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are you on the medical marihuana ???
Considering that I served 20 years in the US Military, yeah.......I think I'm qualified to figure out what is and isn't torture.
How much did you serve? Have you been waterboarded? If so, did it feel like torture?
And........FWIW..........yes, for SF types, they DO go through waterboarding training, but that is because they deploy to countries that don't recognize the Geneva Conventions, and they need to be prepared mentally if something goes wrong and they're captured in those nations, as they WILL use that technique.
But seeing as torture is defined as something that has long lasting physical and or psychological affects....how can you say waterboarding is torture if we do it to our SF's?
I mean.....do they string up our SF's to electircal chords and shock them to a point just before being lethal to prepare them just in case they are captured?
Torture does not yield reliable information. That's why it's not admissible in court. Because information obtained through torture is not reliable.
Considering that I served 20 years in the US Military, yeah.......I think I'm qualified to figure out what is and isn't torture.
How much did you serve? Have you been waterboarded? If so, did it feel like torture?
And........FWIW..........yes, for SF types, they DO go through waterboarding training, but that is because they deploy to countries that don't recognize the Geneva Conventions, and they need to be prepared mentally if something goes wrong and they're captured in those nations, as they WILL use that technique.
But seeing as torture is defined as something that has long lasting physical and or psychological affects....how can you say waterboarding is torture if we do it to our SF's?
I mean.....do they string up our SF's to electircal chords and shock them to a point just before being lethal to prepare them just in case they are captured?
They don't get waterboarded every day for a month straight. It's usually (from what I've heard from friends who were SF), a one time deal so that they are aware of what it is like.
No, they don't do it repeatedly to them.
However, waterboarding someone 4 times/day for 35 days straight would leave some kind of mental effects.
But seeing as torture is defined as something that has long lasting physical and or psychological affects....how can you say waterboarding is torture if we do it to our SF's?
I mean.....do they string up our SF's to electircal chords and shock them to a point just before being lethal to prepare them just in case they are captured?
They don't get waterboarded every day for a month straight. It's usually (from what I've heard from friends who were SF), a one time deal so that they are aware of what it is like.
No, they don't do it repeatedly to them.
However, waterboarding someone 4 times/day for 35 days straight would leave some kind of mental effects.
but the act of waterboarding does not fall into the category of torture....for if it did, we would not be able to do it to our special forces.
You know....poking ones finger into the arm of someone is nothing.
Doing it over and over and over again can be deemed as harrassment...and COULD result in an injury.
Not sure how that fits in.....but I am trying to make it work.
Have a great evening.
Obama recently in Asia said that water boarding is still considered torture. So, if we captured the scum OBL we would not have used this methodology? So we shot/killed him to take this Obama policy issue off the table? I'm struggling to understand this inconsistency in message!?
Whether we should torture people is one issue (the answer is no, we should not).
Whether Navy Seals should attempt to capture OBL alive - at potentially greater risk to their own lives - is a different issue. Personally, my opinion is that they shouldn't. It's not worth it.
Killing is sometimes justified. Torture never is.
How pathetic. You didn't answer my question.
Whether we should torture people is one issue (the answer is no, we should not).
Whether Navy Seals should attempt to capture OBL alive - at potentially greater risk to their own lives - is a different issue. Personally, my opinion is that they shouldn't. It's not worth it.
Killing is sometimes justified. Torture never is.
How pathetic. You didn't answer my question.
You questions are semantically unintelligible (not to mention grammatically incorrect). If you think I didn't answer them, try rephrasing them in a way that makes it clear what you're trying to ask.
Obama recently in Asia said that water boarding is still considered torture. So, if we captured the scum OBL we would not have used this methodology? So we shot/killed him to take this Obama policy issue off the table? I'm struggling to understand this inconsistency in message!?
You guys still can't stand osama was killed under Obama's watch, can you?
Whether we should torture people is one issue (the answer is no, we should not).
Whether Navy Seals should attempt to capture OBL alive - at potentially greater risk to their own lives - is a different issue. Personally, my opinion is that they shouldn't. It's not worth it.
Killing is sometimes justified. Torture never is.
How pathetic. You didn't answer my question.
You questions are semantically unintelligible (not to mention grammatically incorrect). If you think I didn't answer them, try rephrasing them in a way that makes it clear what you're trying to ask.
Obama recently in Asia said that water boarding is still considered torture. So, if we captured the scum OBL we would not have used this methodology? So we shot/killed him to take this Obama policy issue off the table? I'm struggling to understand this inconsistency in message!?
killing someone puts them out of their misery.
Waterboarding them scares the heck out of them.
Hope that clears things up.
No not quite. Water boarding can yield useful information. I wonder how the Obama policy would've played out if he was captured.
Waterboarding IS torture.
Waterboarding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wanna know why Cheney and Jr. said it was "effective"? They were getting people to confess that Saddam was a major player in 9/11, when it is now known that he wasn't.
Incidentally, Pol Pot used the same interrogation technique to get signed FALSE confessions.
are you on the medical marihuana ???
Considering that I served 20 years in the US Military, yeah.......I think I'm qualified to figure out what is and isn't torture.
How much did you serve? Have you been waterboarded? If so, did it feel like torture?
And........FWIW..........yes, for SF types, they DO go through waterboarding training, but that is because they deploy to countries that don't recognize the Geneva Conventions, and they need to be prepared mentally if something goes wrong and they're captured in those nations, as they WILL use that technique.
Torture does not yield reliable information. That's why it's not admissible in court. Because information obtained through torture is not reliable.
Enhanced interrogation is not torture and information derived from interogations can and is admissable in a court of law.
Torture is subjective, do you consider having someone stripped naked, placed in a cell with temperatures in the 50's and doused with water ever so often torture? How about making someone stand for long periods of time depriving them of sleep and food, is that torture?
What about any of these methods that our military uses:
1.Yelling
2.Loud music, and light control
3.Environmental manipulation
4.Sleep deprivation/adjustment
5.Stress positions
6.20-hour interrogations
7.Controlled fear (muzzled dogs)
Is any one of these torture?
