Here it comes.......bailouts for the States!

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    It'll only end when you end it.
    It's time for murkins to use the guns they hold so dearly.
     
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    Thats how the liberals will crutch the welfare states of Illinois, California, NY, etc.

    SOME states will be more conservative, try to balance their budgets, and be responsible. Others will allow sanctuary cities and spend massive amounts on social programs, and go bankrupt. The well off states will bail out the far left states.

    Makes me wonder......why bother being independent anymore? Why not just move to a far left state and live off the government????????
     
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    Regardless of the impllications, it looks like schools will get a much needed shot in the arm that the states can't give them. Little if any press is given to the effect on kids by the massive shortfalls in state payments to grade schools and high schools. Screw the universities.
     
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    Giving taxpayer money back to the tax payers is a bad thing?

    :cuckoo:
     
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    Wonder how many states would dare take money from these people. You'd need to have your head examined if you did. Guaranteed they'll end up firing you and replacing with one of their's or threatening you with pulling the rug from beneath you at the worst possible time.
     
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    Whew!!!

    You're talking long-term investments (i.e. education) there, and.....how can Wall Street & the 1%ers POSSIBLY realize any short-term profits on THAT kind o' move??!!!! :eek:

    It's no WONDER "conservatives" are railing-against such blasphemy!!!!
     
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    So what the ROI on all those Illegals? We get "cheap lettuce" and they give us bankrupt states.
     
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    Ah! but who to shoot, Doug? There's the rub.

    Revolutions, you see, take advanced planning and organization.

    OTOH, if people just start shooting those to whom they object (basically their neighbors), that's not a revolution that's going to lead to a new (presumably better) government.

    That's not even going to lead to a Civil War that might lead to a government (as in the CSA) either.

    That's just plain old anarchy.

    So if you want a revolution leading to a better government, then you need to plan it out.

    And while you're recruiting and planning and amassing the material needed for this revolution, what do you suppose the government is doing?

    Do you think they're not paying attention to any organization large enough and organized enough to plan a revolution? (hey sport, there's nearly a million citizens with TOP SECRET clearance in this nation...that's a lot of eyes and ears)

    A successful revolution requires the majority of the people being willing to suffer the consequences of having a revolution.

    Now does that sound like the American people?

    Hell! ~ most of us are highly inconvenienced if our cable TV is off for a day.

    So I think more likely scenario leading to another government is that this government collapses first, leading to a time of anarchy.

    In that case, people would probably form together into local defence units to fend off the cretins who would climb out from under the rocks in a time of anarchy

    And it is from those local organizations coming together with other local organizations to form some regional kinds of governments.

    Seems to me that basically what we'd end up with is exactly what so many of you claim you hate.

    We'd end up with government forged by militias.

    I don't know about you, but in my opinion local martial founded governments don't sound superior to what we have now.

    If you want a better government in this nation, the quickest way to it is to rally around a political movement (like the tea Party as an example) and take over the government legally.

    And no, I do not think that that's really possible, either.

    Every political movement seems destined to end up controlled by the people with the money to infiltrate and eventually lead that organization.

    The American people are not ideologically cohesive enough to rally without a cause without some master's money to help them pay for the rally.

    Hence ,the masters will continue to be the masters (of every citizens movement, just as they so obviously already are) unless some outside force topples their regime.

    And I see no outside force capable of taking on this developing one world government that's rallying around CAPITAL.

    So most likely (but I think highly unlikely) scenario for significant change is, I suspect, a mulitary based coup d' etat.

    The military has the organization and the power to do that.

    But I doubt the military would be into toppling this government, too.

    After all, this government takes very good care of its military.

    So the officer corps aren't likely to want to risk their pensions, now, are they?

    See?

    Revolution?

    Not gonna happen anytime soon here in America.

    Anarchy, maybe.

    Revolution or civil war?

    Well maybe if this government collapses under its own weight, but not before that happens.
     
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    i.e. the same people who (thankfully) see two Wars as nothing-more than background-noise.....'cause there's no DRAFT!!!
     

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