Healthcare winners and losers?

[Gunny]

Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?

The bureaucracy the government will build around it.

 

[Gunny]

Do you have any facts to prove what you claim this bill does?

Shoo. Go away. Adults talking here.

 

[Gunny]

It does not prove anything that he claims.

Yes it does.

Shoo. Run along.

 

[Gunny]

It does not prove anything that he claims.

i was a little skeptical of your claim at first, but then i noticed you'd bolded it.

 

[Gunny]

Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.Prove this from the pages of the bill or anywhere.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?

Prove what you claim.

Just Read The Bill.

Health Care Bill - Text of H.R.3590 as Engrossed Amendment Senate: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act -... OpenCongress

Obviously you don't know who you are talking to. From her eyeballs to her brain a LOT of words, context and meanings get lost, deleted and juxtaposed.

 

[Gunny]

It does not prove anything that he claims.

i was a little skeptical of your claim at first, but then i noticed you'd bolded it.

As we all know, anything in bold is true.

Truthmatters is a liar.

Actually, no. Seriously challenged by things like words, meanings and context? Yes.

 

[Gunny]

There once was a poster named Truthmattersnot
Her posts were written by a brain damaged bot
She called everyone a liar
Like a self appointed town cryer
And then just sat back and while her brain continued to rot

 

[Gunny]

Just Read The Bill.

Health Care Bill - Text of H.R.3590 as Engrossed Amendment Senate: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act -... OpenCongress

What he claims is not in there.

Prove it, you LIAR!

You forgot to bold it.

 

[Truthmatters]

Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.Prove this from the pages of the bill or anywhere.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?

Prove what you claim.

will not dead beats recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861602818/deadbeat.html
Under this definition of the word "deadbeats" already get helathcare if they cant afford to.
will not the indigent recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....

They did before this bill.

as for the illegal alien....if they can produce "documentation" that they are legal ....will they not recieve cheap / free helath care....
They already do so in emergency rooms everywhere.
are these not some of the 30 million unisured.....

Yes they are, That is one thing you got right.

 

[Gunny]

Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.Prove this from the pages of the bill or anywhere.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?

Prove what you claim.

will not dead beats recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....

will not the indigent recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....

as for the illegal alien....if they can produce "documentation" that they are legal ....will they not recieve cheap / free helath care....

are these not some of the 30 million unisured.....

Illegal aliens cannot be denied medical care.

 

[manu1959]

Prove what you claim.

will not dead beats recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861602818/deadbeat.html
Under this definition of the word "deadbeats" already get helathcare if they cant afford to.
will not the indigent recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....

They did before this bill.

as for the illegal alien....if they can produce "documentation" that they are legal ....will they not recieve cheap / free helath care....
They already do so in emergency rooms everywhere.
are these not some of the 30 million unisured.....

Yes they are, That is one thing you got right.

they were questions....questions are neither right or wrong....

so if everyone is already taken care of why pass a bill to cover them again....

 

[Gunny]

Prove what you claim.

will not dead beats recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861602818/deadbeat.html
Under this definition of the word "deadbeats" already get helathcare if they cant afford to.
will not the indigent recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....

They did before this bill.

as for the illegal alien....if they can produce "documentation" that they are legal ....will they not recieve cheap / free helath care....
They already do so in emergency rooms everywhere.
are these not some of the 30 million unisured.....

Yes they are, That is one thing you got right.

Everything is the OP is correct. Get a clue.

Shoo ....

 

[Gunny]

will not dead beats recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861602818/deadbeat.html
Under this definition of the word "deadbeats" already get helathcare if they cant afford to.
will not the indigent recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....

They did before this bill.

as for the illegal alien....if they can produce "documentation" that they are legal ....will they not recieve cheap / free helath care....
They already do so in emergency rooms everywhere.
are these not some of the 30 million unisured.....

Yes they are, That is one thing you got right.

they were questions....questions are neither right or wrong....

so if everyone is already taken care of why pass a bill to cover them again....

shellgame

 

[AllieBaba]

Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?

The bureaucracy the government will build around it.

Omg, you read my mind.

I was thinking about how this is going to affect ME, in my job. The thing I'm most dreading is the fact that my health care insurance will be taxed, so I'll have to shell out an extra $200 or more a month from my already MEASLY paycheck.

Also, we're in a salary freeze. I didn't get a raise last year, I won't get one this year. Management have taken even bigger hits....they have forced, non-paid furlough days which effectively reduce their income. That particular bomb missed me....my salary is so low I only have to take 2 forced furlough days in the next year or so, and it ends up not costing me anything.

So I'm thinking crap, I don't think I can get by on $200 a month less..though I know all this is theoretical and not likely (I hope????) to take effect immediately. And I think, what is a growth industry now?

THE IRS. The IRS is a HUGE growth industry. I'm going to fucking apply now. By the time all this shit hits I'll be 2 or 3 steps up with a comfortable retirement account and a hike in pay.

And hopefully I won't get audited if I work in the IRS. Unlike all you unlucky fucktards. You're going to get the shit audited out of you. And the IRS will determine HOW MUCH COVERAGE YOU NEED TO HAVE BEFORE THEY CAN DING YOU. If they don't like you're coverage, guess what? No tax return!

Tax returns are a thing of the past, methinks. They were nice while they lasted.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.Prove this from the pages of the bill or anywhere.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?

Prove what you claim.

It's right there in the Bill truthmatters...now why don't you sit back, clear your schedule on the Cartoon Network for the next week and read the Bill....then, as Obama likes to say...

 

[AllieBaba]

For those looking for work:

IRS Careers

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?

I think its WAYYYYY to early to actually know what the complete fallout of this bill is.

I suspect that everyone other than the government and insurance companies are going to turn out to be the big losers.

That is until covering pre-existing conditions, as required by the new laws, makes the insurance companies fail just like forcing banks to give loans to high risk individuals did to the banking industry. Then the government can "bail them out" and take over health insurance leading to the progressive "dream" of universal single payer health care.

Oh am i stretching or did that actually make total sense in a cynical way?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

and here....in this article from the Cartoon Network (aka MSNBC) there is an article that explains how you and every other American will get screwed by ObamaCare....read it!!!!
Health care gains start soon ? bigger ones later - Health care reform- msnbc.com

 

[Midnight Marauder]

That is until covering pre-existing conditions, as required by the new laws, makes the insurance companies fail

How so?

There's nothing in the bill that regulates how much they can CHARGE for pre-existing conditions, it only requires them to offer it.

 

[Truthmatters]

Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.Prove this from the pages of the bill or anywhere.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?

Prove what you claim.

It's right there in the Bill truthmatters...now why don't you sit back, clear your schedule on the Cartoon Network for the next week and read the Bill....then, as Obama likes to say...

PROVE its in the Bill.

You seem to have read it and know all about where it is so go get the proof.