Health Outcomes in Canada v US

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    For informational purposes.


    A systematic review of studies comparing health outcomes in Canada and the United States | Guyatt | Array

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    Sadly, No! » Also, You Are More Likely To Be Killed By A Sasquatch There
     
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    More info:

    Hoover Institution - Hoover Digest - Here’s a Second Opinion

    For notes, charts and other stuff:

    http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
     
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    Good find Annie

    Here is an article about the myths of Canadians medicare.

    A Canadian doctor diagnoses U.S. healthcare - Los Angeles Times
     
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    Toro, thanks for the above acknowledgment and let me give it back for this. Problem I have with the LA Times article is there's a lack of data backing it up. What I can see is dicey, as the following shows:

    I've seen little here to make me think the Canadian model works better than the American, more to the point, even Canadians complain about the differences between regions.
     
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    As the man said, vested interests don't want Americans to know the truth about alternative health care systems. A damn shame.
     
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    How about addressing the specifics, which both Toro and I attempted to do?
     
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    Why? You've both already done it.

    What I was reflecting on was the essence of the article, the thrust of its argument.

    There is much disinformation being spread about the issue, you only have to read the crackpot euthanasia threads to see that.

    The disinformation campaign is part of the rearguard action by vested interests. The actual truth about various forms of healthcare isn't being discussed because it's to complex, there are too many variables to make a nice neat argument that the fifteen minute attention span will be able to understand.

    Health care is one of the big political and social issues in any society.

    As a topic it deserves better than to be subjected to calumny. The vested interests have been successful in wrapping it inside ideology so that facts won't count in what passes for public discussion.

    The ideologues of the right will reflexively come out against any form of health care reform without examining the claims being made when any suggested reform is held up to be "socialistic". That's all that has to happen.

    The insurance companies and other vested interests have enlisted the ideologues as footsoldiers in their fight to protect their profits.

    Now please go on with the specifics, I'll read with interest.
     
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    For even more information, to go along with TORO's post

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEXFUbSbg1I&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 1 (of 6)[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpsEAVbCkMM&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - (2 of 6)[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refrYKq9tZQ&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 3 (of 6)[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhiG0dcwN8&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 4 (of 6)[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsp_Jh5EIT0&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 5 (of 6)[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_KCLm9cekU&feature=channel_page]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 6 (of 6)[/ame]
     
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    Canadians complain about everything though. Its what we do.

    Otherwise, despite the problems, Canadians are generally happy with their system. No political party can get elected to office in Canada by saying they will scrap Medicare.
     
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