Hedonism and Free Sexuality is of the devil

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Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

The devil is a cool guy then?

Why do you think religions give a damn about people having sex?
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

The devil is a cool guy then?

Why do you think religions give a damn about people having sex?

God created sex for procreation. There is nothing cool about faggots, perverts and whores etc.
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

The devil is a cool guy then?

Why do you think religions give a damn about people having sex?

God created sex for procreation. There is nothing cool about faggots, perverts and whores etc.

Your god exists only in your mind
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

The devil is a cool guy then?

Why do you think religions give a damn about people having sex?

God created sex for procreation. There is nothing cool about faggots, perverts and whores etc.


Says you ...

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Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

The devil is a cool guy then?

Why do you think religions give a damn about people having sex?

God created sex for procreation. There is nothing cool about faggots, perverts and whores etc.

Did he now?

If he created it for procreation, why do gay people exist then?

If EVERYTHING is created by God, then gay people were created by God.
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

The devil is a cool guy then?

Why do you think religions give a damn about people having sex?

God created sex for procreation. There is nothing cool about faggots, perverts and whores etc.

Did he now?

If he created it for procreation, why do gay people exist then?

If EVERYTHING is created by God, then gay people were created by God.

I dont believe that gay people are created inherently like that. I think they are perverts and live like that just. I dont think god turned them to do this just I dont believe god turns someone to practice BDSM.

In many societies homosexuality was widespread but disappeared after christianity. So its not like something god created. Now its widespread again

Nearly half of young people don't think they are exclusively heterosexual
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

You're trying to make an important point, one that's even vital for posterity of America's future. And while I am an actively practicing Christian, quoting scripture these days is a sure fire way to instantly make today's youth deaf to any message that follows. That being said, I agree with your message and its historical references.

Without doubt we live today in a world gone mad. A world turned inside out and upside down where media in all forms is convincing us that evil is good and good is evil. It's a message no one wants to hear and most everyone is automatically deaf to. Why would today's youth listen to moral reasoning--religious or otherwise--when everyone they know and everyone around the world beaming into their brains from the internet reassures them daily that anything goes--any behavior no matter how deviant or harmful to self--is justifiable and just plain okay.? Call something taboo and everyone wants to do it.

There's got to be a sea change in the way parents raise their kids in our information age. It's got to begin in popular culture but chances of that are zero in the face of revenues to be made off kids' minds by Hollywood and the video game industry. We need world leaders who cannot be intimidated away by powerful corporate interest groups and lobbyist dollars.

You're right though, history has shown again and again what becomes of societies after their moral values have been upended and redefined. The movement in America today to normalize the perverted will bring her to ruin if some kind of restraints are not put into place. Are we seeing the end of our great country on the near horizon?
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

You're trying to make an important point, one that's even vital for posterity of America's future. And while I am an actively practicing Christian, quoting scripture these days is a sure fire way to instantly make today's youth deaf to any message that follows. That being said, I agree with your message and its historical references.

Without doubt we live today in a world gone mad. A world turned inside out and upside down where media in all forms is convincing us that evil is good and good is evil. It's a message no one wants to hear and most everyone is automatically deaf to. Why would today's youth listen to moral reasoning--religious or otherwise--when everyone they know and everyone around the world beaming into their brains from the internet reassures them daily that anything goes--any behavior no matter how deviant or harmful to self--is justifiable and just plain okay.? Call something taboo and everyone wants to do it.

There's got to be a sea change in the way parents raise their kids in our information age. It's got to begin in popular culture but chances of that are zero in the face of revenues to be made off kids' minds by Hollywood and the video game industry. We need world leaders who cannot be intimidated away by powerful corporate interest groups and lobbyist dollars.

You're right though, history has shown again and again what becomes of societies after their moral values have been upended and redefined. The movement in America today to normalize the perverted will bring her to ruin if some kind of restraints are not put into place. Are we seeing the end of our great country on the near horizon?

Thanks.
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

The devil is a cool guy then?

Why do you think religions give a damn about people having sex?

God created sex for procreation. There is nothing cool about faggots, perverts and whores etc.

Did he now?

If he created it for procreation, why do gay people exist then?

If EVERYTHING is created by God, then gay people were created by God.

I dont believe that gay people are created inherently like that. I think they are perverts and live like that just. I dont think god turned them to do this just I dont believe god turns someone to practice BDSM.

In many societies homosexuality was widespread but disappeared after christianity. So its not like something god created. Now its widespread again

Nearly half of young people don't think they are exclusively heterosexual

Does it matter if they were created inherently like that?

Humans weren't created to drive cars. Does that mean driving a car is perversion?

Babies can be born male or female. It all depends on chromosomes. Some babies are born hermaphrodites. Do you think hermaphrodites are CHOOSING to live their life in the way? Like they had a choice to have a penis and vagina so they chose both?

Babies are also born with different characteristics. They will grow up to like some things and hate other things based on how they are. It's why two left wing parents will probably produce a left wing baby.

It's not a choice. Yes, you could choose to repress those thoughts. But that's a choice of repression, not the choice of who you are.

Also, you "believe" that gay is a choice. Believing is that you just made it up.

Also, why the hell do you care? Is it any of your business what they do?

Do you meet your parents and the first thought in your head is "they fucked together"?

No, probably not. So when you see a gay person, why is your first thought "they fucked someone of the same sex"? Makes no sense.

Homosexuality didn't disappear after Christianity came along.

Also, your argument is that God didn't create homosexuality because it existed before Christianity.

Jesus existed before Christianity. Are you saying the God didn't create anything before the existence of Christianity? That the world, that all the people born before it, all the animals, weren't created by God?
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

You're trying to make an important point, one that's even vital for posterity of America's future. And while I am an actively practicing Christian, quoting scripture these days is a sure fire way to instantly make today's youth deaf to any message that follows. That being said, I agree with your message and its historical references.

Without doubt we live today in a world gone mad. A world turned inside out and upside down where media in all forms is convincing us that evil is good and good is evil. It's a message no one wants to hear and most everyone is automatically deaf to. Why would today's youth listen to moral reasoning--religious or otherwise--when everyone they know and everyone around the world beaming into their brains from the internet reassures them daily that anything goes--any behavior no matter how deviant or harmful to self--is justifiable and just plain okay.? Call something taboo and everyone wants to do it.

There's got to be a sea change in the way parents raise their kids in our information age. It's got to begin in popular culture but chances of that are zero in the face of revenues to be made off kids' minds by Hollywood and the video game industry. We need world leaders who cannot be intimidated away by powerful corporate interest groups and lobbyist dollars.

You're right though, history has shown again and again what becomes of societies after their moral values have been upended and redefined. The movement in America today to normalize the perverted will bring her to ruin if some kind of restraints are not put into place. Are we seeing the end of our great country on the near horizon?

You think we live in a world where the media is trying to make people thing evil is good and good is evil?

Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps the Christian churches have been doing that for two thousand years?
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

The devil is a cool guy then?

Why do you think religions give a damn about people having sex?

God created sex for procreation. There is nothing cool about faggots, perverts and whores etc.

Did he now?

If he created it for procreation, why do gay people exist then?

If EVERYTHING is created by God, then gay people were created by God.

I dont believe that gay people are created inherently like that. I think they are perverts and live like that just. I dont think god turned them to do this just I dont believe god turns someone to practice BDSM.

In many societies homosexuality was widespread but disappeared after christianity. So its not like something god created. Now its widespread again

Nearly half of young people don't think they are exclusively heterosexual

Does it matter if they were created inherently like that?

Humans weren't created to drive cars. Does that mean driving a car is perversion?

Babies can be born male or female. It all depends on chromosomes. Some babies are born hermaphrodites. Do you think hermaphrodites are CHOOSING to live their life in the way? Like they had a choice to have a penis and vagina so they chose both?

Babies are also born with different characteristics. They will grow up to like some things and hate other things based on how they are. It's why two left wing parents will probably produce a left wing baby.

It's not a choice. Yes, you could choose to repress those thoughts. But that's a choice of repression, not the choice of who you are.

Also, you "believe" that gay is a choice. Believing is that you just made it up.

Also, why the hell do you care? Is it any of your business what they do?

Do you meet your parents and the first thought in your head is "they fucked together"?

No, probably not. So when you see a gay person, why is your first thought "they fucked someone of the same sex"? Makes no sense.

Homosexuality didn't disappear after Christianity came along.

Also, your argument is that God didn't create homosexuality because it existed before Christianity.

Jesus existed before Christianity. Are you saying the God didn't create anything before the existence of Christianity? That the world, that all the people born before it, all the animals, weren't created by God?

Humans and Animals and everything was created by God. But humans choose to rebell against God, like Eve and Adam ate from the forbidden fruit. If humans sin its not because God created it. If someone commits adultery its not that God made him do that. Just like if someone practices gay sex or is gay its not god who did that. And acting on all desires is wrong, same could be said about pedophiles and that God created their desire to fuck children. You expect from pedophiles that they dont act on it if they want it, right? Now you will say thats way diffferent. I dont say its the same, but the desire and acting on it is the same.
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

You're trying to make an important point, one that's even vital for posterity of America's future. And while I am an actively practicing Christian, quoting scripture these days is a sure fire way to instantly make today's youth deaf to any message that follows. That being said, I agree with your message and its historical references.

Without doubt we live today in a world gone mad. A world turned inside out and upside down where media in all forms is convincing us that evil is good and good is evil. It's a message no one wants to hear and most everyone is automatically deaf to. Why would today's youth listen to moral reasoning--religious or otherwise--when everyone they know and everyone around the world beaming into their brains from the internet reassures them daily that anything goes--any behavior no matter how deviant or harmful to self--is justifiable and just plain okay.? Call something taboo and everyone wants to do it.

There's got to be a sea change in the way parents raise their kids in our information age. It's got to begin in popular culture but chances of that are zero in the face of revenues to be made off kids' minds by Hollywood and the video game industry. We need world leaders who cannot be intimidated away by powerful corporate interest groups and lobbyist dollars.

You're right though, history has shown again and again what becomes of societies after their moral values have been upended and redefined. The movement in America today to normalize the perverted will bring her to ruin if some kind of restraints are not put into place. Are we seeing the end of our great country on the near horizon?

You think we live in a world where the media is trying to make people thing evil is good and good is evil?

Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps the Christian churches have been doing that for two thousand years?

Your string of attacks on the OP proves both our points. You guys see an inferno wherever God or Christianity is mentioned. The irony is you assume putting out belief in God will save the world from burning at the stake. Reality is you're just lighting the same fire anew, just kindling the big bad scary belief in God to burn brighter and higher and conflagrate believers to bring back all the time out of mind religious repression you so desperately want to put out. Good luck with that. Keep those buckets of gasoline coming.
 
Christianity and devils and angels are all constructs of man trying to explain life on planet Earth, and the unknown. God is responsible for everything around us including the one universe we know about. Religion created by mere mortals isn't needed to believe in God.
 
Hedonism and "free sexuality" is not liberal or progressive or something that is worth tolerating because you are a good person, like other races or minorities.

It comes from idolatry and the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment was the first step in destroying Christianity through Masonic forces. Homosexuality, BDSM, orgies and adultery, but also lies, cheating, murder comes from idolatry.

Romans 1

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became foolsATand exchanged the glory of the immortal God for imagesmade to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lieand worshiped and served created thingsrather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

The devil is a cool guy then?

Why do you think religions give a damn about people having sex?

God created sex for procreation. There is nothing cool about faggots, perverts and whores etc.
Do we still have to limit ourselves to the missionary position...
 

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