Hirohito and Franco

[ginscpy]

both died natural deaths as leaders of their countries.

Both should have been tried and executed for war crimes.

Nobody was about to try Stalin lol - rights of the victors....................

 

[Douger]

The same will be said about Bush and Blair.

 

[rightwinger]

Both Hirohito and Franco are still dead

News at eleven

 

[Artevelde]

both died natural deaths as leaders of their countries.

Both should have been tried and executed for war crimes.

Nobody was about to try Stalin lol - rights of the victors....................

Considering Spain was not involved in any wars under Franco, what war crimes should he have been charges with?

Simplifications are often a cover for simple lies.

 

[Artevelde]

The same will be said about Bush and Blair.

More stupid slogans.

 

[ginscpy]

both died natural deaths as leaders of their countries.

Both should have been tried and executed for war crimes.

Nobody was about to try Stalin lol - rights of the victors....................

Considering Spain was not involved in any wars under Franco, what war crimes should he have been charges with?

Simplifications are often a cover for simple lies.

Spain contributed a division The Blue Division that fought alongside the Germans on the Russian Front. Then tere were all of Francos atrocities in the Spanish Civil War.

 

[Ringel05]

both died natural deaths as leaders of their countries.

Both should have been tried and executed for war crimes.

Nobody was about to try Stalin lol - rights of the victors....................

Considering Spain was not involved in any wars under Franco, what war crimes should he have been charges with?

Simplifications are often a cover for simple lies.

Spain contributed a division The Blue Division that fought alongside the Germans on the Russian Front. Then tere were all of Francos atrocities in the Spanish Civil War.

There were atrocities committed on all sides, why single out just Franco? Besides, making what is essentially a reactionary statement without understanding the political, economic and cultural upheaval at the time is rather cretinous, don't you agree?

 

[Artevelde]

both died natural deaths as leaders of their countries.

Both should have been tried and executed for war crimes.

Nobody was about to try Stalin lol - rights of the victors....................

Considering Spain was not involved in any wars under Franco, what war crimes should he have been charges with?

Simplifications are often a cover for simple lies.

Spain contributed a division The Blue Division that fought alongside the Germans on the Russian Front. Then tere were all of Francos atrocities in the Spanish Civil War.

Sweden provided volunteers to fight on the Eastern front too. I guess you want the Swedisch King and government tried for war crimes too?

Franco's troops certainly committed atrocities during the civil war, but this was not an international conflict but a domestic conflict. And at least equally griesome atrocities were committed by the Republican side.

 

[regent]

To continue the policy of unconditional surrender and possible trial of Hirohito might have cost America how many lives?

 

[Political Junky]

both died natural deaths as leaders of their countries.

Both should have been tried and executed for war crimes.

Nobody was about to try Stalin lol - rights of the victors....................

Considering Spain was not involved in any wars under Franco, what war crimes should he have been charges with?

Simplifications are often a cover for simple lies.

Collaboration with Hitler on the bombing of Guernica.

Guernica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And you've heard of the Spanish Civil War, right?

 

[Ernie S.]

Granted Franco is an idiot, but I don't think his posting style could be considered war crimes.

 

[Unkotare]

The same will be said about Bush and Blair.

No, you idiot.

 

[Artevelde]

both died natural deaths as leaders of their countries.

Both should have been tried and executed for war crimes.

Nobody was about to try Stalin lol - rights of the victors....................

Considering Spain was not involved in any wars under Franco, what war crimes should he have been charges with?

Simplifications are often a cover for simple lies.

Collaboration with Hitler on the bombing of Guernica.

Guernica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And you've heard of the Spanish Civil War, right?

You do know that the Spanish Civil War was over before the Second World war began, right? You do know that this was an internal conflict and not an international war?

As for Guernica, that wasn't a war crime unless of course you want to charge Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill with war crimes.

 

[Artevelde]

Franco was actually a fairly smart operator who successfully played off various international powers and deftly kept his country out of the war. Internally he used the fascists, but never espoused anything like a real fascist philosophy. He was rather a very backward looking and reactionary military dictator. But he was smart enough to put his country on the path towards development.

 

[Political Junky]

Considering Spain was not involved in any wars under Franco, what war crimes should he have been charges with?

Simplifications are often a cover for simple lies.

Collaboration with Hitler on the bombing of Guernica.

Guernica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And you've heard of the Spanish Civil War, right?

You do know that the Spanish Civil War was over before the Second World war began, right? You do know that this was an internal conflict and not an international war?

As for Guernica, that wasn't a war crime unless of course you want to charge Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill with war crimes.

Huh?

 

[Ringel05]

Hirohito may have been the emperor but he did not really rule Japan, the Army and the Navy did. As per tradition Hirohito never spoke in public, he was a godhead the military used to control the masses. Some might claim that while he was the ultimate authority in Japan and could have stopped the war before it started he was actually more of a captive in his own palace and a captive of his position as emperor. While most of the palace guards were loyal to him, the outside of the palace was guarded by army units loyal to army commanders and far outnumbered the palace contingent, Hirohito knew the limitations put on him.
This is not to say he didn't initially acquiesce to much of what the military was doing because it strengthened Japan's power in Asia not to mention the fact that information that was flowing up to him was heavily redacted by his advisers, most of which were military or controlled by the military.
You should read The Pacific War, 1931-1945 by Saburo Ienaga. While being somewhat pro-socialist and anti-capitalist it still covers the historical and cultural aspects/events of that period from a Japanese perspective in fairly good detail.

 

[Artevelde]

Collaboration with Hitler on the bombing of Guernica.

Guernica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And you've heard of the Spanish Civil War, right?

You do know that the Spanish Civil War was over before the Second World war began, right? You do know that this was an internal conflict and not an international war?

As for Guernica, that wasn't a war crime unless of course you want to charge Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill with war crimes.

Huh?

Too difficult for you?

 

[Unkotare]

Hirohito may have been the emperor but he did not really rule Japan, the Army and the Navy did. As per tradition Hirohito never spoke in public, he was a godhead the military used to control the masses. Some might claim that while he was the ultimate authority in Japan and could have stopped the war before it started he was actually more of a captive in his own palace and a captive of his position as emperor. While most of the palace guards were loyal to him, the outside of the palace was guarded by army units loyal to army commanders and far outnumbered the palace contingent, Hirohito knew the limitations put on him.
This is not to say he didn't initially acquiesce to much of what the military was doing because it strengthened Japan's power in Asia not to mention the fact information that was flowing up to him was heavily redacted by his advisers, most of which were military or controlled by the military.
You should read The Pacific War, 1931-1945 by Saburo Ienaga. While being somewhat pro-socialist and anti-capitalist it still covers the historical and cultural aspects/events of that period from a Japanese perspective in fairly good detail.

Of course that was the case, to varying degrees, with most Emperors throughout most of Japanese history.

 

[regent]

Hirohito did not rule as most rulers he was a God, but his word was heeded. It was another reason the US kept him intact. Big Mac used Hirohito.

 

[Political Junky]

You do know that the Spanish Civil War was over before the Second World war began, right? You do know that this was an internal conflict and not an international war?

As for Guernica, that wasn't a war crime unless of course you want to charge Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill with war crimes.

Huh?

Too difficult for you?

Your post doesn't make sense.