Healthcare Taxes to Start 2013?

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Sounds like Obama is playing politics to get his healthcare passed with little friction from the public. People need to wake up and get informed on how it's going to work.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT)
Remember the rules of the game. President Obama says health reform must pay for itself, but over 10 years. That opens the door to a back-loaded tax system that generates relatively little today, but big bucks by the end of the decade.
It is simple to design such a plan. Just allow generous tax-free policies today, but freeze tax-exempt premiums at current levels. Over time, medical inflation will do the rest. As the costs of health care (and premiums) rise, that fixed cap will hit more policies.
TaxVox: the Tax Policy Center blog :: Health Care


I read this in the Spokesman Review this morning.

WASHINGTON – Legislation to be outlined next week in the Senate Finance Committee will likely include a new tax on workers with the costliest employer-provided health coverage, officials said Friday, but with implementation delayed until 2013 to minimize any political fallout.

Officials familiar with internal deliberations said the leading option under consideration by Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., the committee chairman, would mean higher taxes for workers whose family coverage costs $15,000 a year or more in premiums paid by employer and employee combined.

President Barack Obama campaigned against taxing health benefits in last year’s campaign, attacking Republican Sen. John McCain in television advertising when McCain proposed it.

But now, Baucus has told reporters, the president appears open to the idea. Another Democratic senator who attended a recent meeting with Obama said the president did not object when the issue was raised, saying he preferred an alternative he outlined last winter. A 2013 effective date would allow Obama to run for re-election before its impact is felt.
Spokesman.com | Tax likely in health care bill | Jun 13, 2009

Sly, very sly, and deceivingly calculating
 
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Sounds like Obama is playing politics to get his healthcare passed with little friction from the public. People need to wake up and get informed on how it's going to work.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT)
Remember the rules of the game. President Obama says health reform must pay for itself, but over 10 years. That opens the door to a back-loaded tax system that generates relatively little today, but big bucks by the end of the decade.
It is simple to design such a plan. Just allow generous tax-free policies today, but freeze tax-exempt premiums at current levels. Over time, medical inflation will do the rest. As the costs of health care (and premiums) rise, that fixed cap will hit more policies.
TaxVox: the Tax Policy Center blog :: Health Care

I read this in the Spokesman Review this morning.
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June 13, 2009 in Nation/World
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Revenue for Obama plan would kick in after ’12 election
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WASHINGTON – Legislation to be outlined next week in the Senate Finance Committee will likely include a new tax on workers with the costliest employer-provided health coverage, officials said Friday, but with implementation delayed until 2013 to minimize any political fallout.

Officials familiar with internal deliberations said the leading option under consideration by Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., the committee chairman, would mean higher taxes for workers whose family coverage costs $15,000 a year or more in premiums paid by employer and employee combined.

But now, Baucus has told reporters, the president appears open to the idea. Another Democratic senator who attended a recent meeting with Obama said the president did not object when the issue was raised, saying he preferred an alternative he outlined last winter. A 2013 effective date would allow Obama to run for re-election before its impact is felt.
Spokesman.com | Tax likely in health care bill | Jun 13, 2009

Sly, very sly, and deceivingly calculating

change we can believe in, until he's swindled us into being re-elected.
 
i think Obama is finding out, like all his predecessors,that running for president, is a lot different then actually BEING president,and being able to pass what ya promised....
 
fuck 2013...we all know the world ends in 2012

Thus the term when speaking about Congress that began under President Bush and continues now, ''They are spending, like there is no tomorrow...!!!'' :eek:

Maybe they know more about the mayan 2012 end than we think?
 
From what i had heard on the 24/7 news/talk shows is that the tax proposed is to limit the tax deduction for employers that provide insurance over and above a $15,000 cap.

employers were giving their executives LUXURY health care insurance policies that cost as much as $100,000-$129,000 and have been able to deduct this full amount, exempting them from any taxes due is what was said on the 24/7.

Under this new tax, the employers can deduct the cost of an average insurance policy that they gave their employees, up to about $15k, but OVER that amount, they can not deduct it and will be taxed on it.

IF this is what Bacus is talking about and this somehow translates to taxing the people that take out these LUXURY $100k policies over $15k, the average price of employer issued family health care insurance policies...then i don't think i have a problem with this....?

care
 
So they do intend to tax benefits while throwing the seniors under the bus.

Is the new dem healthcare slogan really mean JUST DIE ALREADY.
 
Shouldn't make promises you can't keep, but then.... That's what polticians who want to get elected do. A pity so many still believe them.



Obama Is Pressed to Tax Health Benefits
The White House is caught in a battle within its own party over how to finance a comprehensive overhaul of America's health-care system , as key Democrats advocate a tax plan that could require President Obama to break his campaign pledge not to raise taxes on the middle class .
(By Lori Montgomery and Ceci Connolly, The Washington Post)
washingtonpost.com
 

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