Hezbollah is the first Muslim Army to defeat Israel

[Sunni Man]

Hezbollah handed Israel a stunning defeat when they invaded Lebanon.

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[(R)IGHTeous 1]

Hezbollah handed Israel a stunning defeat when they invaded Lebanon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8sXZRM523k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj4xKj4v6I4

 

[DiveCon]

if that was a defeat for Israel, then Hezbollah cant take too many more victories like that
LOL

 

[Sunni Man]

Israel can't defeat Hezbollah: Israeli expert

JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israel cannot defeat Hezbollah in a direct engagement and the Lebanese guerrilla group would inflict heavy damage on the Israeli home front if war broke out, a former Israeli national security adviser said Thursday.

Though outnumbered and outgunned, Hezbollah held off Israel's advanced armed forces in a 2006 war and fired more than 4,000 rockets into Israeli territory. The group has a domestic political base and has since bolstered an arsenal that Israel describes as a strategic threat.

Tensions between Israel and Hezbollah's Iranian and Syrian backers have stoked expectations of renewed violence in Lebanon.

"Israel does not know how to beat Hezbollah," said Giora Eiland, an army ex-general who served as national security adviser to former prime ministers Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert.

"Therefore a war waged only as Israel-versus-Hezbollah might yield better damage on Hezbollah, but Hezbollah would inflict far worse damage on the Israeli homefront than it did 4-1/2 years ago," he told Israel Radio.

Israel can't defeat Hezbollah: Israeli expert - Yahoo! News

 

[jillian]

they hate when israel beats their sorry butts...

so they lie and say it never happened.

 

[DiveCon]

they hate when israel beats their sorry butts...

so they lie and say it never happened.

actually, they claim the opposite of the truth

 

[Sunni Man]

How Hezbollah Defeated Israel

Perhaps the most telling sign of Israel's military failure comes in counting the dead and wounded. Israel now claims that it killed about 400-500 Hezbollah fighters, while its own losses were significantly less. But a more precise accounting shows that Israeli and Hezbollah casualties were nearly even. It is impossible for Shi'ites (and Hezbollah) not to allow an honorable burial for its martyrs, so in this case it is simply a matter of counting funerals. Fewer than 180 funerals have been held for Hezbollah fighters--nearly equal to the number killed on the Israeli side. That number may be revised upward: our most recent information from Lebanon says the number of Shi'ite martyr funerals in the south can now be precisely tabulated at 184.

But by any accounting--whether in rockets, armored vehicles or numbers of dead and wounded--Hezbollah's fight against Israel must be accorded a decisive military and political victory. Even if it were otherwise (and it is clearly not), the full impact of Hezbollah's war with Israel over a period of 34 days in July and August has caused a political earthquake in the region.

Hezbollah's military defeat of Israel was decisive, but its political defeat of the United States--which unquestioningly sided with Israel during the conflict and refused to bring it to an end--was catastrophic and has had a lasting impact on US prestige in the region.

Alastair Crooke and Mark Perry: How Hezbollah Defeated Israel, Winning the Ground War

 

[Ropey]

Israel after the Lebanon Hezbollah initiated war.

A win? An Arabian win maybe.

 

[Ropey]

Tell a lie often enough and they believe it. Not us. Them. LOL

They preach to the converted. But we know that they consider that they are still alive to be a win regardless of a one hundred to one ratio in a fight they continue to restart.

Note that those F-16's came from Canada to Israel.

 

[Ropey]

Israel's Economic Indicators

 

[Sunni Man]

Winning the Intelligence War: How Hezbollah Defeated Israel

Olmert and the security cabinet violated the first principle of war - they showed contempt for their enemy. In many respects, Olmert and his cabinet were captives of an unquestioned belief in the efficacy of Israeli deterrence. Like the Israeli public, they viewed any questioning of IDF capabilities as sacrilege.

The Israeli intelligence failure during the conflict was catastrophic. It meant that, after the failure of Israel's air campaign to degrade Hezbollah assets significantly in the first 72 hours of the war, Israel's chance of winning a decisive victory against Hezbollah was increasingly, and highly, unlikely.

"Israel lost the war in the first three days," one US military expert said. "If you have that kind of surprise and you have that kind of firepower, you had better win. Otherwise, you're in for the long haul."

Alastair Crooke and Mark Perry: How Hezbollah Defeated Israel

 

[jillian]

and this thread is exactly the reason that israel should never allow itself to be pressured not to decimate its enemy...

the loons take it as a sign of weakness.

 

[Sunni Man]

What is wrong with presenting the truth about an actual event in a objective manner?

Even top Israeli officials have all but admitted that they lost in Lebanon to Hezbollah.

 

[Ropey]

So, why have they not attacked again if they won?

Nu?

 

[tinydancer]

What I don't understand and this is from the heart is why cannot we make any progress whatsoever?

Let's stop playing then.

Lets forget the charade.

Kill each other and move on. I've really had it with both sides.


Let them go at each other. I put my money on Israel.

Lets have at it. I'm tired of the muslim victim dance.

$10 bucks on Israel.

Let's have at it.

lol

lets give it a go. Cage match.....

 

[tinydancer]

What is wrong with presenting the truth about an actual event in a objective manner?

Even top Israeli officials have all but admitted that they lost in Lebanon to Hezbollah.

lol

sadly most don't know we are to be together forever.

aye carumba I wish they did.

the lord demands this of this.

One day most will learn.

 

[daveman]

and this thread is exactly the reason that israel should never allow itself to be pressured not to decimate its enemy...

the loons take it as a sign of weakness.

Yup. If even one terrorist walks away, they consider it a victory.

 

[Ropey]

I'm tired of the muslim victim dance.

Palestine was administered by Great Britain under the Mandate until forty six when Trans Jordan was granted independence. In one fell swoop, sovereignty in eighty percent of Palestine had been awarded to the Arabians. Israel was created by the United Nations by vote. The British Mandate had already been dissolved. The British Mandate CREATED Jordan with almost eighty percent of the land called Palestine. Why was an "Arabian Dynasty" given almost the entirety of the "Palestinian" land?

Should it all be taken back? They say take back Israel, but say nothing of all the other Arabian countries created by Empires. Not one Arabian country has been created by the Arabians. Simply incoming Empires partitioned and created countries so that the itinerant nomads (Arabians) had some centers to deal with.

On November forty seven the United Nations recommended that both a Jewish State and an Arabian State be created in the remainder of the Mandated territory west of the Jordan River, and that Jerusalem be internationalized. Even though this was dramatically favorable to the Arabian, the Jews accepted the proposal. The Arabians rejected it as they wanted it all.

They still do and once again, we defensively await their attack.

 

[Sunni Man]

They still do and once again, we defensively await their attack.

We?

Hey Shlomo, don't you live in Canada??

 

[jillian]

and this thread is exactly the reason that israel should never allow itself to be pressured not to decimate its enemy...

the loons take it as a sign of weakness.

Yup. If even one terrorist walks away, they consider it a victory.

it's like the whole black knight thing.