Hitchens puts the left in their place

[Kalam]

Conservatives like him because of his views on foreign policy and politics, he may be a 'socialist' but certainly not a 'socialist' calling for the destruction of Israel, the death of free speech and of all western civilization.

To his credit, he isn't as much of a groveling supporter of Zionism as you are.

 

[Marc39]

Conservatives like him because of his views on foreign policy and politics, he may be a 'socialist' but certainly not a 'socialist' calling for the destruction of Israel, the death of free speech and of all western civilization.

To his credit, he isn't as much of a groveling supporter of Zionism as you are.

Martin Luther King, Jr. was a groveling supporter of Zionism...
I see Israel as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality.


You're a groveling supporter of backward, failed, oppressive Arab Muslim totalitarian shitholes founded by followers of a cult invented by an illiterate, cave-dwelling pedophile.

 

[Kalam]

Conservatives like him because of his views on foreign policy and politics, he may be a 'socialist' but certainly not a 'socialist' calling for the destruction of Israel, the death of free speech and of all western civilization.

To his credit, he isn't as much of a groveling supporter of Zionism as you are.

Case in point - you pal around with Jewish lolcows like Marc39, who still doesn't seem to have caught on to the fact that I don't acknowledge his posts any more than I acknowledge the legitimacy of his backward country.

 

[Marc39]

Conservatives like him because of his views on foreign policy and politics, he may be a 'socialist' but certainly not a 'socialist' calling for the destruction of Israel, the death of free speech and of all western civilization.

To his credit, he isn't as much of a groveling supporter of Zionism as you are.

Case in point - you pal around with Jewish lolcows like Marc39, who still doesn't seem to have caught on to the fact that I don't acknowledge his posts any more than I acknowledge the legitimacy of his backward country.

Who's backward, camel driver?

The Arab Muslim countries are last in every category, from education to healthcare to literacy to productivity to industrial development.

One-third of all Arabs--over 100 million--are illiterate and one half of all Arab women are illiterate, according to the Arab League.

Israel has produced 6 Nobel Prize winners. 60 Muslim shitholes have produced only 2.

Israel's per capita income is 3x that of Turkey.

Israel, in contrast, is one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous countries in the world.

New York Times: Israel The Silicon Valley of the Middle East...

Jews are a famously accomplished group. They make up 0.2 percent of the world population, but 54 percent of the world chess champions, 27 percent of the Nobel physics laureates and 31 percent of the medicine laureates. Jews make up 2 percent of the U.S. population, but 21 percent of the Ivy League student bodies, 26 percent of the Kennedy Center honorees, 37 percent of the Academy Award-winning directors, 38 percent of those on a recent Business Week list of leading philanthropists, 51 percent of the Pulitzer Prize winners for nonfiction.

Tel Aviv has become one of the world's foremost entrepreneurial hot spots. Israel has more high-tech start-ups per capita than any other nation on earth, by far. It leads the world in civilian research-and-development spending per capita. It ranks second behind the U.S. in the number of companies listed on the Nasdaq. Israel, with seven million people, attracts as much venture capital as France and Germany combined.

The Tel Aviv cluster - Sun Sentinel


Suck on that, virgin chaser.

 

[Marc39]

Conservatives like him because of his views on foreign policy and politics, he may be a 'socialist' but certainly not a 'socialist' calling for the destruction of Israel, the death of free speech and of all western civilization.

To his credit, he isn't as much of a groveling supporter of Zionism as you are.

Case in point - you pal around with Jewish lolcows like Marc39, who still doesn't seem to have caught on to the fact that I don't acknowledge his posts any more than I acknowledge the legitimacy of his backward country.

Bill Gates...

Israel is by many measures the country, relative to its population, that's done the most to contribute to the technology revolution

Warren Buffett...

If you go to the Middle East looking for oil, you don't even stop at Israel. But, if you go looking for brains, for energy and for integrity, Israel is the only stop you make.

CNBC...

When you look at the NASDAQ, companies are listed from around the world. There's one country, though, that truly stands out and that is Israel

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHStBGk_D8Y[/ame]

 

[Marc39]

I don't acknowledge his posts any more than I acknowledge the legitimacy of his backward country.

I don't acknowledge the legitimacy of virtually every Arab country that didn't even exist as an independent country prior to World War I.

Israel existed not once but twice in antiquity.

Your so-called prophet isn't even legitimate but was an illiterate cave-dweller laughed out of Mecca by his own people for being a charlatan who ripped off the Jews in inventing the scam cult of Islam

Fucking losers.

 

[hipeter924]

Conservatives like him because of his views on foreign policy and politics, he may be a 'socialist' but certainly not a 'socialist' calling for the destruction of Israel, the death of free speech and of all western civilization.

To his credit, he isn't as much of a groveling supporter of Zionism as you are.

No I am an unapologetic supporter of the west (that includes Israel). What? Do you want me to be one of those pathetic sell outs you can see in this video?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFuJz0hA5rc[/ame]

Like westerners pleading with the Muslims to spare their precious life, and make them the family dog. I prefer to say whatever I like and do whatever I like, and if death comes then...it can be known I pissed on my enemies all the way, and as a rule the west is worth dying for, and that's the only thing Muslims and Westerner's can agree on.

 

[Kalam]

No I am an unapologetic supporter of the west (that includes Israel). What? Do you want me to be one of those pathetic sell outs you can see in this video?

I don't really care what you are, but expect to be ridiculed if you're mentally deficient enough to toe the Israeli line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFuJz0hA5rc

Hilarious. This is exactly the sort of propaganda crap I was talking about in my post on the Rachel Corrie thread. Anybody who thinks that they're receiving accurate information from a group called "Jihad Watch" probably spends their spare time huffing paint and lighting farts on fire. Here's something equivalent:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDUOVErmxYg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDUOVErmxYg[/ame]

Like westerners pleading with the Muslims to spare their precious life, and make them the family dog. I prefer to say whatever I like and do whatever I like, and if death comes then...it can be known I pissed on my enemies all the way, and as a rule the west is worth dying for, and that's the only thing Muslims and Westerner's can agree on.

You assume several things that aren't true. The first is that Islam is monolithic and that its followers all share the same goals. The second is that most of us give a damn about the West beyond its interference in the Muslim world's affairs. You're one of those people who wants Islam to consider you an enemy for some incomprehensible reason... you have plenty of company here at USMB. What you all fail to realize is that, as said, none of us really care what you do as long as it doesn't adversely effect us.

 

[hipeter924]

No I am an unapologetic supporter of the west (that includes Israel). What? Do you want me to be one of those pathetic sell outs you can see in this video?

I don't really care what you are, but expect to be ridiculed if you're mentally deficient enough to toe the Israeli line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFuJz0hA5rc

Hilarious. This is exactly the sort of propaganda crap I was talking about in my post on the Rachel Corrie thread. Anybody who thinks that they're receiving accurate information from a group called "Jihad Watch" probably spends their spare time huffing paint and lighting farts on fire. Here's something equivalent:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDUOVErmxYg[/ame]

Like westerners pleading with the Muslims to spare their precious life, and make them the family dog. I prefer to say whatever I like and do whatever I like, and if death comes then...it can be known I pissed on my enemies all the way, and as a rule the west is worth dying for, and that's the only thing Muslims and Westerner's can agree on.

You assume several things that aren't true. The first is that Islam is monolithic and that its followers all share the same goals. The second is that most of us give a damn about the West beyond its interference in the Muslim world's affairs. You're one of those people who wants Islam to consider you an enemy for some incomprehensible reason... you have plenty of company here at USMB. What you all fail to realize is that, as said, none of us really care what you do as long as it doesn't adversely effect us.

Your life is propaganda, so don't even start that. You know very well it says in the Koran that non Muslims are the enemy and it is your duty as a Muslim to make war on non-Muslims and convert them to Islam or likewise subjugate them under Islam, that you deny that proves you are part of the "Islam is peace" crowd, in which case you fail to understand reality, let alone stupidity.

Finally I think we should have a gay radio station, and air it across Gaza and the Palestinian territories to Muslims, with sex scenes between gay Jews and Mohammad actors a must, it will soon be the most listened to in the middle east, and cause mass hysteria among extreme orthodox Jews and Palestinian Muslims at worse case scenario, and at best case scenario mock the Free Palestine movement, call it Mohammad's harem.

 

[Si modo]

It's funny, in an odd way, to see a religion as a political entity. As one who was born and raised in the USA and one who holds the Constitution in high regard, this concept of a religion as a political entity is so very foreign to me. I laugh at all fundies who use their religion to argue politics and policy.

'Muslim world', to me, means the theocracies in the Middle East. Yes, the USA has an ambassador to the Holy See, too. I wonder how many peace talks we have with them. Maybe they should threaten the USA and Americans with death if Roe v Wade isn't overturned, for example; then State could actually have peace talks with them rather than discussions as to which china is most appropriate for dinner.

 

[Marc39]

You assume several things that aren't true. The first is that Islam is monolithic and that its followers all share the same goals.

Islam is monolithic, slave of allah. There is only one flavor of Islam: Islam.

You either follow the shariah and the sunnah of Muhammad down to the letter, or, you are an apostate, which is what you are. No virgin chasing in paradise for you, sucker!

Quran 15:9...
We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).

Quran 33.21...
Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.

 

[Marc39]

I don't really care what you are, but expect to be ridiculed if you're mentally deficient enough to toe the Israeli line.

You toe the line of a death cult invented by an illiterate, cave-dwelling pedophile whose own people in Mecca laughed his Arab ass out of town for being a complete charlatan.

Were it not for the promise of virgin chasing in paradise and fucking captured women in caravan raids, Mo would never have converted anyone to his idiotic cult.

Loser.

 

[u2scram]

""While Turkey continues to blather on about its innocence--the systematic killing of hundreds of thousands of male Armenians""

america does much the same with vietnam. denies any wrong doing despite 3 million casualties, carpet bombing and agent orange. few nations are innocent of such deeds. you just have to go back far enough.

so whats your point and whats it got to do with the left?

 

[Marc39]

""While Turkey continues to blather on about its innocence--the systematic killing of hundreds of thousands of male Armenians""

america does much the same with vietnam. denies any wrong doing despite 3 million casualties, carpet bombing and agent orange. few nations are innocent of such deeds. you just have to go back far enough.

so whats your point and whats it got to do with the left?

America was the first to provide humanitarian relief to the Muslim trash in Indonesia after the tsunami and had to fight Kuwait's battle against IRaq in the Gulf War.

You backward fuckers can't even take care of your own business.

 

[MelissaD]

""While Turkey continues to blather on about its innocence--the systematic killing of hundreds of thousands of male Armenians""

america does much the same with vietnam. denies any wrong doing despite 3 million casualties, carpet bombing and agent orange. few nations are innocent of such deeds. you just have to go back far enough.

so whats your point and whats it got to do with the left?

America was the first to provide humanitarian relief to the Muslim trash in Indonesia after the tsunami and had to fight Kuwait's battle against IRaq in the Gulf War.

You backward fuckers can't even take care of your own business.

Sorry Marc but the US fought the Kuwait war over oil, to keep it in their sphere of infuence...

Also, Americans rush into places like Indonesia right after a hurricane for the PR, not for long term help, just look at Haiti.

 

[Si modo]

""While Turkey continues to blather on about its innocence--the systematic killing of hundreds of thousands of male Armenians""

america does much the same with vietnam. denies any wrong doing despite 3 million casualties, carpet bombing and agent orange. few nations are innocent of such deeds. you just have to go back far enough.

so whats your point and whats it got to do with the left?

America was the first to provide humanitarian relief to the Muslim trash in Indonesia after the tsunami and had to fight Kuwait's battle against IRaq in the Gulf War.

You backward fuckers can't even take care of your own business.

Sorry Marc but the US fought the Kuwait war over oil, to keep it in their sphere of infuence...

Also, Americans rush into places like Indonesia right after a hurricane for the PR, not for long term help, just look at Haiti.

Ah, so we shouldn't do what we did for Indonesia or Haiti. Got it.

Go figure the mentality of the left.

 

[code1211]

Was his rambling incoherent speech an argument? What is there to respond to? The guy isn't fighting in the war. All this guy does is write books for the average know-it-all jack-ass.

Hipeter fails to see this since that's precisely his style of argument. At least, unlike Hipeter, Hitchens has the balls to criticize Zionism as well.

The problem with any Theocrat is that the religious part of their cracy is more important than the people part. It has given rise to much of the evil in the world whether it is a Christian or Muslim Theocracy in question.

At its base, the theocracy is only a method to motivate the faithful to conspire with the leaders to accomplish goals that the leaders hold dear. Since religion deals with the metaphysical and politcs deals with the physical, it's like using a Buick as an airplane.

It might start well, but it will end badly.

 

[MelissaD]

America was the first to provide humanitarian relief to the Muslim trash in Indonesia after the tsunami and had to fight Kuwait's battle against IRaq in the Gulf War.

You backward fuckers can't even take care of your own business.

Sorry Marc but the US fought the Kuwait war over oil, to keep it in their sphere of infuence...

Also, Americans rush into places like Indonesia right after a hurricane for the PR, not for long term help, just look at Haiti.

Ah, so we shouldn't do what we did for Indonesia or Haiti. Got it.

Go figure the mentality of the left.

What I'm saying is that just look at haiti for example, the place is a mess still and all the foreigners have pretty much gone home. So it's mainly PR help, when the PR is used up, they leave, regardless of whether things are better or not.

Like look how long it took the government to do anything in New Orleans, that's because there was no worldwide PR to be had.