Breaking News Hey Libs, this is how it’s done.

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    Watch the movie 13 Hours sometime.

    If anyone said fuck it let them die it was the CIA station chief who refused to let the ambassador's security detail go rescue him until over 2 hours had passed since the attack began.

    Then, there was the fact that there were no assets around Benghazi other than one surveillance drone (with no weapons). And, they tried to mount a rescue from Sigonella, but didn't have the required equipment, so they tried to mount a rescue from Aviano Italy, but by the time they got things together, it was too late.

    Nikki Haley had her security detail with her and readily available to defend her, as well as had access to aircraft to get out of the area.
     
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    Umm...have you ever learned the meaning of word "context?" I have to ask because the following appears to have escaped you:
    • Nikki Haley is not the "in country" ambassador whose job it is to be there.
    • The place from which Ms. Haley was evacuated is a U.N. camp, not a U.S. embassy.
    There's no reason to challenge her security team removing her from the area for, in all likelihood, that camp has nowhere near the defensive capabilities of a U.S. embassy. (One'll here find photos of the UNHCR camps in South Sudan. They're called "camps," in part, because the "buildings" there are various kinds of tent.) Moreover, even if it does, risking her be confined to that camp is hardly a good idea for whereas a U.S. embassy in a given nation is a U.S. ambassador to that country's principal place of work, that camp is not at all that for Ms. Haley.

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    Point being, is that we got our people out. Clinton didn't. Fail.
     
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    Trying to equate the two as being equal is dishonest at best. She had her security detail with her, the ambassador's wasn't allowed to go rescue him because of the CIA station chief, until over 2 hours after the attack began.

    If Haley had stuck around for two hours without any security, you might be able to make a comparison.
     
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    You just keep pushing your spin, because no one cares. The Trump admin got his diplomat OUT and your failure you worship let 4 people be murdered. You keep lying, but mark my words, all this shit is coming undone.
     
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    Simple. If you are a simpleton... She got back on her helicopter when unarmed protesters approached.zzzzzzzzz
     
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    So Trump got her out with time to spare. Thanks.
     
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    i saw the movie ...

    In 13 hours, I can get an aircraft full of special forces halfway around the world, deployed, AND fed. Flight time from Charlotte, NC to Benghazi is 10 hours 50 minutes. Flight time from Landstuhl, Germany to Benghazi is 4 hours 10 minutes.

    13 hours !!!!

    In 13 hours, I can launch B-2s from Missouri, fly a mission over Benghazi, return, refuel and re-arm, and fly a second one, and STILL have time for dinner.

    As for the supposed rescue missions --- pure, political bullshit.

    Tell me --- just exactly what equipment did they NOT have in order to fly a platoon of soldiers into Benghazi? What equipment did they NOT have to drop a troop of parachutists from Germany? What equipment did they NOT have to call Tel Aviv and request assistance? What equipment did they NOT have to call Amman and request assistance?

    Ask yourself the question this way ..... 4 people were able to hold off the enemy for 13 hours!!! What would have happened if there had been 20 more? 30 more? 100 more?

    The cold, hard truth is that the administration intentionally and willfully left those people to die for political and diplomatic reasons. I wonder - is that what Hillary told the families on the tarmac at Dover? Oh wait --- she didn't tell them the truth, did she?
     
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    Guess you let the title of the movie get in your way. Yes, the name of the movie was 13 Hours, but the actual time of the Benghazi attack was only 4.

    And no, according to the movie, they actually tried to mount a rescue mission, but there were no assets in the area, and in the confusion of trying to get a rescue mounted, they ran out of time.

    Yeah, I'm a retired member of the Navy, and there are a lot of things that can happen in 13 hours. But there are a hell of a lot less when you only have 4 (the actual time of the attack), as well as have zero assets in the area.

    But you have to agree if you saw the movie, one of the main screw ups was the CIA station chief not allowing his security detail to go after him until it was too late.
     
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    No question the CIA station chief screwed up ---- but you can't seriously believe he made that decision without first consulting with his superiors .... who just happen to work for the people who made the political decisions.
     
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