history lesson on SS

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    With the elections just a little over 3 months away you'll soon be hearing some Democrats running for political office, warning how the Republicans want to take away the old people's Social Security.

    Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this it's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what's what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican.
    Facts are Facts:
    Social Security Cards, issued in 1934, and up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and that card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.


    When Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

    1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,

    No longer Voluntary


    2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,

    Now 7.65% on the first $90,000


    3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,

    No longer tax deductible


    4.) That the money the participants put into the independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program.
    Under Johnson, another Democrat, the money was moved to The General Fund and Spent


    5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

    Under Clinton & Gore, Democrats, Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed

    Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put away' for us -- you may be interested in the following:

    Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

    A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratically controlled House and Senate.

    Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

    A: The Democratic Party.

    Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

    A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the U.S.

    Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

    AND MY FAVORITE:

    A: That's right!

    Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.


    Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

    Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

    And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!
     
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    Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

    AND MY FAVORITE:

    A: That's right!

    Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.


    Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

    Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

    And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!


    Worth saying twice.
     
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    This is my favorite thing about SS...and the only thing that matters...

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    You need to pay in 40 quarters before you are eligible for SS. Can you show me where Immigrants get it for free without paying in?

    Sounds like rightwing mythology
     
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    This is part of discussions I've had with friends. Besides taking SS from the American public and putting into the General Fund, the fact that our elected officials continue to generate legislation (with riders protecting their finances, the their constituents), should make it clear that it's about time to step up and get more active in our government -- just sitting back and complaining does nothing to fix the problem. If we have to kick them all out, then maybe that's what we need to do to get real about the issues we're experiencing right now. This is backed up through several references I've checked.
     
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    That FDR thing and SS rises up every so often, it gets shot down, and then quiet reigns for a time, and then bingo up again. The boards have about twenty of these risers. Hitler was a socialist is another; maybe a list should be kept?
    A president can't promise anything binding on future presidents. Congress passed SS and Congress can change SS and has changed it many times since. Even during Reagan's term it was altered big time, but it was the Congress that passed the laws and Reagan signed.
     

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