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If the economy picks up it won't matter.
What I find the most amusing is that it seems to be those on medicare that are the most vocal.
If the economy picks up it won't matter.
What I find the most amusing is that it seems to be those on medicare that are the most vocal.
The folks NOW on Medicare have for the most part been paying into Medicare since 1966. They consider it to be a "social contract", and they have honored their obligation to make those payments. Their children are now middle aged, and are concerned that their elders get their benefits, for which they've paid, and are entitled. Some might also be concerned that they'll have to step in financially or be faced with a financial/medical dilemma; this issue tracks with those two groups.
As they consider those issues they begin to consider all the other issues their government is involved in that can and will affect them, and they become increasingly alarmed, and feel they need to be listened to. Ignoring them or ridiculing them makes them more vocal and determined to get the attention of their representatives. Continue being amused Ravi, but it seems to be a misplaced reaction/interpretation. I suspect that reaction is shared by many clueless elitist Democrats.
If the economy picks up it won't matter.
What I find the most amusing is that it seems to be those on medicare that are the most vocal.
What I find the most amusing is that it seems to be those on medicare that are the most vocal
If the economy picks up it won't matter.
What I find the most amusing is that it seems to be those on medicare that are the most vocal.
The folks NOW on Medicare have for the most part been paying into Medicare since 1966. They consider it to be a "social contract", and they have honored their obligation to make those payments. Their children are now middle aged, and are concerned that their elders get their benefits, for which they've paid, and are entitled. Some might also be concerned that they'll have to step in financially or be faced with a financial/medical dilemma; this issue tracks with those two groups.
As they consider those issues they begin to consider all the other issues their government is involved in that can and will affect them, and they become increasingly alarmed, and feel they need to be listened to. Ignoring them or ridiculing them makes them more vocal and determined to get the attention of their representatives. Continue being “amused” Ravi, but it seems to be a misplaced reaction/interpretation. I suspect that reaction is shared by many clueless elitist Democrats.
My point was that the Republicans have coasted for years on let them eat cake. That is their party platform. Pointing out past presidents agendas is not a moot issue.You can say it all you want, it makes you look silly is why i brought it up.Forgive me, I'll never speak his name again.
You seem to believe saying 'bush' is a magic bullett that will slay all criticism of the horrible president we have now.
If only things were so simple.
The truth is people have been building up this anger for years, the endless waste and constant hypocrisy form both political parties and many are fed up with it.
You can keep laughing and yelling 'bush' but that won't help your guy retain power nor will it pass his agenda.
And again, I think the "anger" is manufactured bs by the Republicans and the insurance lobbyists. Most seniors on medicare today are conservatives and none of them will give up their medicare. You've got Michael Steele on national tv declaring he's going to protect medicare.GOOD FOR MICHAEL STEEL. THE SENIORS HAVE EARNED THEIR MEDICARE YOU HAVE NOT.
You are easily snowed, it seems, as they are.
If the economy picks up none of this will matter.
My point was that the Republicans have coasted for years on let them eat cake. That is their party platform. Pointing out past presidents agendas is not a moot issue.You can say it all you want, it makes you look silly is why i brought it up.Forgive me, I'll never speak his name again.
You seem to believe saying 'bush' is a magic bullett that will slay all criticism of the horrible president we have now.
If only things were so simple.
The truth is people have been building up this anger for years, the endless waste and constant hypocrisy form both political parties and many are fed up with it.
You can keep laughing and yelling 'bush' but that won't help your guy retain power nor will it pass his agenda.
And again, I think the "anger" is manufactured bs by the Republicans and the insurance lobbyists. Most seniors on medicare today are conservatives and none of them will give up their medicare. You've got Michael Steele on national tv declaring he's going to protect medicare.
You are easily snowed, it seems, as they are.
If the economy picks up none of this will matter.
Yeah, okay. keep telling yourself that.And again, I think the "anger" is manufactured bs by the Republicans and the insurance lobbyists
Notice none of them are giving it up...and you're deluded if you think seniors don't love them some Medicare. Well, you're deluded anyway.Those on Medicare voice opposition for one really good reason, Medicare is a fine example of how fucked up our government can get with medical insurance, those on Medicare know full well what a "government" option means. It's the private portions that Bush forced us to take that have actually served our need better, while Medicare itself suffers when the government runs out of money.
Notice none of them are giving it up...and you're deluded if you think seniors don't love them some Medicare. Well, you're deluded anyway.Those on Medicare voice opposition for one really good reason, Medicare is a fine example of how fucked up our government can get with medical insurance, those on Medicare know full well what a "government" option means. It's the private portions that Bush forced us to take that have actually served our need better, while Medicare itself suffers when the government runs out of money.
Notice none of them are giving it up...and you're deluded if you think seniors don't love them some Medicare. Well, you're deluded anyway.Those on Medicare voice opposition for one really good reason, Medicare is a fine example of how fucked up our government can get with medical insurance, those on Medicare know full well what a "government" option means. It's the private portions that Bush forced us to take that have actually served our need better, while Medicare itself suffers when the government runs out of money.
Not only is it moot, its also rediculous in this case.My point was that the Republicans have coasted for years on let them eat cake. That is their party platform. Pointing out past presidents agendas is not a moot issue.
You need to think again, I told you from the start the majority of the protestors were democrats and obama voters and that still holds.And again, I think the "anger" is manufactured bs by the Republicans and the insurance lobbyists. Most seniors on medicare today are conservatives and none of them will give up their medicare. You've got Michael Steele on national tv declaring he's going to protect medicare.
How ironic that you claimed I am snowed while you act as a shill for Obama.You are easily snowed, it seems, as they are.
The economy isn't going to 'pick up' and this will matter as the bill is coming due on 30 years of borrowing.If the economy picks up none of this will matter.
I don't give a flying fuck about Obama...I do believe health care should be affordable for all.Notice none of them are giving it up...and you're deluded if you think seniors don't love them some Medicare. Well, you're deluded anyway.Those on Medicare voice opposition for one really good reason, Medicare is a fine example of how fucked up our government can get with medical insurance, those on Medicare know full well what a "government" option means. It's the private portions that Bush forced us to take that have actually served our need better, while Medicare itself suffers when the government runs out of money.
Ravi, with all due respect....you are the one that is deluded. You are deluded with your messiah Obama...I don't understand it and I never will, but make no mistake about it.
