Health Insurance Mandate

What the fuck are you talking about???
I quoted the damn thing to show him it was not all about extremes, when he used extremes.

Your post makes sense --IF you remove all the words in the next sentence before pandemic...and you know, the whole rest of the response.

duh.

I truly don't understand what the heck sort of mental disability you suffer from, I only hope you get better.

Hey dumbass, you used an extreme first. I only responded in kind. Your kind of mental disability has no cure, it's called ignorance, and you choose to be that way.
Please post to me where I used the extreme first.

And please make sure you include the entire quote, and not clip off portions of my post. Thanks.

Post #17 in this thread, here it is, since you also seem to suffer from short term memory loss in addition to chosen ignorance.
Notice that in your post you also chose to "clip off" what I had posted.
Keep going, you are just making yourself look more stupid.
One word to consider that spoils your "no risk to anybody else" theory:
Pandemic.


It does not even have to be as bad as a pandemic.
Consider that when transmittable illnesses are spread, they do not discriminate. People who are ill with such and have no health insurance, are much more likely to continue working and spread the disease, (and surely less likely to see a doctor)
-- allowing them to transmit the illness to many more people they otherwise would - these can be the check-out counter girl, to your mechanic, to the waitress at your next night out, to all kinds of folks you interact with daily. If it is a nasty strain, those with weaker immune systems are quite vulnerable.

You might think a persons health is something that makes you an island of one, but sorry, it isn't.
--Edit by MM--
This now makes 2 people that have pointed out your use of the extreme first.
 
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Hey dumbass, you used an extreme first. I only responded in kind. Your kind of mental disability has no cure, it's called ignorance, and you choose to be that way.
Please post to me where I used the extreme first.

And please make sure you include the entire quote, and not clip off portions of my post. Thanks.

Post #17 in this thread, here it is, since you also seem to suffer from short term memory loss in addition to chosen ignorance.
Notice that in your post you also chose to "clip off" what I had posted.
Keep going, you are just making yourself look more stupid.
One word to consider that spoils your "no risk to anybody else" theory:
Pandemic.


It does not even have to be as bad as a pandemic.
Consider that when transmittable illnesses are spread, they do not discriminate. People who are ill with such and have no health insurance, are much more likely to continue working and spread the disease, (and surely less likely to see a doctor)
-- allowing them to transmit the illness to many more people they otherwise would - these can be the check-out counter girl, to your mechanic, to the waitress at your next night out, to all kinds of folks you interact with daily. If it is a nasty strain, those with weaker immune systems are quite vulnerable.

You might think a persons health is something that makes you an island of one, but sorry, it isn't.
--Edit by MM--
This now makes 2 people that have pointed out your use of the extreme first.
I don't suffer from any memory loss. I know just what I posted - and if you consider that post using an extreme, I'm afraid you and I are at such far ends of the spectrum, conversation is impossible.

Oh, and here is the #17 post: http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...983-health-insurance-mandate.html#post1509987

so that the viewers at home can see: I Clipped off nothing.

Good day.
 
I find it interesting that the government wants to mandate (read force) everybody to have medical insurance. .

The Welfare/Warfare State Constitution of 1935 clearly states:

Article 69

The federal government has the authority to use the standing armies to force Americans to be charitable.


.:eek:
The christian right, who rules the GOP, won't lift a finger to help their fellow Americans.

So the Obama Administration will use the Delta Force to force the christian right to behave, right?


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This brings up a very interesting question though, fault. If Mountain Man is in an accident and injures paperview, then Mountain Man's car insurance should pay for paperview's necessary healthcare. In which case subrogation occurs. Assuming paperview has health insurance, Mountain Man's car insurance will try to get out of paying for paperview's healthcare needed as a result of the accident. Which sends us to the courts. paperview's health insurance will try to get Mountain Man's insurance to pay. So we are in delay mode determining fault. Which costs money. Probably a lot more money than all the malpractice going on.
 
--Edit by MM--
This now makes 2 people that have pointed out your use of the extreme first.
Yes, you and lunatic who has a vendetta against me.
Paranoid much??

Only when clipping posts.
Hey wait, didn't paperview just complain about that very same action?
Funny how I don't do that, but paperview does, then actually clips the post.
Paranoid and :cuckoo: all in one.
 
Please post to me where I used the extreme first.

And please make sure you include the entire quote, and not clip off portions of my post. Thanks.

Post #17 in this thread, here it is, since you also seem to suffer from short term memory loss in addition to chosen ignorance.
Notice that in your post you also chose to "clip off" what I had posted.
Keep going, you are just making yourself look more stupid.
One word to consider that spoils your "no risk to anybody else" theory:
Pandemic.


It does not even have to be as bad as a pandemic.
Consider that when transmittable illnesses are spread, they do not discriminate. People who are ill with such and have no health insurance, are much more likely to continue working and spread the disease, (and surely less likely to see a doctor)
-- allowing them to transmit the illness to many more people they otherwise would - these can be the check-out counter girl, to your mechanic, to the waitress at your next night out, to all kinds of folks you interact with daily. If it is a nasty strain, those with weaker immune systems are quite vulnerable.

You might think a persons health is something that makes you an island of one, but sorry, it isn't.
--Edit by MM--
This now makes 2 people that have pointed out your use of the extreme first.
I don't suffer from any memory loss. I know just what I posted - and if you consider that post using an extreme, I'm afraid you and I are at such far ends of the spectrum, conversation is impossible.

Oh, and here is the #17 post: http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...983-health-insurance-mandate.html#post1509987

so that the viewers at home can see: I Clipped off nothing.

Good day.

I quoted it in its entirety, dipshit. You used an extreme, Xsited1 pointed it out first, I pointed it out second. Are you that stupid in real life, or do you just play stupid on the internet?
 
This brings up a very interesting question though, fault. If Mountain Man is in an accident and injures paperview, then Mountain Man's car insurance should pay for paperview's necessary healthcare. In which case subrogation occurs. Assuming paperview has health insurance, Mountain Man's car insurance will try to get out of paying for paperview's healthcare needed as a result of the accident. Which sends us to the courts. paperview's health insurance will try to get Mountain Man's insurance to pay. So we are in delay mode determining fault. Which costs money. Probably a lot more money than all the malpractice going on.

Hehe, that's pretty funny.
I'll have to make sure that If I accidentally run into paperview with my car that I should take the next step and run over her again just to make sure she is dead, that way I can't be sued.
 
This is what I don't understand. If people are to be fined $3800 for opting out of insurance, then why shouldn't illegals be included.? Everyone is making a big stink about illegals being included in HR 3200, and I don't see why they shouldn't be. Shouldn't they be fined as well? Am I missing something?

Yes, you can't see it because you don't have your idiot glasses on.


This post was unnecessary and basically insubstantial. And I agree with paperview that you got into the killing and maiming thing first, and your original argument was lame at best.
 
My brother recently lost his job, due to health issues. His health insurance (he worked for the county as a probation supervisor) only paid a small portion of his bills and he forked over lots of money out of pocket. They wouldn't even cover a psychiatrist.

He is still not able to look for work yet, as they cannot seem to figure out all that is wrong. He is on COBRA for the time being but when that runs out, if he still doesn't have a job - - - he will be forced, according to Obama, to purchase insurance or pay a fine.

How's that freedom? It isn't, it's uncle tying the apron strings tighter.


Under the current proposals your brother would not be fined but receive health care until he was up and working and financially able to pay premiums. He would not be fined. I consider COBRA a fine for not continuing to be employed by the same employer. I would want your brother to be covered and receive healthcare. Do you not want this for him as well? This is one of the things the reform aims to fix/help.
 
This is what I don't understand. If people are to be fined $3800 for opting out of insurance, then why shouldn't illegals be included.? Everyone is making a big stink about illegals being included in HR 3200, and I don't see why they shouldn't be. Shouldn't they be fined as well? Am I missing something?

Yes, you can't see it because you don't have your idiot glasses on.


This post was unnecessary and basically insubstantial. And I agree with paperview that you got into the killing and maiming thing first, and your original argument was lame at best.

Yeah, I got into extremes second, not first, read the thread.
 
My brother recently lost his job, due to health issues. His health insurance (he worked for the county as a probation supervisor) only paid a small portion of his bills and he forked over lots of money out of pocket. They wouldn't even cover a psychiatrist.

He is still not able to look for work yet, as they cannot seem to figure out all that is wrong. He is on COBRA for the time being but when that runs out, if he still doesn't have a job - - - he will be forced, according to Obama, to purchase insurance or pay a fine.

How's that freedom? It isn't, it's uncle tying the apron strings tighter.


Under the current proposals your brother would not be fined but receive health care until he was up and working and financially able to pay premiums. He would not be fined. I consider COBRA a fine for not continuing to be employed by the same employer. I would want your brother to be covered and receive healthcare. Do you not want this for him as well? This is one of the things the reform aims to fix/help.



Health care? Yes. Mandated health insurance? No.
 
I find it interesting that the government wants to mandate (read force) everybody to have medical insurance. In Mr Obama's speech the other night, he mentioned that it was no different than making people have automobile insurance. In actuality, it is very different. If I am in an automobile and driving down the road, I am potentially putting everybody else on the road (or sidewalk) at risk. I potentially could run into them with my car and harm them. If I don't have medical insurance, I am not putting anybody else at risk. If I get cancer or break my leg by falling off a ladder, it is of no risk to anybody else. Me getting cancer is entirely different than me driving a car into a random person on a sidewalk. He used a false analogy and the MSM let him get away with it.

Also, the law only requires you to carry insurance to pay for damages you do to OTHERS. It doesn't require you to carry any coverage for yourself and your own property. You still have the choice of hanging ass-out to the wind if you wish to. Is my health insurance going to cover medical bills for people I cough on?
 
[quote;1509666] He figures his purchase of a new car took precedence over spending on health insurance. He said if he has to, he'll work part-time at grocery chain to get insurance. Funny that he could figure that out, without the government.

What's wrong with your child?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?

After 12 years at a government school they are supposed to be willing and ready to demand food stamps and other bureaucratic largesse - they are suppose to understand that their government and neighbors owe him a living.


.:eek:

His parents have clearly been a bad influence.
 
I find it interesting that the government wants to mandate (read force) everybody to have medical insurance. In Mr Obama's speech the other night, he mentioned that it was no different than making people have automobile insurance. In actuality, it is very different. If I am in an automobile and driving down the road, I am potentially putting everybody else on the road (or sidewalk) at risk. I potentially could run into them with my car and harm them. If I don't have medical insurance, I am not putting anybody else at risk. If I get cancer or break my leg by falling off a ladder, it is of no risk to anybody else. Me getting cancer is entirely different than me driving a car into a random person on a sidewalk. He used a false analogy and the MSM let him get away with it.
One word to consider that spoils your "no risk to anybody else" theory:

Pandemic.

It does not even have to be as bad as a pandemic.
Consider that when transmittable illnesses are spread, they do not discriminate. People who are ill with such and have no health insurance, are much more likely to continue working and spread the disease, (and surely less likely to see a doctor)
-- allowing them to transmit the illness to many more people they otherwise would - these can be the check-out counter girl, to your mechanic, to the waitress at your next night out, to all kinds of folks you interact with daily. If it is a nasty strain, those with weaker immune systems are quite vulnerable.

You might think a persons health is something that makes you an island of one, but sorry, it isn't.

Um, we already have mechanisms in place to handle threats to public health. This is not an excuse for mandating a government takeover of the general medical industry.
 
I find it interesting that the government wants to mandate (read force) everybody to have medical insurance. In Mr Obama's speech the other night, he mentioned that it was no different than making people have automobile insurance. In actuality, it is very different. If I am in an automobile and driving down the road, I am potentially putting everybody else on the road (or sidewalk) at risk. I potentially could run into them with my car and harm them. If I don't have medical insurance, I am not putting anybody else at risk. If I get cancer or break my leg by falling off a ladder, it is of no risk to anybody else. Me getting cancer is entirely different than me driving a car into a random person on a sidewalk. He used a false analogy and the MSM let him get away with it.

Also, the law only requires you to carry insurance to pay for damages you do to OTHERS. It doesn't require you to carry any coverage for yourself and your own property. You still have the choice of hanging ass-out to the wind if you wish to. Is my health insurance going to cover medical bills for people I cough on?


There is no: "The Law", it varies from state to state. Some states do require that you are covered.
 
One word to consider that spoils your "no risk to anybody else" theory:

Pandemic.

It does not even have to be as bad as a pandemic.
Consider that when transmittable illnesses are spread, they do not discriminate. People who are ill with such and have no health insurance, are much more likely to continue working and spread the disease, (and surely less likely to see a doctor)
-- allowing them to transmit the illness to many more people they otherwise would - these can be the check-out counter girl, to your mechanic, to the waitress at your next night out, to all kinds of folks you interact with daily. If it is a nasty strain, those with weaker immune systems are quite vulnerable.

You might think a persons health is something that makes you an island of one, but sorry, it isn't.
And a pandemic is a rare thing. Driving a car is a daily occurrence with potentially deadly results every day. The guy at the office that has a cold isn't going to kill or maim me by negligence. Try again.
Minimize: "a cold."

Maximize: "maim or kill."

Cons love to speak in extremes.

Cute.

You mean as opposed to YOU bringing up pandemics in a discussion of the government forcing us all to have general medical insurance? Pot, meet kettle.
 

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