Holder Criticizing Bill He Hasn't Even Read...

[Soggy in NOLA]

Obama is a race pimp just like Sharpton. A little better spoken, but just as evil.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The AZ bill mirrors the Fed bill.

Wonder if Holder will sue all Govt employees who follow the Fed law when arresting illegals?? LOL

It does? Please provide one specific example from the AZ bill and how it mirrors the "Fed law"?

From all I've read about this new AZ law, it was very carefully written and crafted to to mirror the Fed immigration laws. I've watched several channels about it and they all say the same.

If you want to look it up yourself and prove me wrong.

Feel free.

Her is one link you might find interesting to read

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1215

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From rule 41:
(c) Persons or Property Subject to Search or Seizure.
A warrant may be issued for any of the following:

(1) evidence of a crime; (NOT a Reasonable Suspicion)

(2) contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed;

(3) property designed for use, intended for use, or used in committing a crime; or

(4) a person to be arrested or a person who is unlawfully restrained.
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And, (A) “Property” includes documents, books, papers, any other tangible objects, and information.

 

[VaYank5150]

The AZ bill mirrors the Fed bill.

Wonder if Holder will sue all Govt employees who follow the Fed law when arresting illegals?? LOL

It does? Please provide one specific example from the AZ bill and how it mirrors the "Fed law"?

From all I've read about this new AZ law, it was very carefully written and crafted to to mirror the Fed immigration laws. I've watched several channels about it and they all say the same.

If you want to look it up yourself and prove me wrong.

Feel free.

Her is one link you might find interesting to read

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1215

Thank you for admitting YOU have not read the bill either and you are commenting based on basically NO knowledge of it. You rock!

 

[Biggles]

From Foxnews:

The following is a partial transcript of the House Judiciary Committee hearing with Attorney General Eric Holder. This portion contains the exchange between Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, and Attorney General Eric Holder over whether Holder has read the Arizona immigration law:

REP. TED POE: So Arizona, since the federal government fails to secure the border, desperately passed laws to protect its own people. The law is supported by 70 percent of the people in Arizona, 60 percent of all Americans and 50 percent of all Hispanics, according to The Wall Street Journal/NBC poll done just this week. And I understand that you may file a lawsuit against the law. It seems to me the administration ought to be enforcing border security and immigration laws and not challenge them and that the administration is on the wrong side of the American people. Have you read the Arizona law?

ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER: I have not had a chance to -- I've glanced at it. I have not read it.

POE: It's 10 pages. It's a lot shorter than the health care bill, which was 2,000 pages long. I'll give you my copy of it, if you would like to -- to have a copy.

Even though you haven't read the law, do you have an opinion as to whether it's constitutional

HOLDER: I have not really -- I have not been briefed yet. We, as I said, have had underway a review of the law. I have not been briefed by the people who have been responsible -- who are responsible for that review.

POE: Are you going to read the law?

HOLDER: I'm sure I will read the law in anticipation of that briefing. I know that they will put that in front of me, and I'll spend a good evening reading that law.

POE: Well, I've gone through it. And it's pretty simple. It takes the federal law and makes it -- enacts it in a state statute, although makes it much more refined in that it actually says in one of the sections that no state or subdivision may consider race, color, national origin in implementing the requirements of any subsection of this law.

It seems to outlaw racial profiling in the law. I know there's been a lot of media hype about the -- the legislation. Do you see a difference in the constitutionality of a statute and the constitutionality of the application of that statute? Do you see there's a difference in those two?

HOLDER: Sure, there is a potential for challenging a law on its face and then challenging a law as it is applied. So there are two bases for challenging a particular statute.

POE: And when do you think you will have an opinion as to whether the law is constitutional?

HOLDER: I've used this term a lot, but I think this is -- I think relatively soon. I think that we have to -- there has been much discussion about this. The review is underway. The Department of Justice along with the Department of Homeland Security is involved in this review. And I would expect it -- our view of the law will be expressed relatively soon.

POE: You have some concerns about the statute. And it's -- it's hard for me to understand how you would have concerns about something being unconstitutional if you hadn't even read the law.
It seems like you wouldn't make a judgment about whether it violates civil rights statutes, whether it violates federal preemption concepts if you haven't read the law. So can you help me out there a little bit, how you can make a judgment call on -- on that, but you haven't read the law and determined whether it's constitutional or not?

HOLDER: Well, what I've said is that I've not made up my mind. I've only made -- made the comments that I've made on the basis of things that I've been able to glean by reading newspaper accounts, obviously, television, talking to people who are on the review panel, on the review team looking at the law.

But I've not reached any conclusions as yet with regard to -- I've just expressed concerns on the basis of what I've heard about the law. But I'm not in a position to say at this point, not having read the law, not having had the chance to interact with the people who are doing the review, exactly what my position is.

Holder is a fool. He makes BS comments and opinions based on his political bias. And this is the US Attorney General. What a joke...just like the rest of Obama's picks.

 

[MaggieMae]

Despite repeatedly voicing concerns about Arizona's new immigration enforcement law in recent weeks and threatening to challenge it, Attorney General Eric Holder said Thursday he has not yet read the law -- which is only 10 pages long.
"I have not had a chance to -- I've glanced at it," Holder said at a House Judiciary Committee hearing when asked had he read the state law cracking down on illegal immigrants.

Much more: FOXNews.com - Holder Admits to Not Reading Arizona's Immigration Law Despite Criticizing It

"Haven't had a chance to read it" is code for "I'm not going to comment on it." A non-issue, but I see you had to post it twice. Grasping at straws are we?

 

[AquaAthena]

Despite repeatedly voicing concerns about Arizona's new immigration enforcement law in recent weeks and threatening to challenge it, Attorney General Eric Holder said Thursday he has not yet read the law -- which is only 10 pages long.
"I have not had a chance to -- I've glanced at it," Holder said at a House Judiciary Committee hearing when asked had he read the state law cracking down on illegal immigrants.

Much more: FOXNews.com - Holder Admits to Not Reading Arizona's Immigration Law Despite Criticizing It

"Haven't had a chance to read it" is code for "I'm not going to comment on it." A non-issue, but I see you had to post it twice. Grasping at straws are we?

If I posted it twice, that is my error, for I had not intended to. It isn't however worth the effort for me to go back in and check your statement for facts. It's really a small thing.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Despite repeatedly voicing concerns about Arizona's new immigration enforcement law in recent weeks and threatening to challenge it, Attorney General Eric Holder said Thursday he has not yet read the law -- which is only 10 pages long.
"I have not had a chance to -- I've glanced at it," Holder said at a House Judiciary Committee hearing when asked had he read the state law cracking down on illegal immigrants.

Much more: FOXNews.com - Holder Admits to Not Reading Arizona's Immigration Law Despite Criticizing It

"Haven't had a chance to read it" is code for "I'm not going to comment on it." A non-issue, but I see you had to post it twice. Grasping at straws are we?

If I posted it twice, that is my error, for I had not intended to. It isn't however worth the effort for me to go back in and check your statement for facts. It's really a small thing.

What is funny is her claiming someone would admit they had not read a bill they had made extensive public comments in a negative way on as meaning no comment. And further thinking that is a wise thing to do.

 

[MaggieMae]

"Haven't had a chance to read it" is code for "I'm not going to comment on it." A non-issue, but I see you had to post it twice. Grasping at straws are we?

If I posted it twice, that is my error, for I had not intended to. It isn't however worth the effort for me to go back in and check your statement for facts. It's really a small thing.

What is funny is her claiming someone would admit they had not read a bill they had made extensive public comments in a negative way on as meaning no comment. And further thinking that is a wise thing to do.

I didn't say it was wise; I said it's what they do (and that would include previous members of the previous administration), and most congresscritters when put on the spot on television or during an interview that will immediately go up on YouTube.

 

[Si modo]

I suppose the expectation bar has been lowered because the Dems are in power. Holder's criticism of a bill he hasn't read is, at least, more tolerable than signing a bill into law that you haven't read.

Those Dems have the secret - screw up so much that typical political screw ups look good in comparison.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

I've been saying this since this whole contrived controversy began. Just about all Socialist/Progressive Democrats who are whining incessantly about this Arizona Law have not even read it. This obviously includes Holder. These people don't even read their own Legislation they vote on in Congress. It's all just another Socialist/Progressive "Community Organizer" contrived scam in the end. They will stir up racial division any chance they get. It's all in Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals.' This Arizona law is completely reasonable and not racist in any way. The Democrats see an advantage in stirring up racial tension so this is just par for the course for them. They see votes and it really is that simple. Nuff said.

 

[Claudette]

It does? Please provide one specific example from the AZ bill and how it mirrors the "Fed law"?

From all I've read about this new AZ law, it was very carefully written and crafted to to mirror the Fed immigration laws. I've watched several channels about it and they all say the same.

If you want to look it up yourself and prove me wrong.

Feel free.

Her is one link you might find interesting to read

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1215

Thank you for admitting YOU have not read the bill either and you are commenting based on basically NO knowledge of it. You rock!

I haven't read the bill, neither have you.

I do however watch the news and read my friend.

Everything I've read and heard has been to the effect that the AZ bill mirrors Fed immigrations laws verbatum.

As I said. You wanna read it, feel free. Take notes.

Be sure you let me know if all the news media and newspapers and articles are lying.

Oh and BTW I do ROCK in capital letters. LOL

 

[VaYank5150]

From all I've read about this new AZ law, it was very carefully written and crafted to to mirror the Fed immigration laws. I've watched several channels about it and they all say the same.

If you want to look it up yourself and prove me wrong.

Feel free.

Her is one link you might find interesting to read

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1215

Thank you for admitting YOU have not read the bill either and you are commenting based on basically NO knowledge of it. You rock!

I haven't read the bill, neither have you.

I do however watch the news and read my friend.

Everything I've read and heard has been to the effect that the AZ bill mirrors Fed immigrations laws verbatum.

As I said. You wanna read it, feel free. Take notes.

Be sure you let me know if all the news media and newspapers and articles are lying.

Oh and BTW I do ROCK in capital letters. LOL

I have NOT read the bill. The difference is I am not on a message board pretending to know what is in it. That would be YOU.

 

[txlonghorn]

Obama picked some real winners, didn't he? NOT!

I guess that depends on the contest...they definitely win the "I'M AN INCOMPETENT ASS" contest


What' is so funny is that in a previous thread, I was having an argument with a brain dead lib about why the Tea Party was organized and that it had to do with the incompetence of this president had his ENTIRE administration...it had nothing to do with race. It's all about incompetence.

And Eric Holder has proven my point.

 

[Claudette]

Thank you for admitting YOU have not read the bill either and you are commenting based on basically NO knowledge of it. You rock!

I haven't read the bill, neither have you.

I do however watch the news and read my friend.

Everything I've read and heard has been to the effect that the AZ bill mirrors Fed immigrations laws verbatum.

As I said. You wanna read it, feel free. Take notes.

Be sure you let me know if all the news media and newspapers and articles are lying.

Oh and BTW I do ROCK in capital letters. LOL

I have NOT read the bill. The difference is I am not on a message board pretending to
know what is in it. That would be YOU.

No pretending about it.

If you think what I've posted is wrong. If you think what I've read and heard is wrong then by all means read the bill and point out where it doesn't mirror the Fed immigration laws.

Feel free my friend. Don't forget to take those notes then you can let us ALL know if its been reported correctly. LOL

BTW I never said that I read it. Only that eveything I've heard and read ABOUT it says it mirors the Fed Immigration laws.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

When do Socialist/Progressive Democrats read Legislation? Just look at our current Dem-led 'Worst Congress in U.S. History.' Yikes!

 

[boedicca]

Hmmmmm....the Obama Administration can defend the passage of a 2,700 page bill that nobody was able to read in full...but cannot take the time to read a 17 page bill from AZ before spewing criticism.

How Transparent!

 

[Contumacious]

Holder Criticizing Bill He Hasn't Even Read...

I don't think he can read German.

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[Gatekeeper]

IF there is ANYTHING left of the United States of America by election time(s) I am voting almost everyone I can OUT. All career politicians have to be history. There are more people in Washington D.C. today with this administration that are just plain "Numb Nutz". While we sit here tolerating their destructive 'leadership' day after day blogging our displeasure.

All I can say is, that I hope when the elections come around all those who are fed up with this type of incompetence, including myself, vote these confused individuals with their 'personal agenda oriented' projects and 'pay back our buddies' type politicians,out of office, once and for all. I hope it's not just a lot of drum beating until the time comes for people to put up or shut up. I am convinced that this time most will put up, if not, we won't have enough money or freedom left to do anything but dream of the 'old days' while living in government housing, provided with food, medical and red shoulder and hat badges for those who comply voluntarily.

 

[txlonghorn]

Hmmmmm....the Obama Administration can defend the passage of a 2,700 page bill that nobody was able to read in full...but cannot take the time to read a 17 page bill from AZ before spewing criticism.

How Transparent!

oh they are transparent alright...I see right their bullshit

 

[Dr.House]

It does? Please provide one specific example from the AZ bill and how it mirrors the "Fed law"?

From all I've read about this new AZ law, it was very carefully written and crafted to to mirror the Fed immigration laws. I've watched several channels about it and they all say the same.

If you want to look it up yourself and prove me wrong.

Feel free.

Her is one link you might find interesting to read

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1215

Thank you for admitting YOU have not read the bill either and you are commenting based on basically NO knowledge of it. You rock!

Except SHE knows more about it than YOU...

You, well, don't rock at all!