Here's an interesting study..

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    They took great pains to use data from uncorrupted Stations. An interesting read.



    Abstract
    Temperature data 1900–2010 from meteorological stations across the world have been analyzed and it has been found that all land areas generally have two different valid temperature trends. Coastal stations and hill stations facing ocean winds are normally more warm-trended than the valley stations that are sheltered from dominant oceans winds.

    Thus, we found that in any area with variation in the topography, we can divide the stations into the more warm trended ocean air-affected stations, and the more cold-trended ocean air-sheltered stations. We find that the distinction between ocean air-affected and ocean air-sheltered stations can be used to identify the influence of the oceans on land surface. We can then use this knowledge as a tool to better study climate variability on the land surface without the moderating effects of the ocean.

    We find a lack of warming in the ocean air sheltered temperature data – with less impact of ocean temperature trends – after 1950. The lack of warming in the ocean air sheltered temperature trends after 1950 should be considered when evaluating the climatic effects of changes in the Earth’s atmospheric trace amounts of greenhouse gasses as well as variations in solar conditions.


    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0958305X18756670
     
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    What I really want to know is the list of weather stations in 1900..it is real hard to find and figure out.
     
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    Oceans cover 70% of the world.
     
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    Other than stating the obvious, what was your point?
     
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    Yes they do.
     
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    And we are made up of over 80% water.

    A carbon life form..so what does this have to do with the OP?
     
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    It is obvious you didn't read the link, since Oceanic influence are discussed in some detail.
     
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    since when does that matter. oceans are still 70% he said so. ain't he smart. I bet he used the internet thingy.
     
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    It was my understanding that it was ocean temperatures that were being measured.

    And also that receding glaciers were also being noted.
     
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    Interesting distinction...

    Atmosphere containing water vapor is warmer than drier atmosphere that is down welling. Now why would that be?
    /sarc

    This paper clearly gives the water cycle control of the system. This will not bode well with alarmists.. It clearly shows empirical evidence of convection and conduction energy losses..

    " The lack of warming in the ocean air sheltered temperature trends after 1950 should be considered when evaluating the climatic effects of changes in the Earth’s atmospheric trace amounts of greenhouse gasses as well as variations in solar conditions."

    {bolding mine}

    "lack of warming in sheltered regions" indicates CO2 is not retaining heat, only water vapor is.... That one's gonna hurt!
     

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