[Psychoblues]

I think Drudge promotes hate as demonstrated in your original post. He obviously is opposed to any gathering of left thinking peoples and would enjoy that all Hollywood types be cast in that image. But that is all the right wing nuts have is to cast images and group adversaries in neat packages that are identifiable to the more unthinking, don' you think? As far as Limbaugh is concerned, I wish I didn't even know his name.

 

[MtnBiker]

Drudge reported on a scheduled meeting, with a list of names of people involved or invited to the meeting. There was no other comentary or opinion. (by Drudge)

But that is all the right wing nuts have is to cast images and group adversaries in neat packages that are identifiable to the more unthinking, don' you think?

No, I don't think so. I don't see any neat package here. It is not unthinkable that liberal Hollywood people would be involved in such a meeting( and they have every right to) and reporting on such meeting is not hate. But I do find it ironic that the meeting "Hate Bush" has not been adressed rather just the reporting of it.

 

[Psychoblues]

I think I can agree with you. But the media doesn't agree with either one of us. Do you think for a moment that Drudge or any of the other Right wingnut propagandists would agree that any left wing group might "have a right" to gather and purport democratic ideology? I've been closely reading and listening for years and I think not. That's the problem with right wingnuts. They don't have a democratic bone in their bodies!!! They even say that the lefties are somehow threatening their FREEDOMS. It will come to pass that this society will recognise that it is the corporations, collective right wing politics, and general misinformation from self proclaimed conservatives that is limiting, stifling, even THREATENING their freedoms. That's the way I see it.

 

[MtnBiker]

O.k. fine. View media for what you want. It still doesn't change the proposed meeting in Hollywood promoting hate.

 

[jimnyc]

Originally posted by Psychoblues
I think Drudge promotes hate as demonstrated in your original post. He obviously is opposed to any gathering of left thinking peoples and would enjoy that all Hollywood types be cast in that image. But that is all the right wing nuts have is to cast images and group adversaries in neat packages that are identifiable to the more unthinking, don' you think? As far as Limbaugh is concerned, I wish I didn't even know his name.

Drudge promotes hate by reporting about the Democratic supporters that gather for a meeting called "Hate Bush"? I think you've got your wires crossed!

 

[dijetlo]

Originally posted by jimnyc
Drudge promotes hate by reporting about the Democratic supporters that gather for a meeting called "Hate Bush"? I think you've got your wires crossed!

Oh come now, such innocence on the part of the right, what a pack of little angles...
Who were those people chasing Clinton around back in the 90s'? I'm glad they left the Republican party to make room for all you "anti-hate" activists
So what, they don't like him. A dem fundraiser gets noted in the drudge report, how about a republican $10,000 a plate dinner where you get to hear Cheny rant. Drudge ever go in and count heads, find out how many work for Big Oil and write and article about it? No? Than we can safely assume this is little more that partisan pap.
To bad about the article, I have the perfect tittle.
Petro-piggies deliver the bacon, Cheny squeels in delight...

 

[MtnBiker]

Democrats and liberals can have all the meetings and funder raisers they want. I was just questioning if a hate Bush message was the best approach for a policital agenda. I don't recall any hate meetings toward a democratic canidate.

 

[dijetlo]

Originally posted by MtnBiker
Democrats and liberals can have all the meetings and funder raisers they want. I was just questioning if a hate Bush message was the best approach for a policital agenda. I don't recall any hate meetings toward a democratic canidate.

Dude, there were people handing out "Impeach Clinton" bumper stickers in 1993. This is politics, pure and simple. The Dems are shaking the money tree, so are the repubs ("give now or that socialist Dean could be our next president!!!!!") Neither Candidate is going to run on a "hate" message, though both will try to play on our fears. My take on it is it's pap, nothing illegal, immoral or unethical about it but Drudge wants to write an expose. Read his list, these weren't "famous" hollywood types, so it really doesn't even qualify as celebrity news. What's the big deal, that they hate bush? IMHO He's the worst president since Hoover. As a president, I hate him, as a human being he seems like an all right guy. If he was a neighbor, I'd invite him over for barbeques and talk baseball with him.
The Republicans have to get back in the spirit of the Majority Party, their going to be critisized, their going to be disliked, it comes with sitting in the big chair up at 1600.

 

[MtnBiker]

O.k. , hate speech from Democrat supporters must be alright then and a good way to raise funds.

 

[dijetlo]

Originally posted by MtnBiker
O.k. , hate speech from Democrat supporters must be alright then and a good way to raise funds.

I don't think their is a wit of diference between the two (Reps and Dems) but you can certainly draw the line where you like...

 

[green lantern]

since the dawn of time, or since the invention of the republican and democratic parties, they have went after each other like rabid dogs. whoever is in power, expect the other party to dig dig and dig some more for any thing to help them return to power. power is like a drug, highly addictive, and when your party is out of power, you go through withdrawals. you do whatever it takes to return to power. sad but true, this is how our system works. if a credible third party ever arises, watch how fast the two main partys turn on the newcomer.

 

[MtnBiker]

Beware: Bush hatred is a minority taste

Democrats hate George Bush. No, that’s not graffiti scribbled on a men’s room wall at the Democratic National Committee. That deeply felt anger is shaping the Democratic primary contest. But it is doing so in a way that threatens our party’s ability to appeal to swing voters next year.

No one factor accounts for Democrats’ intense animosity. Indeed, almost any reason will do. Some are angry that he stole the election. Others are set off by the war. Still other Democrats find his support for special interests, or his environmental policy, or his tax cuts, or his halting locutions as reasons to detest Bush.

The level of animosity Bush arouses in Democrats appears unprecedented. The data are not strictly comparable, but in 1998, 75 percent of Republicans said Bill Clinton made them angry. Bush’s father could arouse the ire of only 64 percent of Democrats.

Today, Bush enrages nearly 90 percent of Democrats.

This intense anger is reflected in the posture Democrats want to take vis-à-vis Republicans. While the vast majority of Republicans and independents want the two parties to work together to solve problems, Democrats do not. They are spoiling for a fight. Many Democrats feel betrayed by what they see as an accommodationist party. These Democrats do not want compromise, conciliation or cooperation. They want political war.

As a result, the Democratic candidates for president have spent months beating Bush about the head and shoulders. At every debate and at every candidate appearance, the president takes a harsh and often personal, though well-deserved, thrashing.

This situation presents a simple political problem, however: Democrats are alone in their views. Democrats constitute the minority of Americans who abhor the president; swing independents (and, of course, Republicans) do not. They want presidents and members of Congress who will reach across party lines. They disagree with many of Bush’s policies. They dislike his priorities. They do not approve of many of his actions. They are distraught because he favors special interests over the needs of ordinary citizens. But swing voters do not hate Bush. Many, somehow, actually like him.

In response to a Los Angeles Times poll question, 68 percent of independents said they like Bush. A Zogby poll found only 31 percent of Democrats proud to have Bush as president, compared to 51 percent of independents. The Los Angeles Times found that 43 percent of independents thought Bush understood the problems of people like them, compared to just 19 percent of Democrats.

In reality, the Democratic base is out of sync with swing voters. The Democrats’ visceral anger with Bush is but the prime example of this disconnect. The war in Iraq is another. By a 42-point margin, Democrats say removing Saddam was not worth the cost, according to a CBS poll. But independents say it was worth the cost, by a 13-point margin.

Of course, the Republican base also is out of sync with swing voters on a host of issues — from choice to education to the minimum wage. Presidents, though, can hide the disjunction between the base and the swing. Presidents help create the agenda, dominate the channels of communication and enforce discipline.

Our presidential candidates, by contrast, must compete with other Democrats for the party’s base. On policy issues, the problems largely can be evaded. Seemingly incongruous issue positions can be reconciled or emphasized differently. Witness former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean’s new emphasis on balanced budgets and his National Rifle Association support.

But emotions are communicated much more readily and much more clearly than policy positions. Emotions create images from which it is hard to escape. If Democrats offer only anger, we will excite ourselves but swing voters won’t buy in.


Mark S. Mellman is president of The Mellman Group and has worked for Democratic candidates and causes since 1982.
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[Palestinian Jew]

I hate to break to you hardcore rightwingers, but oreilly said on "the factor" that the gathering was not called "hate bush" and oreilly himself said it was unfair to call it that. then, after the meeting took place, oreilly had a guy from "the jewish review", a conservative news org., and the guy said that there was no hate towards bush and they were simply discussing how they could try to get bush out of office.