Here’s the answer.

Returning more monies to the people and the states is idiotic?

1. Your idea to have the federal government collect zero from corporations while paying workers $13.50 an hour out of taxpayer funds is idiotic.

I contend that all three are more than 14 times higher today than in 1970

2. Show me.

Never has it been done this way.

3. Every Communist says the same thing, "Communism works, they didn't do it the right way. Just watch me."

Tax free? Really? One would be a fool if they didn't.

4. Seeing your massive power grab over the economy, they'd be a fool to move one dollar closer to your grasping hands.

I stated 'off-shore' which are tax haven/dodges.

5. You've stated many ridiculous things. Is GM Ireland or Apple Ireland a tax dodge?

1. The zero collection is for small business that employ 200 or less. The big guys will pay taxes, but less than they pay today.

2. It's been posted many times. Look it up.

3. Non-answer.

4. If the monies are tax free who's going to be 'grasping'? Besides, tax havens are getting harder and harder to find.

5. GM's near tax free status was the result of BushCo Treasury Department rulings.

Tax Free: GM Hasn't Paid Federal U.S. Income Tax Since Bankruptcy

Apple

Apple?s Tax Dodge Should Prompt Rethink in Ireland - Bloomberg View
 
Returning more monies to the people and the states is idiotic?

1. Your idea to have the federal government collect zero from corporations while paying workers $13.50 an hour out of taxpayer funds is idiotic.

I contend that all three are more than 14 times higher today than in 1970

2. Show me.

Never has it been done this way.

3. Every Communist says the same thing, "Communism works, they didn't do it the right way. Just watch me."

Tax free? Really? One would be a fool if they didn't.

4. Seeing your massive power grab over the economy, they'd be a fool to move one dollar closer to your grasping hands.

I stated 'off-shore' which are tax haven/dodges.

5. You've stated many ridiculous things. Is GM Ireland or Apple Ireland a tax dodge?

1. The zero collection is for small business that employ 200 or less. The big guys will pay taxes, but less than they pay today.

2. It's been posted many times. Look it up.

3. Non-answer.

4. If the monies are tax free who's going to be 'grasping'? Besides, tax havens are getting harder and harder to find.

5. GM's near tax free status was the result of BushCo Treasury Department rulings.

Tax Free: GM Hasn't Paid Federal U.S. Income Tax Since Bankruptcy

Apple

Apple?s Tax Dodge Should Prompt Rethink in Ireland - Bloomberg View

1. The zero collection is for small business that employ 200 or less.

The majority of US workers are employed at firms with fewer than 200 employees.

2. It's been posted many times. Look it up.

I looked for your fake number. It wasn't there. Try again.

3. Non-answer.

That gets to the heart of your silliness.

4. If the monies are tax free who's going to be 'grasping'?

Your incredibly expensive $13.50/hour handout to employees will trump your "tax free" claim.

Besides, tax havens are getting harder and harder to find.

Earnings retained in another country makes that country a tax haven?

5. GM's near tax free status was the result of BushCo Treasury Department rulings.

GM earnings in Europe were treated differently before or after Bush? Prove it.
 
Returning more monies to the people and the states is idiotic?

1. Your idea to have the federal government collect zero from corporations while paying workers $13.50 an hour out of taxpayer funds is idiotic.

I contend that all three are more than 14 times higher today than in 1970

2. Show me.

Never has it been done this way.

3. Every Communist says the same thing, "Communism works, they didn't do it the right way. Just watch me."

Tax free? Really? One would be a fool if they didn't.

4. Seeing your massive power grab over the economy, they'd be a fool to move one dollar closer to your grasping hands.

I stated 'off-shore' which are tax haven/dodges.

5. You've stated many ridiculous things. Is GM Ireland or Apple Ireland a tax dodge?

1. The zero collection is for small business that employ 200 or less. The big guys will pay taxes, but less than they pay today.

2. It's been posted many times. Look it up.

3. Non-answer.

4. If the monies are tax free who's going to be 'grasping'? Besides, tax havens are getting harder and harder to find.

5. GM's near tax free status was the result of BushCo Treasury Department rulings.

Tax Free: GM Hasn't Paid Federal U.S. Income Tax Since Bankruptcy

Apple

Apple?s Tax Dodge Should Prompt Rethink in Ireland - Bloomberg View

1. The zero collection is for small business that employ 200 or less.

The majority of US workers are employed at firms with fewer than 200 employees.

2. It's been posted many times. Look it up.

I looked for your fake number. It wasn't there. Try again.

3. Non-answer.

That gets to the heart of your silliness.

4. If the monies are tax free who's going to be 'grasping'?

Your incredibly expensive $13.50/hour handout to employees will trump your "tax free" claim.

Besides, tax havens are getting harder and harder to find.

Earnings retained in another country makes that country a tax haven?

5. GM's near tax free status was the result of BushCo Treasury Department rulings.

GM earnings in Europe were treated differently before or after Bush? Prove it.

Everything you've asked I've answered. You seem to be aphasic to that.

Not even close.

GM had off-shore monies in Europe?
 
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1. The zero collection is for small business that employ 200 or less. The big guys will pay taxes, but less than they pay today.

2. It's been posted many times. Look it up.

3. Non-answer.

4. If the monies are tax free who's going to be 'grasping'? Besides, tax havens are getting harder and harder to find.

5. GM's near tax free status was the result of BushCo Treasury Department rulings.

Tax Free: GM Hasn't Paid Federal U.S. Income Tax Since Bankruptcy

Apple

Apple?s Tax Dodge Should Prompt Rethink in Ireland - Bloomberg View

1. The zero collection is for small business that employ 200 or less.

The majority of US workers are employed at firms with fewer than 200 employees.

2. It's been posted many times. Look it up.

I looked for your fake number. It wasn't there. Try again.

3. Non-answer.

That gets to the heart of your silliness.

4. If the monies are tax free who's going to be 'grasping'?

Your incredibly expensive $13.50/hour handout to employees will trump your "tax free" claim.

Besides, tax havens are getting harder and harder to find.

Earnings retained in another country makes that country a tax haven?

5. GM's near tax free status was the result of BushCo Treasury Department rulings.

GM earnings in Europe were treated differently before or after Bush? Prove it.

Everything you've asked I've answered. You seem to be aphasic to that.

I can't find proof that prices rose by 14 times.

Seems you can't either.
 
-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

You said that before, and it didn't make sense then either.

The minimum wage in 1970, adjusted to inflation to 2013, is not $23. At most it would be $9.50.

Further, if allow a $1 to $1 deduction for employee expenses, then you would end up with zero tax on business. Instead, just eliminate business tax. Why make things stupid complicated, for no purpose?

Of course the Federal Government has no right, or authority to dictate to States, or Cities, that they must allow a tax break for employee expenses. So your plan is automatically DOA. As long as we still have a Constitution, your plan simply can't happen, without a Dictatorship.

You have no business telling me, how much my private retirement pays out. So scratch that.

As far as adjusting Socialist Security to 1970 pay scale, that sounds wonderful. Understand you'll be cutting millions of people's retirement, and health care under Medicare and Medicaid will be virtually eliminated. I'm all for it. Let people handle their own health care, and their own retirement. Sounds great to me.

Hundreds, if not thousands of companies that survived the downturn, will be wiped out by eliminating off-shore investment. I told you that before, and you didn't get it. Many many companies, were able to keep afloat from foriegn investment income. Income that wouldn't be there if you eliminated foreign investment. You will end up wiping out thousands of jobs.

You can NOT back down prices to 2009 levels, without having massive shortages. Not going to happen.

I'll give a simple example. Take beef. The average cost per pound of beef in 2009, was under $2.50. Today it's over $3.50

If you back down prices to $2.50, you are going to end up with supply shortages. Why?

The same reason that if you put your car on Craiglist, and someone offers you $2,000, and another offers you $3,500, you'll sell to the guy offering the higher price.

Beef, like nearly all commodities, is a global commodity. The world price for Beef is up near $3.50, which is why it's $3.50 here. If you put in price controls, who are the Beef companies going to sell to? Mexico, Canada? We already sell meat exports to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Brazil, and many others.

So you are the dude with the cattle. You can sell in the US for $2.50, or internationally for $3.50+. Who you going to sell to? Obviously out of the US. But then we'll have shortages... oh well.

All those stores, and restaurants, and butchers, and drivers transporting meat products,... all unemployed... all closed down. Millions of people jobless.

This would repeat itself for everything from metal, to paper, to sand. The entire country would have a massive economic crash. This is what is happening right now in Venezuela. Every product with price controls, is disappearing from the country, which is why Venezuela which formerly led Latin America economically, is not the worst performing economy.

And as I said before, driving up wages will kill jobs, and kill business. No amount of deduction will solve that.

Socialism doesn't work. Government control, doesn't work. Your plan, won't work.
 

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