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I voted hard right. Thing is I detest the NDAA, Patriot Act, the two bullshit wars, the butchering of the Constitution...ect. I would consider myself a traditional conservative.
 
Hmmmm... I'm not gonna flog anyone because they woke up YESTERDAY and saw the political carnage. Welcome!! -- here's your doorcards --- go get this petition signed. ANd put down that doobie.

Who are all these "new Libertarians?" I think they are largely fleeing BOTH parties and they -- like MOST OF AMERICA describe themselves as "socially liberal" and "fiscally conservative".. That's good enough for the NEW membership IMHO.

The tea party.

Anyone that voted Republican in 2008 and now calls themselves a Libertarian.

I just don't buy it from most of them. They'll be voting for Romney in November, which a real Libertarian wouldn't do.


You Could not be more Wrong, A Real Libertarian knows that the Libertarian Candidate has 0 Chance of winning, and He also Knows that A Moderate Republican Probably shares his Values on things more Often Than a Liberal Democrat.

Pretty simple Decision if you ask me.

You can say that, but I know where the older Libertarians that I know stand on it.

:dunno:
 
I love the way all the people who labeled themselves as either "moderate" or "none of the above" are hardcore lefties and Obama fluffers.

It just goes to show that lefties can't even be honest with themselves.

all of them?.....so that would include me......you and the Rabbi have negged me in the past....so you guys think im left .....while many Liberals here consider me a Righty and have told me so........and since i have never praised Obama and have said numerous times he is a piss poor leader, that leaves out the fluffer part....to you and guys like you Bri,like your counterpart on the left Dean.....if you dont agree with me,you must be from the other side.....what else could it be?....

Harry you seem like a decent guy as we've debated in other threads, but people calling themselves independant and moderate, almost always are not. I'm not saying you arent, but we have alot of skepticism. Look at Moonglow, he repeats left wing talking points, and never, never criticizes Obama. He attacks conservatives and republicans on EVERY issue, therefore he is a left wing tool. People who think Obama is moderate are insane and FAR FAR FAR left. I thought Bush was a moderate, I'll atleast admit I'm FAR FAR FAR right.
 
The obvious problem is that you liberals all claim you are moderates.

We are moderates. It's you right wingers who have moved so far right, everybody looks liberal in comparison.

Zell Miller moved hard right, too. :cuckoo:

In fact, he said that the democrats moved left of him. Imagine a democrat actually telling it like it really is.
a Democrat like Dean or TM,Chris,Dudly and Frankie would never tell it like it is....they are not allowed....
 
I love the way all the people who labeled themselves as either "moderate" or "none of the above" are hardcore lefties and Obama fluffers.

It just goes to show that lefties can't even be honest with themselves.

all of them?.....so that would include me......you and the Rabbi have negged me in the past....so you guys think im left .....while many Liberals here consider me a Righty and have told me so........and since i have never praised Obama and have said numerous times he is a piss poor leader, that leaves out the fluffer part....to you and guys like you Bri,like your counterpart on the left Dean.....if you dont agree with me,you must be from the other side.....what else could it be?....

Harry you seem like a decent guy as we've debated in other threads, but people calling themselves independant and moderate, almost always are not. I'm not saying you arent, but we have alot of skepticism. Look at Moonglow, he repeats left wing talking points, and never, never criticizes Obama. He attacks conservatives and republicans on EVERY issue, therefore he is a left wing tool. People who think Obama is moderate are insane and FAR FAR FAR left. I thought Bush was a moderate, I'll atleast admit I'm FAR FAR FAR right.

Harry isn't a decent guy....trust me. :D
 
Where do you land? I think this board has a 2-3 v 1 ratio of conservatives to liberals.

Well, I'm a classical liberal and I think most people these days are confused about the political spectrum.

IMO, progressives are really far right fascists...

I mean how can one advocate bans and government intervention while claiming they're "liberal." It's almost oxymoronic......

Republicans and conservatives are more liberal than the alleged "liberals."

I suppose Rinos are just as fascist as the progressives - look at the bans taking place in New York....

Anyone who tries to dictate anothers life, business or outcome is NO fucking liberal -- they're Nazi fascists, socialists and communists. Given the fact that all those ideas are authoritarian - that makes them right wing - not left.
 
I love the way all the people who labeled themselves as either "moderate" or "none of the above" are hardcore lefties and Obama fluffers.

It just goes to show that lefties can't even be honest with themselves.




I noticed that too. It does seem like many People who consistently Hold Left or Far left Opinions Think they are Moderates. Probably why they tend to Label just about anything to even slightly to the right of them as Far right.

I mean come on, These people are as we speak trying to Label any and all attempts to actually address our Entitlement Problems, and Long Term Debt Issues as an Extreme Far right position, and they are trying to Label a Republican that is so liberal as to almost be a Democrat as a Far Right Person.

I mean to me that is reason enough to Vote for Romney. Never mind he Knows more about leading than Obama ever Dreamed of, and More About Economics then just about Anyone Obama listens to, The Man is a Moderate.

This Country is Polarized to hell, A real Moderate like Romney Could help change that. Unlike Obama who was just a pretender, Not a Moderate.
 
Yep liberal chicks are HOT!

Sure... a few.

But you damn sure better get 'em young.

liberal_women.jpg


(Gotta disagree on Monica though, she was just a little plump. Salvageable.)
Monica minus 10 pounds was Kim Kardashion hot. Willy did have good taste. (other than Hillary)

Rosie looks like something Douger would like.....a fat hairy broad to match him...
 
As I figured, the lefties will lie or not vote to skew the results. BDBoop has not voted in her own poll and Moonglow and Mr Clean call themselves moderates.

Are you aware that once I vote, I will no longer be able to see the votes? Obviously you haven't voted either - is it for the same reason?

That is simply not true. One never loses the ability to see the results.

once i voted i could not see who voted for what....
 
Sure... a few.

But you damn sure better get 'em young.

liberal_women.jpg


(Gotta disagree on Monica though, she was just a little plump. Salvageable.)
Monica minus 10 pounds was Kim Kardashion hot. Willy did have good taste. (other than Hillary)

Rosie looks like something Douger would like.....a fat hairy broad to match him...

But isn't she gay? What would he have to be for that to work?

(Actually I hate Rosie's politics but really like her as an actress. And I think that photo is really pretty....mean?)
 
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95% of you motherfuckers don't know the difference between left and right....
 
Where do you land? I think this board has a 2-3 v 1 ratio of conservatives to liberals.

Well, I'm a classical liberal and I think most people these days are confused about the political spectrum.

IMO, progressives are really far right fascists...

I mean how can one advocate bans and government intervention while claiming they're "liberal." It's almost oxymoronic......

Republicans and conservatives are more liberal than the alleged "liberals."

I suppose Rinos are just as fascist as the progressives - look at the bans taking place in New York....

Anyone who tries to dictate anothers life, business or outcome is NO fucking liberal -- they're Nazi fascists, socialists and communists. Given the fact that all those ideas are authoritarian - that makes them right wing - not left.

I get you and agree with you on modern American liberals. They're a joke and Jefferson would kick everyone of them in the balls.
 
I see no point in a poll like this when the definitions mean different things to every person voting.

For instance, I believe we should follow the constitution and have a balanced budget. Does that make me "extreme right?" Do you have to hate the constitution and want massive deficits to be a 'far right liberal then?

What was Bush and the Republican congress when they didn't follow the constitution repeatedly and ran up massive deficits, started wars and grew HC, DoE and overall welfare... What is Obama and Democrats who run up new wars, expand old wars, don't follow the constitution repeatedly and spend even more than Bush?


Moderate should be follow the constitution... Yet today that's "freakin crazy racist righties!!!!" It all makes no sense.
 
As I figured, the lefties will lie or not vote to skew the results. BDBoop has not voted in her own poll and Moonglow and Mr Clean call themselves moderates.

Are you aware that once I vote, I will no longer be able to see the votes? Obviously you haven't voted either - is it for the same reason?

I did not realize that you couldn't see the votes after you voted. So no. I will vote when you and a few other libs do. AND several of the Libs who voted Moderate to skew the results admit their dishonesty.
 

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