Hey,we're conservatives! We're not neo-conservatives!

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    Man,i'm so sick of people confusing the two. No matter how often you try to explain the differences,most ignore and just continue on with their willful ignorance. I suppose some do this intentionally though. It's very obvious that most Neocon Republicans support this latest U.S. Foreign Intervention against Libya. As do most Socialist/Progressive Democrats. But real Conservatives vehemently oppose bombing Libya. I understand the Neocons & Socialists/Progressives run their parties but there are some real Conservatives out there. Aggressive Foreign Interventionism is a Neocon & Socialist/Progressive thing. It's not a Conservative thing. I hope i helped clear things up a bit. I'm a real Conservative. I'm not a Neocon. Thank you for your time. :)
     
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    Odd how the center right neo-cons and the far left seem to agree with going to war, even w/o a declaration.

    And liberals and conservatives are all against this bs. And yet according to polls 3/4th's of us are against it.

    If the nuts in both parties run things, how come they are so few?

    Is it "Squecky wheel" syndrome?
     
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    Go with the label Classical Liberal.

    (I did and do. It invites a ton of attacks from the ignorant on the right, but then, so did my involvement in Ron Paul's campaign in 2008.)
     
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    I have some respect for Classic Liberals. They still care about individual Freedom & Liberty. Obviously,the Socialists/Progressives do not. Unfortunately they do run the Democratic Party now. Just like the Neocons run the Republican Party. I was hoping things would change in the Party after the recent Elections but now i'm becoming pessimistic. Where are all the real Conservatives standing up and opposing these bombings? I haven't seen too many so far. It's very sad.
     
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    I just don't get it, gas prices are soaring through the roof and we have oil right here in our country but we don't drill it, unemployment is sky rocketing and we are closing down fucking schools for Christs sake, and here we are bombing Libya to go after lucrative oil contracts that won't benefit the average American anyways even if we do get them?
     
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    Well, I never considered myself Democrat, I usually voted Republican (but not exclusively so), if not independent/Libertarian.

    I just feel the conservative brand has lost a lot of cache. In particular since Bush basically assumed the label in the 2000 season and fronted himself as small government and turned around and did all he could to promote big government (basically setting the stage for Obama's excesses as well).

    Neither party is going to be our path of redemption, until the US can no longer persaude people to lend them money. By that point, we're all going to be swallowing a pound of cure, like it or not.
     
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    The truth is that oil is still cheaper at the other sources. There are a few moratoriums that will have to be overturned, but things like ANWR are overstated. I read a while back, if ANWR had to supply us with all our oil needs, it would last like 95 days.

    Here are proven oil reserves by nation:
    File:Oil Reserves.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    We invaded Iraq and instead of oil prices going down they went up, how do we know the same won't happen with Libya?
     
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    Its not your label that matters its your failed ideas.
     
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    They probably will, but speculators will use anything to up the price. The energy market has been deregulated since 2000.

    (I'm against action in Libya anyway.)
     
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