Hebron Jew won't claim home until Palestinians return

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    Maan News Agency: Hebron Jew won't claim home until Palestinians return

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    It is a shame that Israel destroyed the homeland of the Jews.
     
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    Tel Rumeida (in the center of occupied Hebron)...

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    This used to be a nice neighborhood before the settlers turned it into a hell.
     
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    What can you expect? The settlers are a bunch of low life animals.
     
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    Most of the descendants of the old Jewish families of Hebron feel the same as this man does - they are completely opposed to the illegal settlements. The illegal settlers in Hebron today are not even related to these old Jewish Hebronite families - most of them are from Brooklyn, New York.

    Bajayo mentions his grandfather being sheltered by Arab families during the Hebron massacre of 1929. 19 Arab families protected more than 400 Jewish Hebronites from the violence. The Palestinians in the second video (the ones living in the cage in Tel Rumeida) are descended from one of those very same families.
     
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    STATEMENT TO THE U.N. SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON PALESTINE by Chief Rabbi Yosef Tzvi Dushinsky
    July 16, 1947
    Taken from the United Nations Trusteeship Library

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    The ancient right of the People of Israel to the land of Israel.

    In approaching what is commonly called the Palestine problem and in trying to find a just and suitable solution it is imperative that the history of the Holy Land and its correlation with the Jewish people be viewed in their proper perspective. Indeed from the day onwards on which the L-rd said to Abraham: "Arise, walk through the Land, in the length of it and in the breadth, for I will give it unto thee "(Genesis, 13, 17), this country was predestined to be the land of domicile for the People of Israel. However, this predestination, this divine promise, has its basis but in religion, for only loyalty to HIS laws and teachings and fundamental application of that Law in Israel's public and private life will entitle them to the name "People of Israel" and only then can the term "Land of Israel" apply to this land as it is aid: "And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation" (Exodus 19, 6) and further: "For thou art a holy people under the L-rd, thy G-d." (Deuteronomy 7, 6). The interrelation between the land of Israel and the people of Israel rise and falls with the degree and intensity with which they fulfill the Holy Law. Past experience proves that Israel fell easy prey to their enemies whenever they deviated from the path prescribed in the Holy Bible, a fact to which the chapters of the Bible bear eloquent evidence.

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    Unbroken settlement by Jews throughout the ages.

    Hence, even after the dispersion, when Israel were scattered to the four corners of the world to atone for their sins and prepare themselves for the great task of being a holy nation and of being fit once again to live in the land of their promise, Jews loyal to the tradition of their forefathers have not severed the connection with the land even for short intervals. Though unable to fulfill all the commandments while residing abroad, particularly those relating to the soil of this land, they have constantly directed and arranged their prayers with their faces towards the Holy Land in accordance with I King 8, 48: "And pray unto thee towards their land."

    Some Jews endeavoured to visit the Holy Land at least once in their lives and at later periods, when transport and traffic connections became easier, these loyal Jews began to return to the Holy Land to live permanently therein in holiness and purity and literally applied the verse (Psalms 102, 14): "For thy servants take pleasure in her stones and favour the dust thereof."

    The relation between the people of Israel and the land of Israel being an ancient and permanent religious tie, Providence has seen to it that throughout the long history of this land, Jews were never to abandon it entirely. . . .

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    Good neighbourly relations with other sections of the population.

    During no period of the immigration of such orthodox European Jews was any opposition offered by the Arab population. On the contrary, these Jews were welcomed on account of economic benefits and general progress that accrued to the local inhabitants who had no fear whatsoever of being subjugated. It was common knowledge that these Jews came but for the purpose of fulfilling certain religious requirements and they had no difficulty in establishing a mutual trust, and real friendship developed with all sections of the community. That was the time when good neighborly relations existed between Jews and Arabs and in particular Rabbis and eminent scholars who then lead the Jewish Community were greatly esteemed and honoured by all inhabitants.

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    Palestine under the Mandate.

    With the occupation of Palestine by His Britannic Majesty's Forces and after the confirmation of the Mandate over Palestine by the League of Nations, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration of 1917 a new era opened in the history of the Holy Land. We Orthodox Jews whose forefathers promoted the development of the Jewish Yishuv throughout the generations, who for many centuries constituted the most important element of the Yishuv in the Holy Land, were always on the very best of terms with all sections of the Community. We had hoped that the real purpose of the Mandate would be the promotion of a "Home" to which Jews who lived in the Diaspora might be able to return as their Home Land in order to live here in accordance with the Commandments of the Almighty. It was upon the first appearance of the Zionist organization as a political entity, created in and by the spirit of reform, a spirit to which Orthodox Jewry is so utterly opposed that the idea of the foundation of a Jewish state in the Holy Land was first advanced.

    Statement to the U.N. Special Committee on Palestine July 1947
     
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    Looks like Tinmore became a believer. He had earlier said that religion sucks.
     
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    I never said that religion sucks. I said that a country or government based on a religion sucks. What I mean is that the government holds one religion above all others and its laws reflect that difference.

    I have no problem with, say, the US being a "Christian Nation" because the constitution specifies that there are no difference in its laws. The government has no concern what anyone's religion is.

    Similarly, Palestine is an Islamic country. It says so right in its constitution. However, the constitution also states that all people are equal under the law without regard to race, religion, sex, etc. and there are no laws specifying any difference. It also states that all people have the freedom practice their own religion.

    How does this work in practice? The number of Jewish citizens in Palestine is a little less than a thousand. They have the same rights as any Palestinian. Fatah has a Jew in its organization. The Christians are exceptional in business ownership and government participation. The Mayor of Bethlehem is a Christian. The mayor of Ramallah is a Catholic woman. One of the Christian members of the PLC won his seat running in the Change and Reform (Hamas) Party.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWGyRd7Q92s]YouTube - People and Politics | A Woman in the Palestinian Cabinet[/ame]
     
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    The Jews were already living in peace in their homeland. They were opposed to a Jewish state because it would mean generations of death and destruction.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmS7rD_4mPA&feature=related]YouTube - Jews That Lived In Palestine Tell Their Story[/ame]
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzGsI-_8FV4&feature=channel]YouTube - Campus Watch Response - Jews Support Palestinian Resistance to Apartheid[/ame]
     
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    Most Muslims are from Arabia, right, Muhammad?
     

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