Health Care Reform Idea...

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    I think everybody will agree that the majority of the American population wants to see some form of health care reform. Health insurance is either too expensive, or nearly so, for a great many people in the general population. Hospital cost, doctor's fees, and just about anything associated with medical practice here in America is through the roof in cost. People who don't have insurance are being treated and that cost is being pushed off to patients that do have insurance. For whatever reason, be it unemployed, or the company you work for doesn't provide health insurance, a large group of people don't have health insurance. Many don't have it out of personal choice. Health care in general is a problem in this country. It's been that way for probably 30 years or more.

    Now, along comes the government and wants to change a 30 year old problem almost overnight by trying to push off onto America a bill that few of the Congressmen have even read and there are several versions of the bill being tossed around in Congress - all of which none of the Congressmen have read. We are told that members of their staff have read portions of it. The President is going around trying to sell a bill that hasn't even been completely written, yet alone read by anybody in it's entirety. Members of Congress are all up in arms saying that if you disagree with them you are somehow unAmerican or a Nazi. A bill to revise health care in America is trying to be rammed through Congress just as fast as it can be just so the politicians can say during the 2010 elections that they were responsible for making it happen for America.

    Well, like the refs at a football game, the whistles have been blown and the yellow flags are flying. The support for this health care reform idea is loosing popularity more and more every day. People are leary and distrust Congressmen on this issue and rightfully so. What's the big rush? Health care in this country has been a chronic long-term problem that can't be fixed over night. If congress continues to try, any attempt will fail. Nothing will be solved.

    My idea is simply this. Put this issue on the back burner for a month or so and let everybody take a deep breath and relax a little bit. Then throw everything that has been written to date in terms of HR 3200 into the trash can. Begin the process over but this time think about what you want to accomplish and do it in a reasonable and more acceptable way for the citizens of America. Everybody wants change. The thing that Washington is ignoring is that we want that change to be reasonable and something we can all afford. No secrets. No bait and switch sales tactics. Everything above board and out in the open. Have the Congressmen read the bill so they will know what they are talking about when they try to sell the idea to America. This is how you get reform. Not the way it is being handled now. All that is happening right now is the dividing of America on this issue.
     
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    Ted Kennedy collapsed from his brain tumor in May, 2008. He was steadily working before that on health care reform, and has been since, along with many other people. How is this "overnight"?
     
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    If they've been working on this for that long and this is the best they could come up with maybe they need a new line of work.

    Maybe they could think about what they're doing and come up with something reasonable that can be paid for and something that the American public would like to have.
     
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    Maybe you should read the bill and make some suggestions rather than making blanket statements.
     
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    I would just add that the way to get this process started again would be to appoint a bipartisan panel of respected ex politicians and medical, legal and insurance experts, much in the same spirit as Reagan and Tip O'Neill did in the 1980's to consider SS's problems, to define the problems with our present system we might want to address, affordable access, portability, cost containment, etc., explore all the ways in which we might address those problems, costing out each solution and suggesting how that money might be raised, and then write up suggested solutions and publish the report and only then have Congress begin to debate what to do so that we will all, voters, the WH and Congress, will be better informed and better able to make the right decisions.
     
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    According to the most recent polls, less than 42% of the American public wants it. That's good enough for me.
     
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    suggestion 1 Fix medicare first

    suggestion 2 allow insurance companies to sell health insurance across state lines.
     
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    Both are excellent ideas. Mind running for Congress?
     
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    Here's my idea...

    Either give us the benefits they enjoy or make them use whatever system they push on us. I'd be fine with either 1. :)
     
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    this is all just crazy...we are not gonna push out the old people....the home visits are to help young mothers...do you realize how many children are born to unwed young mothers? they need all the health they can get with new babies...

    it is time for deep reform....the american medical system is just a bad idea....why are bureaucrats (hmo's) telling doctors what they can do with their patients? i mean how fucked up is that? as long as you allow corportate interests to run the medical system...the patient is fucked with or without insurance...i am amused that people with insurance thinks that will save them...no it wont..cause the insurance companies arent gonna pay for any treatment they dont have to pay for...they dont care if someone dies from denial of treatment all they care about is the bottom line....profit or not? is that the way to run a system? most insurance will simply try to stall till the patient dies...nice people right.
     

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