History? SUCKERS!

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    It can be spoken but fear and denial will cause many to attack you.
     
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    It can be spoken but fear and denial

    will cause many . . . . . . to attack you.

    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ (all white people) ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
     
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    "History is written by the victors"....attributed to Winston Churchill. It's true of course, drunken U.S. Grant and clinically insane Wm. T. Sherman would probably have been hanged as war criminals if the South had prevailed in the conflict. Any modern day or even 20th century general who claimed to be "God's terrible swift sword" and burned a city full of wounded men and civilians would have been relieved of duty and imprisoned. Today the "burning of Atlanta" is historically portrayed as part of a successful campaign. In contrast John Brown is viewed as a sort of folk hero by "historians" even though he was hanged by the Union Army for his part in the aborted raid on Harpers Ferry
     
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    It has also been attributed to Walter Benjamin. I have seen it suggested that Machiavelli used the phrase in his work The Prince. My guess is, there is no real hard evidence that could link the phrase to any one person...
     
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    Who said this. ":In war, truth is the first casualty."
     
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    History is a proper subject for a forum, not a thread. If you want to talk about political journalism in the U.S., it has been going on since the earliest days of the republic. However, it had not spilled over into historical journalism until the 1940s, when Joseph Kennedy decided to rehabilitate his pre-WW2 appeasement statements about Nazi Germany in order to promote the political careers of his sons.

    As a result, JFK's wartime misdeeds (dating a Nazi spy in Hawaii and allowing his PT boat to be sunk) have purged from the historical record, as have his fraudulent political campaigns and secret deals with Krushchev during the so-called Cuban Missile Crisis. This continued with the historical misrepresentation of the Watergate "scandal" and suppression of the Clintons' crooked political and business dealings. The final corruption of historical journalism began with the Presidential candidacy of Barack Obama, whose election was considered such an important event as to warrant the complete abolition of critical journalistic reporting. This trend has continued with the election of Donald Trump, albeit with an opposite motivation.

    Ironically, this corruption is finally sowing the seeds of its own demise. Modern journalist/historians have proven themselves to be so biased that their opinions are largely ignored. Good for them.
     
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    Wonder what the history of history is like? Has history changed since Napoleon's time?
    Can anyone write history? Why is history a requirement in schools? Is history a science?
     

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