I’m going by the blacks I debate with here. Im2 and that other guy mainly so please tell them if most blacks disagree with themI thought this needed repeating:
It really blows my mind that a black single father here on USMB has the balls to blame white racism for the current situation of all the black kids living in poor communities and he REFUSES to acknowledge that black people are doing it to themselves. When you are poor and black and you have a baby, you fucked yourself. Racist America didn't fuck you, you fucked yourself with that big black dick of yours. LOL
Hyperbole is a fallacy. The use of fallacy in an argument is a sign that the speaker or writer realizes their argument is weak, for if the argument was believed to be strong, without the use of hyperbole, there would be no need for hyperbole.
Black people do not blame "All" of black peoples problems on racism or in particular, no one has attributed the phenomenon of poor black children "All" on racism. Point out where that was done? If you are intelligent....if you are honest.....if you have a solid argument.....why make slit up?
All black problems are not the result of racism. As a general rule, however, the degree that a socioeconomic statistic, like rate of poverty, wealth, unemployment, etc, differs between blacks and whites......is likely the accrued impact of this nations racism against blacks.
All actions create REACTIONS. Some whites are hell bent on coming up with theories on the black condition devoid of this natural law. In other words, in their theory and reasoning......the reaction and consequences of centuries of white racism is NEVER part of the logic.....as if racism existed only as a thought....but never an action that produced negative consequences as a reaction.
Lets take out the hyperbole
Black single fathers blame white racism for the current situation of poor blacks more than they do themselves for not raising their own kids. The evidence I'm right is in prison. Most prisoners didn't have dads when they grew up.
When you are poor and you have a baby you fucked yourself and your kid. White America didn't fuck you. You fucked you.
I appreciate your efforts to clarify your argument. It has not gone unnoticed. That said, you left one fallacy behind and brought a different one.Namely, where is the study/polling on the opinions of black single fathers? If I were to make a claim about racial racial attitudes, I have document history and countless studies that I can link to to support my premise/claim. Thus, the fallacy is that you have supporting evidence on the thoughts of single black fathers in regards to whom they blame for their kid not having a father in the home. The fact that most prisoners did not have fathers when they grew up is not in anyway evidence supporting who these single black men blame.
First you said that blacks or single black fathers blame "ALL" of this on white racism. You correctly stepped back from that. Now you are making a claim that black single fathers "more often than not" blame white racism. Where is the supporting evidence of the thoughts of single black fathers on the subject matter? Without that.....you are not making an intellectually grounded argument. Now....as a married father of children, I will make the claim that the primary reason for the different rates of out of wedlock births between blacks and whites is rooted in the history of racism. However, I cannot tell you what percentage of other black married fathers believe that....because I am not aware of any studies and I have not met the majority of married black fathers to ask them.
Two smart guys and I agree with about 90% of what they have to say.
I simply tell them that it may not be racism that’s keeping poor blacks down because the same shit happens to white people too.
I tell them those poor blacks have to follow the same advice us middle class people had to follow. If you get pregnant before you get a career you might be poor forever.
And you have to take school seriously learn to speak and interview and you aren’t going to get every job you interview for.
Wait, now you’re focusing on who black men blame? Who do they blame? On usmb they blame racism. They say the ignorant stuff going on in the black community is not the problem. I’ll drag you in to discuss with us
The problem with what you say sealy is that racism is the root cause of the problem. That's where the problem starts. .I showed you POLICIES that enacted in your own city over the past 50 years done primarily by whites that have had negative impacts upon back communities and you stick with this silly assertion based upon white racial stereotypes then can't see why we say racism is the problem. You at completely wrong about the black community. You don't live there. Your interactions have been few and you base what .you say in maybe 10 percent of the blacks that live in Detroit. More blacks are entering college today than ever before, This kills your premise of blacks not taking school seriously. So this is why you need to stop trying to tell actual black people what we need to do from your perspective. We see the problems and have a complete understanding of the impact pf racism. You were shown hat he reason unwed mothers increased was because married women decided to have fewer children but you are convinced that your stupid ass stereotyped bullshit is true even after being shown a situation that was studied and put into a published article by Ta Nehisi Coates. Since you so strongly believe your stereotype is fact you walk up to a married black female and tell her she should have more children. And when you do hat, may God have mercy on your soul..
So why can't you just go work in the white community and try addressing the major problems you whites there choose to ignore in order to lecture us. Doesn't the opioid disaster in your community say anything to you whites about the problems that exist in the white community?
I don't think you understand what AKIP said. He was particularly eloquent in his explanation to you ad now you are lost because you don't understand.. AKIP stated how things are rooted a history of racism which is exactly what we are saying. The root cause of the problems blacks face in America is white racism. Like AKIP said, you seem to think racism is a thought and not an action that produced negative consequences.
Alright you got me. I agree. Damn it! LOL.